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Health Care Case Reaches Supreme Court: The Constitutional Challenge (VIDEO)

Posted: 03/20/2012 8:09 am Updated: 03/20/2012 8:09 am

On Tuesday next week, the Supreme Court will hear oral argument over the constitutionality of the Affordable Care Act's "individual mandate," which requires virtually all Americans to purchase minimum health insurance coverage or pay a tax penalty. The individual mandate is undoubtedly the most controversial and unpopular aspect of President Barack Obama's health care reform.

The two-hour session -- twice the 60 minutes the high court allots for most cases -- promises to be a historic bout between the federal government and the 26 states and several private plaintiffs challenging the mandate as beyond the limits of congressional power. The argument will be all the more momentous because a sitting president's signature legislative achievement is on the line.

In the second of a four-part video series, former Acting Solicitor General Neal Katyal and libertarian legal scholar Randy Barnett, both Georgetown law professors, lay out the opposing sides' constitutional arguments on the individual mandate. Katyal defended the Affordable Care Act in three federal courts of appeals. Barnett was one of the intellectual architects of the constitutional challenge to the mandate and now serves on the legal team for the private plaintiffs before the Supreme Court.

"Congress, under Article I of the Constitution, is given the power to regulate interstate commerce," Katyal notes. "And whatever might be said about the Affordable Care Act, it's obviously dealing with interstate commerce: Health care is almost 18 percent of the gross domestic product."

"If mandates like this are upheld under the commerce clause, from now on they can be enforced up to and including imprisonment," argues Barnett. "That would be a new and dangerous power Congress has never had before."

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit earlier accepted this sort of slippery slope argument. Some legal observers have pinned the government's chances of Supreme Court success on its ability to set forth a limiting principle that distinguishes the mandate to buy health insurance from a parade of hypothetical horribles of unlimited government, such as a requirement that all Americans eat broccoli.

In the video, Katyal describes three limiting principles that he expects the government to offer next week. Barnett parries them with his characteristic verve.

The government and the challengers have both urged the Supreme Court to rule squarely on the mandate's constitutional merits, telling the justices that if the mandate falls so must several other key provisions, if not the entire law. The justices ordered 90 minutes of argument on the latter issue -- whether the law can survive if the individual mandate falls -- for Wednesday, March 28. In addition, the Court will be starting its three-day sitting on Monday, March 26, with another hour and a half over whether to simply throw out the challenges on a technicality -- just in case these politically charged issues prove too hot to handle in the midst of a presidential election.

Video produced by Sara Kenigsberg.

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VPerry24 12:38 PM on 03/20/2012
I read where Americans fly to the Far East for medical procedures, now why is that. I also see that no one but no one wants to trade with us, no Canadians and no Europeans and no South Americans. But most Americans are so brainwashed they can't understand that while we have the most expensive health care we are also not living as long as other nations and the infant deaths are frightening. It is easy to  Read More...
06:45 PM on 03/21/2012
Yeah, let's go back to the status quo. I only hope those Republicans who are anti Obamacare, lose their job, have a pre-existing condition and can't get affordable health care. Hope you and yours die happy.
ftworth texan
To the Right of Rush
05:35 PM on 03/21/2012
Regardless, the next potus will have to get rid of the pieces the scotus can't.

Majority of the country does NOT want OBAMACARE. See huffy polls on, those are liberal and show the difference. Huffy controls Pollster.com

Majority of voters do NOT want this garbage.
Oppose 49.7%
Favor 41.6%

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/obama-job-approval-health

Here is what Obama Care starts costing folks, when and how much. Including source, with Bill and page numbers.
http://www.atr.org/comprehensive-list-obama-tax-hikes-a6433

Obama promised, "No family making less than $250,000 will see "any form of tax increase."

LOL, You believed him. We didn't. We were right about this too.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/promise/515/no-family-making-less-250000-will-see-any-form-tax/

Don't ignore ALL the other Broken promises too, Up to 4 pages of Broken Promises now :
www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/rulings/promise-broken/

Looking forward to Obama explaining this in debate after the SCOTUS "schools" the "constitutional scholar" on what power the feds have.

You believed him BEFORE.
Funny, you have to believe him - AGAIN.
03:53 PM on 03/21/2012
Attention All Healthcare Provider:
The SCOTUS now accepts PayPal.
Please make your donation before the auction... um... case ends.
anne1stoftwo
American Woman
03:47 PM on 03/21/2012
After all, 26 states run by White Christian males certainly don't want those who are poor or unemployed to have health care. As Ron Paul said, let him die. And I am sure that the rich good ole white boys club on Capital Hill want the poor to go away , whether by death or whatever, Be gone! Kind of like they don't want women to have birth control but they damn sure can't have an abortion. And insurance must not pay for the pill, even though insurance, medicare and medicaid pay for Viagra. LOL Typical good ole white boys.
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Eris23Skidoo
Dischordian Keynesian
03:42 PM on 03/21/2012
Imprisonment? Where in the Affordable Care Act does it say that we will imprison people who fail to pay health insurance? It doesn't say that. Throw the case out of court.
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K August
Research Alec Exposed
03:38 PM on 03/22/2012
It doesn't say that in the ACA......that guy was doing the required fear mongering.
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KRY
Trickle down only trickles away!
01:53 PM on 03/21/2012
If the "mandate law" stood up in Romney-care land Massachusetts Then why wouldn't it now ? We have mandated car insurance, There are a lot of "government mandates" . "Regulations" in some forms are "mandated" If this one is tossed out then the Supreme Court just opened the door for on slot of ..... After Citizen United Who knows?
ftworth texan
To the Right of Rush
05:06 PM on 03/21/2012
The feds can not require everyone to purchase something from a private corp.

Auto insurance is STATE LAW - NOT FED. As is Romney Care.

If it holds up, There would be nothing to stop them from adding more garbage like this, hence they do not have the power to do this.

Besides, Majority of the country does NOT want ObamaCare. See huffy polls on, those are liberal and show the difference.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/30/healthplan_n_725503.html
10:15 AM on 03/22/2012
You pay for Social Security whether you want to live past 66 or not. Obama did not want to have people pay private corporations, but the Republicans forced his hand to "compromise". Remember, they shot down his single payer proposal. Furthermore, the vast majority of people, as you say, that do "NOT" want ObamaCare actually are upset that it did not go farther, not the principle behind it. GOP just twists the figures to make it look like the people don't want a desent health care program at all. The shmucks that buy that crud are tricked into going against their own self interest. I'm actually wasting my time telling you this because you are an avowed ABO due to your warped world view that you need to protect for the sake of your fragile ego.
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KRY
Trickle down only trickles away!
10:58 AM on 03/24/2012
I like health care reform !
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07:03 AM on 03/21/2012
People seem to forget why the US government tried to change the health insurance system, and has tried before. It's because the US has by far the most expensive system in the world, but, among developed countries, it's the only system that doesn't cover everybody and it doesn't do very well on international studies that make cross country comparisons of the overall outcomes. The reality and the facts are different than right wing slogans, horror stories, anecdotes and talking points. But the latter always seem to win the day.
Tim The Enchanter
Gary Johnson 2016
09:44 AM on 03/21/2012
It's also the best and most responsive in the world.

Here's how to fix it -

www.redstate.com/john_ashman/2009/08/28/medicalretirement-savings-accounts/
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KRY
Trickle down only trickles away!
01:54 PM on 03/21/2012
PLEASE!
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Eris23Skidoo
Dischordian Keynesian
03:43 PM on 03/21/2012
It is not. The title of "best and most responsive" belongs to Castro's Cuba.
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Phreejazz
04:54 AM on 03/21/2012
News flash: the individual mandate, just like Cap and Trade, is an idea created and supported by conservatives... until the Dems actually got it done, of course
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Ryan Justice
08:57 AM on 03/21/2012
It makes no difference which party or ideology "created" the concept. A government that can order it's citizens to purchase whatever it wants, whenever it wants, is not that of a free nation.
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theerrantsoul
11:22 AM on 03/21/2012
Not according to George Washington.  The Militia Acts of 1792, which he signed into law, includes a mandate for all citizens of fighting age to purchase the kit of a soldier.

"That every citizen, so enrolled and notified, shall, within six months thereafter, provide himself with a good musket or firelock, a sufficient bayonet and belt, two spare flints, and a knapsack, a pouch, with a box therein, to contain not less than twenty four cartridges, suited to the bore of his musket or firelock, each cartridge to contain a proper quantity of powder and ball; or with a good rifle, knapsack, shot-pouch, and powder-horn, twenty balls suited to the bore of his rifle, and a quarter of a pound of powder..."

Heck, we even already have similar policies in our tax code.  Example: a person who rents their home and has no children pays more in taxes than a person with the same income who owns their home and has children.  If that is not unconstitutional, why would the insurance mandate be?
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Eris23Skidoo
Dischordian Keynesian
03:44 PM on 03/21/2012
Then why were republicans united in agreement on the idea until it was suggested by a black man?
Tim The Enchanter
Gary Johnson 2016
09:44 AM on 03/21/2012
How does that make it constitutional?
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Phreejazz
01:57 PM on 03/21/2012
It doesn't, and in fact I think Commerce CLause interpretation has tacked way too far towards granting government power over the last 50+ years. That doesn't change the fact that it's hilarious to watch the same groups that supported a mandate turn around and attack it as soon as the opposing party actually succeeded in getting it done.
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Gary Strawley
03:20 AM on 03/21/2012
We know how this will trun out! They voted against the constitution and compectly against our four fathers!!! There only going to vote for the PLUTOCRACY= THE rich RULE!
THEY HAVE BEEN SOLD TO THE gop and the tea they all want the same thing! THE rich
AGAINST THE POOR!!!
02:55 AM on 03/21/2012
This is getting ridiculous. Just one more step towards universal health care...a.k.a. health care with the efficiency of our post offices and the quality of our public schools. If it weren't for the fact that I'd rather die a slow, painful death than vote for Romney/Gingrich/Santorum/Paul, I would not vote Obama.
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theerrantsoul
11:25 AM on 03/21/2012
Instead of looking at the list of government failures, why don't you also consider their successes?  We can and will do it right.
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KRY
Trickle down only trickles away!
02:11 PM on 03/21/2012
Talking points all from the news letter, my guess was in your e-mail box today. Considering the post office does not pick or choose where it will deliver. I will take the post office over fed-ex any day. Charter/private government funded schools can pick or choose which students they will allow in Again I will take Public School. Unless you have 100% coverage the "insurance corporation" gets to decide over your care not the doctor, but the Insurance person behind a desk pushing papers decides your fate and again I'll take single payer. over "private" because "private" means if you can afford it then you can buy it Hey the "private' can put what ever price tag they want on it.
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Rooster Coburn
Less Gov't + More Responsibility = A Better World
11:06 PM on 03/20/2012
There is very little evidence and no precedent that our Founders ever intended for the federal entity to regulate the internal economies of the states. The "Commerce Clause" was primarily meant to prevent the states from enacting restrictions to trade across their own borders.
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theerrantsoul
11:27 AM on 03/21/2012
And the 2nd Amendment was intended to provide Americans with the tools they'd need to form militias to defend our nation so that we would never need a large standing army.  Look how that turned out.
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Eris23Skidoo
Dischordian Keynesian
05:54 PM on 03/21/2012
How do you know? Can you read minds? The actual commerce clause doesn't say that. The actual commerce clause says that the federal government shall retain the power to regulate interstate and international commerce. In what way is "international" commerce, commerce between the states? The actual commerce clause says that states shall not have a foreign policy or a trade policy that is separate from the United States. From that, how do you get "primarily to prevent states from restricting trade from within their borders"?
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429freckles
Ex Republican Now Devoted Democrat
08:29 PM on 03/20/2012
How come it is that news media on this story ALWAYS FAIL to mention the fact that the mandate is actually not mandated at all BECAUSE there is not any, none, zilch, nada, nothing, no how, no way of enforcement for the mandate. The law states this non-enforcement criteria in writing within the bill. SO, is it really a mandate if it can't be acted upon or enforced? No. I think not.
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Eris23Skidoo
Dischordian Keynesian
05:56 PM on 03/21/2012
And baggers whine that they'll be thrown in prison for refusing to buy insurance. I wonder if they actually believe that malarkey or if it was just something someone on talk radio said so they assume it's true?
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Irmanator
CARRIED INTEREST should be taxed as income
10:20 AM on 03/23/2012
I agree. Lawrence O'Donnell does a good job of spelling that out but I haven't seen anybody else explain that point.
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429freckles
Ex Republican Now Devoted Democrat
08:06 PM on 03/25/2012
I don't understand why everyone doesn't see the mandate as a no mandate at all -- Maybe because it doesn't make good press when in reality..... IT'S GENIUS. A pure stroke of genius. Hopefully, it will be part of the argument before SCOTUS,
08:03 PM on 03/20/2012
The Title X Family Planning Program, Public Law 91-572 “Guaranteed in writing ALL Poor Woman qualified for free BCP even if Non-qualified for Medicaid, and Catholic. It became Law via President Nixon ...It passed the US Senate unanimously.

ACA isn't freedom, it's Government tyranny mandating Hugh Business Expense, Social Dependences, and Government created rationing via defunding future Doctor Reimbursements.

ACA Mandates ALL women, Including millionaires getting BCP free. That guarantees more Government Dependencies, and higher stock prices for pharmaceutical companies. NOT AVAILABILITY

Social Security Insurance required mandatory contributions to receive defined Benefits. ACA MANDATED PROUDLY, 30 million persons will Contribute NOTHING MORE than Dinner Plates and Appetites because its their Civil Rights to have for free what 80% of Americans Already pay for

ACA already is twice the projected cost "CBO report" that Obama and the DNC mandated it would be, even before fully implemented. Telling our Youth/Businesses they will pay Tax Increases and Fines isn't freedom, That's Government Imposed Tyranny

Every American that eats benefits from our roads, Every Neighborhood Business forced paying their Community health care cost, Benefits Only More inept Citizens and Freeloading Neighbors

The American Government doesn't pay anything: All funding comes directly via We the People in taxes. The individual mandates on Health Care only Preserves Irresponsible Behaviors, Single Moms, and Big Government Powers. ALL Businesses past those extra cost onto We the People with higher Gasoline, Food, or Service fees for insurance and product premiums most citizens already pay for
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KRY
Trickle down only trickles away!
02:15 PM on 03/21/2012
I faved this because it sounded the most insane ! Get over it We will have afforable health care for all of our people.
04:08 PM on 03/21/2012
" ,,, I faved this because it sounded the most insane ! Get over it We will have afforable health care for all of our people. ..."


That day will only come when ALL Americans, Including Progressive Minorities, agree they need contribute more than Dinner Plates and appetites toward repayments for services they demanded they needed to preserve their freedoms and health.

I have 10k to the charity of your choice for one disputed fact I posted. The reason I love Law, is progressives can't change the facts. They're required Documentation's are forever.

Often in my lifetime, our Federal Government called me insane, up until the time the Scotus Court ruled I was 100% correct, and they needed to write me a check.

Many Americans want affordable Health Care: Progressive's mandate afforable which translates I deserve it free of all Charges


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57400369-503544/national-debt-has-increased-more-under-obama-than-under-bush/
08:01 PM on 03/20/2012
If it's legal to force citizens to pay taxes, pay into social security, pay into medicare--why isn't it legal to require participation in the health system? I'm tired of paying premiums for those who can't afford or don't with to protect themselves, yet use the health system when needed.
12:37 AM on 03/21/2012
It's quite simple really: taxes, SS, and Medicare are government programs. Healthcare/health insurance, while regulated by the government, are part of the private sector.
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theerrantsoul
11:30 AM on 03/21/2012
That's not really true, though.  An individual's taxes are higher or lower on the basis of whether or not they own a home, whether or not they have kids, what they spend their money on, and so forth.  How is it different to make the same distinction for people with or without health insurance?
barbara jay
my kid says hi
02:30 PM on 03/21/2012
Actually, I worry that the healthcare/health insurance programs will be regulated too loosely, while the insurers will fight the regulations all the way. Obamacare is trying to deal with that right now, but not without pushback.
barbara jay
my kid says hi
02:26 PM on 03/21/2012
Taxes, SocSec, Medicare are normally assessed as a percentage of income. If there's a universal mandate that must also consider the level of income, and that is either government-run or under sufficient government regulation (assuming it involves private insurers), then I'm all for it.
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DANIELISTICALL
HISTORY IS BUT A FABLE AGREED UPON,,NAPOLEON
07:17 PM on 03/20/2012
it has become quite clear that Republicans do not see health care reform as a victory for the American people, but instead as a loss for the insurance companies. That is why Republican Party leaders, from Michelle Bachman to Sarah Palin to John Boehner, are calling for a repeal of these long overdue reforms.
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earthinretrograde
Information Is Power
08:08 PM on 03/20/2012
And yet it is not a loss for the insurance companies. They make out either way.
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Eris23Skidoo
Dischordian Keynesian
06:05 PM on 03/21/2012
In theory that was to prevent them from being the primary impetus for blocking reform. But since they don't even want to give up one penny of profits even if that means killing all the patients, they are holding on to their pennies.