Toulouse Shootings: Mohammed Merah's Mother Released, Brother Questioned

By RAPHAEL SATTER and JOHANNA DECORSE 24/03/12 19:32 AP

PARIS — The brother of an Islamist fanatic behind a deadly shooting rampage in France celebrated his martyr-like death and may have helped him, police and a lawyer said Saturday.

Counterterrorism authorities are expected to decide early Sunday whether to file preliminary charges against 30-year-old Abdelkader Merah, who has been under questioning for four days over killings in southern France that stunned the country and refocused attention on the threat of radical Muslim militants.

His brother Mohamed Merah died in a hail of gunfire Thursday after a standoff with police during which he claimed responsibility for attacks that killed three Jewish schoolchildren, a rabbi and three paratroopers. Merah claimed allegiance to al-Qaida and told police he traveled to Afghanistan and Pakistan for training.

In Pakistan, intelligence officials said Saturday that 85 French Muslims have been training with the Taliban in northwest Pakistan and are examining whether Mohamed Merah was part of this group. Merah traveled to Pakistan in 2011 and said he trained with al-Qaida in Waziristan.

The Merahs' mother was in police custody for three days before she was released late Friday.

A lawyer for 55-year-old Zoulhika Aziri said her world had been "turned upside down." "She is devastated," Jean-Yves Gougnaud told reporters in the southern city of Toulouse. "At no time could she have imagined that her son was the one who did it."

Investigators are focused now on older brother Abdelkader Merah, who was flown to Paris for further questioning Saturday along with his girlfriend, Yamina Mesbah.

Police union spokesman Christophe Crepin told reporters that detectives have already gathered evidence to suggest that Abdelkader Merah had "furnished means (and) worked as an accomplice." Crepin refused to comment further.

Abdelkader had already come under police radar. He was questioned several years ago about alleged links to a network sending Toulouse-area youths to Iraq, but no action was brought against him at the time.

His girlfriend's lawyer, Guy Debuissou, said that Abdelkader "celebrated" the death of his brother, who died firing his guns and jumping out a window.

The lawyer said investigators are trying to determine whether Abdelkader could have led Mohamed toward fundamentalism, and whether "Mohamed was the only one to have been under his sway or whether there are other Mohameds out there."

The girlfriend denied any involvement in what happened, Debuissou told The Associated Press. The couple married according to Muslim custom in 2006, but did not undergo the civil ceremony required in France for a marriage to be recognized, the lawyer said.

Mohamed Merah had filmed himself carrying out attacks that began March 11 and killed three Jewish schoolchildren, a rabbi and three French paratroopers with close-range shots to the head, prosecutors say. Another Jewish student and a paratrooper were wounded, and five police officers were injured.

Key questions include how Merah was able to amass an arsenal of weapons – including an Uzi sub-machinegun – and rent a car, despite having no clear source of income.

French intelligence chief Ange Mancini told broadcaster BFM-TV that Merah told police during the siege that he bought the weapons for about (EURO)20,000 ($26,000), using money he acquired through break-ins and holdups.

Mancini said he believed that Merah was telling the truth about that, but suggested that forensic police would be examining the guns for clues as to where Merah got them.

"The weapons, too, will talk," Mancini said.

Gun violence is far rarer in France than in the U.S., where laws are less restrictive. French civilians are banned from owning automatic weapons or handguns, with few exceptions, and licensing is strictly controlled.

That said, hunting is very popular in France and the country has one of the Western world's highest levels of private gun ownership, coming in at No. 12 worldwide, according to the University of Sydney's GunPolicy.org website. The group rates the level of French weapons smuggling as "moderate."

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Masha Macpherson and Johanna Decorse in Toulouse, and Angela Charlton in Paris contributed to this report.

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07:05 AM on 03/26/2012
This lunatic with no known source of income got money to travel all the way to Pakistan and then more money to buy guns, ammo and a motorcycle once he got home. Saudi Arabia, a royal kleptocracy that stays in power by placating it's fanatical clergy, has built thousands of new mosques in Pakistan and finances an even greater number of religious schools where the children learn nothing useful to make a living...just radical Islam. Is there a connection? Are the Saudis also funding these Islamic lunatics in France? The money had to come from somewhere....and I'm not buying the story that he got all this money from robberies.
France had better wake up. The world too.
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marinemomof3
"They lied mom", I know son, I know.
11:58 AM on 03/25/2012
Got me on this one, thought this was to do with Zimmerman, the cold blooded American killer.
I didn't realize that France, being such a socialist country, would pursue killers in a professional manner and TIME FRAME !!
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04:08 PM on 03/25/2012
marinemomof3, your intolerant comment about Zimmerman, a member of Hispanic minority community is rejected as bigoted.
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10:58 AM on 03/25/2012
After his detention in Toulouse on Wednesday, he told police he was "proud" of his brother's actions, police sources say.

...detectives had already gathered evidence to suggest that Abdelkader had helped his brother carry out the shootings.
There was evidence to suggest that Abdelkader Merah had "furnished means [and] worked as an accomplice", said Mr Crepin

Now there' a dude who shouldn't see the outside of prison for the next the 40 years or so.
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GZLives
12:00 PM on 03/25/2012
They ought to arrest every Muslim cleric that's advised his people that its their destiny to kill the Jews who are after all descended from pigs and apes and thus barely human

All who have used this or a variation to poison young minds might as well have pulled the trigger themselves
03:43 PM on 03/25/2012
when taking sides the facts get lost ..it takes 2 to tango.. religion is the scapegoat ..there is little difference between those identified as 'extremists' regardless of which 'belief' system they happen to embrace ..thier game is the same .. ALL those who resort to violence know nothing of the 'deity' they supposedly 'believe' in ... primariy..they are malcontents who resort to 'criminal' acts ..those seeking power have manipulated this situation throughout recorded history ..and all the time people are dumb enough to buy into thier hype and blindly 'follow the leader' ..nothing will change..
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09:21 AM on 03/25/2012
"are other Mohameds out there"

Unfortunately yes on top of all the many others who don't freely think for themselves.

Praise Jesus and Allah Akbar
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10:59 AM on 03/25/2012
Wherever you find followers of Mohammad, you find Mohameds.
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Godstuff
Freely Think For Oneself
12:28 PM on 03/25/2012
This is true, and unfortunately don't freely think for themselves.

Praise Jesus and Allah Akbar
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09:58 PM on 03/24/2012
Did this story really ask are there any more Mohomeds out there?I kind of think so they keep forgetting to break the mold.
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12:18 PM on 03/25/2012
As long as people turn a blind eye to what's being advocated at the mosque there will be an endless line of Toulouse/Mumbai jihadi killers to contend with

These are the brainwashed, poisoned with hate by those they trust.
The world needs to stand up and condemn the hate and supremacy or we will never see the end of this mindless violence much of it "justified" by clerics who use the Holy Quran to do so
08:24 PM on 03/24/2012
Individuals determined to be radical islamists need to be legally deported to their country of origin. How much time and money are we going to spend on surveillance.?
Giopaps
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11:56 PM on 03/24/2012
Many islamists in French have the French nationality and their country of origin is French. That happens if you colonize.
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10:51 AM on 03/25/2012
In your case Giopops, you were born Dutch, but the education is all dropout Southern.
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tallen
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07:31 PM on 03/24/2012
The jihad family...

Abdelkader Merah, elder brother of the 23-year-old gunman
who died in a hail of police gunfire on Thursday, was taken by
car from police barracks in Toulouse, where he was first
interrogated, for transfer to the capital for more questioning,
along with his wife, a judicial source said.

Police found explosives in a car Abdelkader owned, according
to the public prosecutor leading the case.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sns-rt-france-shootingsdetentions-update-3l6e8eo01z-20120324,0,6639708,full.story
05:04 PM on 03/24/2012
Of course the brother is guilty -- he is probably much worse then was his death-loving brother...there is always a group ( relatives, religious leaders ) who get the younger ones to do all the killing while they reap the benefits...
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panem et circenses
04:36 PM on 03/24/2012
Mohammed Merah's brother: I’m proud he executed those 3 kids
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4215262/Im-proud-my-brother-executed-those-3-kids.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=News
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anitaroosevelt
want some Ayn Rand with those fries?
06:03 PM on 03/24/2012
OMG. : (
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tallen
panem et circenses
07:05 PM on 03/24/2012
That tells you what the mindset is of these miscreants.
07:14 PM on 03/24/2012
Distinguish between the quote, the translation and the headline.
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Dario Alvarez
02:25 PM on 03/24/2012
Sure, blame all the family. Someone's got to pay, right?
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12:20 PM on 03/25/2012
I don't blame the family - I blame the mosque which is really the basis for all of this
llwlknsn
Adequate words fail me.
02:04 PM on 03/24/2012
Key questions include how Merah, described by French intelligence boss Ange Mancini as "a little failure from the suburbs," was able to amass an arsenal of weapons – including an Uzi sub-machinegun – and rent a car, despite having no clear source of income.
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Because we are bullied into not asking questions by the Cult. Otherwise it is called racism or religious intolerance. Frankly, I've had it with these people. It is time to start returning them to the lands they came from. His mother knew.

She's probably proud of him. To have martyr in the family for the sake of jihad seems to be quite the honor among these people these days. I don't know of any western society that wants to be at war with Islam. Islam is certainly at war with the rest of the world. We need to start treating them like the enemies they are.
05:25 PM on 03/24/2012
France is in a bad situation. 1/6 th of the population is muslim. Their birthrate is higher than the French. Therefore in about twenty years their elections will be influence by the muslims and I just hope for the French that they will be peaceful as they start to change that society.
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07:30 PM on 03/24/2012
In France, collection of data on religious affiliation is banned. Estimates state about 2%. http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2011/04/05/01016-20110405ARTFIG00599-france-comment-est-evalue-le-nombre-de-musulmans.php

This is even from a right-wing paper.

The birthrate of muslim women is dropping to average French levels:

http://www.saphirnews.com/Taux-de-fecondite-l-immigration-n-a-qu-un-role-limite_a6324.html

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_en_France

Do not tell lies. It's disgusting.
Giopaps
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11:59 PM on 03/24/2012
Their (muslim) birthrate is higher than the French. Sorry, but the majority of muslims in French are French.
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07:04 PM on 03/24/2012
She is certainly not proud of him. Read the article. Cut your disgusting comment.

Tell me about the American gun Cult that produced countless school and mall shootings, and a certain Mr. Zimmerman lately.

The man was French.

It is the west that invaded muslim countries, and wages war for decades there, not the other way around. So to a lot of muslims, it is the west that is at war with the muslim world. You missed the war drums for Iran lately?

So how are 1.3 billion people at war with the rest of the world? You are lying.

Tell me, what percentage of muslims engages in this kind of thing? And then tell me, what percentage of Americans engages in this kind of thing? You'd be amazed.

You are the enemy within. Frankly, I've had it with you.
11:18 AM on 03/25/2012
It is the west that invaded muslim countries, and wages war for decades there, not the other way around.

Have you read your history books?Muslims conquering other countries by the sword of Islam,you do have a selective thinking process.
12:17 PM on 03/24/2012
I would personally put the whole lineage down. Those muslims in france and france is giving them shelter, a way of life and an identity, without persecution. So....anyone even remotely related to rightwing religious nutcases, should be put up against the wall and shot.
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07:14 PM on 03/24/2012
I'd personally put you down.

What is this? American civilization at work?

So anyone even remotely related to McVeigh and a hundred school, mall and general spree killers should be put up against the wall?
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04:20 AM on 03/25/2012
Gosh , seems like that was just what the gunman did . so you are going to show your " superiority by ....doing the same thing ? Kinda makes you his spiritual brother ... by another mother
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11:53 AM on 03/24/2012
The mother refused to urge her son to surrender. That tells a lot about the mindset of the Muslims that have immigrated to Europe. They have a massive problem there and it is of their own making with liberal immigration laws. Unfortunately our own lawmakers would rather garner votes than protect our country putting us on the same path. Now before you jump down my throat this goes for all immigrants coming to this country with questionable backgrounds and all illegal immigrants. We have a process for a reason and it should be strengthened and used.
12:27 PM on 03/24/2012
Your 100% right. I travel to Europe alot on business and they are being overrun by legal and illegal aliens. Everyday commercial airlines fly here bring refugee's to America, many over 80 and a burden on our Health care the moment they arrive. 30, 40, 50, up to 60 on the planes. Many are women with children that can't work, another burden. We too are being overrun and not just from the Mexican border.
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07:12 PM on 03/24/2012
We are not being 'overrun'. Immigration is down to a trickle compared to 20 years ago.

Travelling to Europe on business hardly makes you an expert. It may make you a bigot, I don't know.
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I came, I saw...I had a cup of tea!
01:54 PM on 03/25/2012
I think you're being unkind to the many majority of immigrants who work their finger to the bones to do jobs that many in the West don't wanna do because we live in a culture where we see such jobs as 'beneath' us.
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07:10 PM on 03/24/2012
She hadn't been in contact with him for years and was sure she'd have no influence on him whatsoever. She is disgusted and devastated. She is wondering what she did wrong in bringing him up, because she did not see this coming in any way.

Do not lie.

I live in Europe and I do not have 'a massive problem' with my new fellow citizens. Immigration laws are extremely tough. Thousands of illegal immigrants die every year on the Mediterranean trying to make it across, only to be sent back if they make it alive.

France invaded Algeria in 1830, killing a third of the population in the process. In the War of Independence they killed another million. So having 4 million Algerians emigrating to the 'motherland' is really of their own making and the least they could allow after the genocide they committed.

You talk nonsense, with no knowledge of either Europe or islam.
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08:31 PM on 03/24/2012
First it was not reported she did not have contact with him. i based my response to the information provided. Glad you like your Muslim neighbors,others I've corresponded with in Europe definitely don't share your views. As a very,very liberal person I know who is now in Holland says"It's not Islamophobia if they are really trying to kill you". As for me living in the sticks in the very rural state of Vermont we lost 5 people in a 15 mile radius of my town on 9/11. It was my first real lesson in the Religion of Peace. I hope you embrace the Caliphate when it comes.
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12:03 PM on 03/25/2012
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