iPhone app iPad app Android phone app Android tablet app More

What Happened 500 Years Ago That Impressed Joe Biden?

Joe Biden

First Posted: 03/20/2012 6:28 pm Updated: 03/21/2012 10:34 am

As most of you know, Vice President Joe Biden made news this week when he offered this praise to the mission to raid Osama bin Laden's Abbotabad hideout: "You can go back 500 years. You cannot find a more audacious plan."

Now, not to diminish the mission to take out bin Laden, but this is clearly going a wee bit overboard. Tim Mak at Politico has done the essential work of grading other historical events for "audacity." One thousand people were surveyed, top 10 answers on the board...name a military expedition more audacious than the capture of bin Laden! (As you might expect, the "D-Day" invasion is the number one answer.)

But as interesting as that is as a historical exercise (or, as some might say, "an historical exercise"), I'm more intrigued by the time frame that Biden uses to frame his remark, "You can go back 500 years." This seems awfully specific to me. Of course, one can argue that Biden was just being arbitrary in suggesting that the bin Laden mission was the greatest and most audacious plan in the past five centuries. But was it arbitrary? In for a penny, in for a pound, right? If your aim is arbitrary, why not say 700 years? Or a thousand years? It's not like anyone is going to check to see what happened in 1511 that might have been the more audacious event.

Well, I checked to see what happened in 1511 that might have been the more audacious event. Here, to my mind, are the contenders:

Portuguese Admiral Alfonso d'Albuquerque captures the city of Malacca.

Seeking to seize control of spice trade routes in the Indian Ocean, the Portuguese Empire dispatched a fleet of warships to attack the city of Malacca, in what is now known as Malaysia. Most of the action involved capturing a bridge. As went that bridge, so went Malacca! D'Albuquerque's first attempt to capture said bridge failed. But that second attempt? Total game changer. The Portuguese cleared the bridge, held it, laid siege to Malacca and finally sacked it on August 24, 1511.

Was it audacious?

Yes. Steven Drakeley, in his History of Indonesia, says that the siege of Malacca was done in "pursuit of [the Portuguese's] audacious objective." However, Portugal's larger goal of controlling the spice trade did not pan out.

The Treaty of Westminster signed.

In 1511, the War of the League of Cambrai had entered its third year, with no end in sight! (It ended in 1516, which means it was still shorter than the war in Afghanistan.) It was one of those great European conflicts where everyone seemed to start out on one side, only to end up on another, probably because it was ultimately very difficult for all these European people to tell each other apart. The year 1511 found King Henry VIII teaming up with Ferdinand II of Aragon in an alliance to defeat the French and the Venetians that was consecrated by the Treaty of Westminster.

Was it audacious?

Not really. The French and Venetians eventually won, and the Treaty of Westminster signed in 1511 suffers somewhat from the fact that there have been, like, six other Treaties of Westminster.

Hernán Cortés and Diego Velázquez conquer Cuba.

Cuba sees famous Spanish conquistador team rollin', they hatin'. But Cortés and Velázquez successfully conquer Cuba. Velázquez ends up governor, Cortés end up as his secretary, and later, the alcade, or magistrate, of Santiago.

Was it audacious?

Sure! But it was somewhat dwarfed by Cortés' solo career as conquistador (He was basically the Paul Simon to Velázquez's Art Garfunkel.), which featured him conquering "the mighty Aztec Empire" with just a "tiny band of adventurers."

Ferdinand II says something racist.

"One black can do the work of four Indians," said Ferdinand II.

Was it audacious?

Actually, in a way it was, because it was sentiments like Ferdinand's that inspired the slave trade, the subjugation of a people, and all of the attendant miseries and immoralities that followed. And it wasn't until centuries later that "complimenting" black people in this fashion would be a career-ending gaffe. (Clearly Ferdinand II should have been putting more effort into winning the War of the League of Cambrai.)

Erasmus publishes In Praise Of Folly.

From Amazon: "Praise of Folly, written to amuse his friend Sir Thomas More, is Erasmus's best-known work. Its dazzling mixture of fantasy and satire is narrated by a personification of Folly, dressed as a jester, who celebrates youth, pleasure, drunkenness and sexual desire, and goes on to lambast human pretensions, foibles and frailties, to mock theologians and monks and to praise the folly' of simple Christian piety. Erasmus's wit, wordplay and wisdom made the book an instant success, but it also attracted what may have been sales-boosting criticism."

Was it audacious?

It seems so. "The author of In Praise of Folly, Desiderius Erasmus Roterodamus (Erasmus of Rotterdam to his friends), perhaps said it best when he wrote, 'Fortune favours the fool, the audacious and those who are not afraid to say the die has been cast. Wisdom, on the contrary, makes men timid.'" So begins Gabriel Gelinas' review of the 2010 Porsche Panamera.

So, which event might Biden have had mind? I'm probably most impressed with the conquest of Cuba, though the inclusion of Erasmus' famous book, celebrating folly, seems oddly appropriate in this instance.

(The least audacious thing that happened in 1511 was the birth of Henry, Duke of Cornwall, who lived for only 53 days and put the marriage of Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon on the road to annulment.)

[Would you like to follow me on Twitter? Because why not?]

FOLLOW HUFFPOST POLITICS
Subscribe to the HuffPost Hill newsletter!
As most of you know, Vice President Joe Biden made news this week when he offered this praise to the mission to raid Osama bin Laden's Abbotabad hideout: "You can go back 500 years. You cannot find a ...
As most of you know, Vice President Joe Biden made news this week when he offered this praise to the mission to raid Osama bin Laden's Abbotabad hideout: "You can go back 500 years. You cannot find a ...
 
 
  • Comments
  • 379
  • Pending Comments
  • 0
  • View FAQ
Comments are closed for this entry
View All
Favorites
Highlights
Recency  | 
Popularity
Page: 1 2 3 4 5  Next ›  Last »  (10 total)
05:27 PM on 03/21/2012
Wow..because in the history of Man..NO ONE HAD an audacious plan in 500 years? Wow..does that exclude Queen Elizabeth and the Golden Era of her 50+ year reign? Because last I checked...that was an era of prosperity partly due to people were able to flourish in an environment that didn't burn you for having religious beliefs. I guess when you are being persecuted..you are generally educating yourself and prospering. Hmmmm. What an audacious idea!
03:07 PM on 03/21/2012
Biden just disrecpted D-Day.
And does anyone think Biden would know what battles happened 500 years ago? If he was on Fox News, a reporter would have asked, "well, what was the second most audacious military action?" That could have ended Biden's career right there.
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
sals
03:05 PM on 03/21/2012
I can't take anything you say Jason, until you clear up "calling mat-su hospital and being told that trig was sarah's baby" because they just don't do that.....and you retract your ignorant defense of her when you don't know anything about her other than what you wanted to believe....and you attack sulliivan for doing a better job than you did on the palins....and he is not finished. You are shameful. You exclude the truth if you think it is detrimental to your "career."
photo
snowballinhell
Humans have a 100% chance of extinction
03:00 PM on 03/21/2012
Biden once plagiarized a statement by politician Neil Kinnock, then Labor leader in Britain:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/2607505/Joe-Biden-plagiarised-Neil-Kinnock-speech.html
Biden said he was the first in his generation to have gone to college. Even while it was true, he wasn't the author of the comment. On the other hand, I don't think his education ever took;-)
03:00 PM on 03/21/2012
The conquest of Mexico was by far the most audacious of the aforementioned. Roughly several hundred adventurers against hundreds of thousands. Had they not had smallpox, mumps and measles on their side, it woulda never happened.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
Romeover
Civilization is for weaklings.
02:55 PM on 03/21/2012
I like Mr. Biden, and I admire his enthusiasm, but you only have to go back to September 11, 2001, for a far more audacious plan.
photo
homer winslow
Truth in Beauty, Beauty in Truth
02:49 PM on 03/21/2012
Amerigo Vespucci kicked the bucket.
02:48 PM on 03/21/2012
As scientists feed hundreds of millions of news articles into a supercomputer, they are working on developing a way to foretell the future in the area of world conflict and revolutions. This new research seems to have predicted the uprising in the Arab world, the so-called Arab spring with pretty good accuracy; however, pretty good is not perfect as is the written Word of God and its presentation of the end time scenario for the events of the future.

Daniel, the ancient Jewish prophet, in Daniel 11 predicted the rise of Ahazerias, the king of the book of Esther, 57 years before he appeared, Daniel 11:2. He also revealed information about Alexander the Great 200 years before he came to power and 360 years before the fact, Daniel prewrote history about Antiochus Epiphanes who would desecrate the Temple which did happen December 25, 168 BC. Daniel's prophecy, which is prewritten history about the Antichrist found in Daniel 7:8, 9:27, and 11:36-45 will also be fulfilled based on past prophecies being fulfilled. Daniel also wrote of world conflict 2500 years ago which would include Syria, Egypt, and Libya the major Arab nations now on the radar screen, Daniel 11:40-44.

We must not put our trust in a supercomputer that actually can fail, but instead put our trust in Bible prophecy, Bible prophecy that will be fulfilled.
photo
NYnotLiberal
Don't crush that Dwarf, hand me the pliers.
03:06 PM on 03/21/2012
Yes, but Daniel didn't have hair plugs, nor did he predict their invention.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
dirtydog1776
rub my soft, furry, objectivist tummy
02:42 PM on 03/21/2012
Biden's ego is almost as big as Obama's.
photo
homer winslow
Truth in Beauty, Beauty in Truth
02:50 PM on 03/21/2012
Your cranium is almost as empty as Rush's.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Y Woodman Brown
live & let live
02:27 PM on 03/21/2012
Come on Jason, get real. 500 years is anything but 'awfully specific'. It's fabulously general...the only phrase more general is a thousand years.

Specific is actually naming an event...not the years. Nobody say, the most audacious plan in 946 years. They say the most audacious plan since the Battle of freakin' Hastings.

Why twist reality? for the sake of a pay-check? man, that's so Republican.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
dirtydog1776
rub my soft, furry, objectivist tummy
02:18 PM on 03/21/2012
It was kind of like a spring picnic when General George Washington crossed the Delaware on Christmas Day Eve and saved the American Revolution. Easy as 1-2-3........

He couldn't have been safer than if he was walking in downtown Detroit at midnight.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
02:55 PM on 03/21/2012
That was one audacious military maneuver.
photo
Ojo Taylor
Music. Lovism. Freethought.
02:13 PM on 03/21/2012
Or perhaps it was just a figure of speech.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
zappbrannigan420
I'm not taking attendance you dork!
02:10 PM on 03/21/2012
In other words, Biden is an idiot. Not surprising really. Whats all that audacious about ordering a team of Seals to kill a man on dialysis?
photo
homer winslow
Truth in Beauty, Beauty in Truth
02:52 PM on 03/21/2012
Th opposite of audacious perhaps, such as allowing him to live for all this time and saying as Bush did that he doesn't matter. Or perhaps attacking a sovereign nation that had nothing to do with 911 and destroying the economy in the process.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
ScoopLV
Conservatives: ALWAYS on the wrong side of history
03:05 PM on 03/21/2012
"I call upon all nations to do everything they can to stop these terrorist killers. Thank you. Now watch this drive... [thwack]."
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
zappbrannigan420
I'm not taking attendance you dork!
03:41 PM on 03/21/2012
Exactly - what Bush did was audacious. We have remember that audacious isn't always a good thing.
photo
hardrain77
R3VOLUTION
02:59 PM on 03/21/2012
Or rather a bunch of Seals storm a safe house, shoot everyone in sight and then realized the guy in the bedroom may not have been bin Laden. Quick, dump the body out to sea!
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
zappbrannigan420
I'm not taking attendance you dork!
03:41 PM on 03/21/2012
Like I said, not audacious.
02:08 PM on 03/21/2012
Get Joe Biden off the ticket and Hilary Clinton on it. You wouldn't even have to campaign for a win.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
dirtydog1776
rub my soft, furry, objectivist tummy
02:21 PM on 03/21/2012
None of them will need to campaign........the rich corporations at their feet, begging for special favors and bailouts, will buy the election for them.

Or we may just have the peace and security of Martial Law as mandated by Our Dear Leader. People won't have to go to the trouble of thinking who they should vote for......he will think for them.
photo
LoneTree
Liberty is more precious than life.
02:27 PM on 03/21/2012
Why would Hillary want to trade her powerful, exciting, and engaging job as Secretary of State (and the power to run the entire State Department) for being the President of the Senate, and otherwise superfluous? I would be stunned to find out that she'd be willing to take that huge step downward and backward.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
02:40 PM on 03/21/2012
3/21/12
2:35pm
NYC

Yeah, right.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
03:00 PM on 03/21/2012
I'd be surprised she would want to be VP.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
verita vincera
Lies only extend suffering
02:08 PM on 03/21/2012
Interesting and I agree with you Jason. However, with Joe Biden I'm not so sure it was arbitrary? 1611 was the construction of the complete English Translation of Scripture under King James (who is a ancestor to my lovely Wife). that was pretty significant considering some hard core Calvinist-Wasp-KJV only still hold that translation today.
But I give kudos to Ann Boleyn. As far as I can see there would be no United States without Ann Boleyn.