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Hutaree Militia Member Tina Stone Says 'We've Lost Everything'

Posted: 03/28/2012 8:11 pm

Hutaree Militia
Most charges against Hutaree militia members were thrown out on March 27 when a judge ruled the federal prosecutors failed to present enough evidence of a crime.

The day after a federal case against seven members of a Michigan militia fell apart, one woman cleared of plotting against the government said the two-year saga ruined her and her family.

Federal agents raided the Hutaree Militia in 2010, arresting members that allegedly conspired to kill police officers as part of a rebellion against the federal government. On Tuesday, a federal judge threw out the most serious charges of conspiring to commit sedition and conspiring to use weapons of mass destruction, saying there was a lack of evidence.

The return to freedom came with a high price, one member said.

"We've lost everything," Tina Stone said in a taped interview with the Associated Press. Stone's husband, David Stone, and stepson Joshua Stone have been behind bars since their arrest exactly two years ago, until U.S. District Judge Victoria Robert dismissed almost all of the charges this week. "We don't have a house to live in. ... Even pictures of my kids as they were growing up -- we've lost them all."

Her husband and stepson return to court Thursday to face the remaining weapons charges that carry a possible 10-year sentence, the Detroit News reported.

Defense attorneys and the prosecution were talking about a possible deal to resolve the remaining charges, the Detroit News said.

The five other defendants have been cleared of all charges. Responding to a request from the defense to toss the case, Roberts ruled that prosecutors didn't present evidence backing their claims of an imminent threat to the state.

The FBI had infiltrated the group with an informant and an undercover agent who collected evidence of extreme anti-government attitudes. There was talk of building pipe bombs and, in one recording, David Stone said he would kill cops.

However, there was never an attack and the defense argued that the inflammatory language was wrongly used against the militia members.

"They had no case to begin with," Tina Stone said in the AP interview. "We never wanted to take over the federal government. We never wanted to kill a police officer. Everything was taken out of context."

One of the newly freed men, Michael Meeks, also told the AP that he was going back to normal life as quickly as possible. He intended to get a new driver's license and return to his job in a recycling plant.

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The day after a federal case against seven members of a Michigan militia fell apart, one woman cleared of plotting against the government said the two-year saga ruined her and her family. Federal ...
The day after a federal case against seven members of a Michigan militia fell apart, one woman cleared of plotting against the government said the two-year saga ruined her and her family. Federal ...
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slarabee
abusus non tollit
03:09 PM on 04/01/2012
One more comment on this. Looking at the booking photos these people look like they do not have one full sized brain between them. Sorry had to be said. :-P
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slarabee
abusus non tollit
09:46 PM on 03/31/2012
Anyone saying these people must be guilty etc... Just remember the feds have a 95%+ conviction rate so if they were not able to prove their case, the evidence does not exist.
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Tawnya Coomer
4th year Criminal Justice Student
08:31 PM on 03/31/2012
Somebody want to explain this to me? Makes no sense what so ever.
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slarabee
abusus non tollit
09:44 PM on 03/31/2012
These people were just typical angry citizens that talked about the need for "revolution". Being from Michigan I can tell you that it is more common than you think. It is partially because the government in Michigan is extreme. Prosecutors routinely over charge crimes and Michigan is rated year after year after year as having the worst Supreme and Court of Appeals in the nation.

At any rate they talked in hyperbolic violent terms however the government was unable to show or prove actual intent to carry out crime(s), which is essential to a charge of conspiracy (and many other crimes) you cannot conspire to do something if you never actually take any steps to do it...

So they were released due to lack of evidence.

In the process of the arrests they found some illegal guns and now the last 2 defendants in jail are reaching a deal (most likely time served) on the weapons charges that stemmed from the arrest.

Hope that helps. :-)
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Tawnya Coomer
4th year Criminal Justice Student
04:47 PM on 04/01/2012
But wouldn't the Sedation and the Espionage Acts come into play here? Or did I miss something in history class and those acts were repealed? I mean they were set in place just for this kind of thing I thought. You said that you can't conspire to do something unless you take steps to do something. So they couldn't prove anything with the "stockpiling"of guns or aside from the illegal purchases they were constitutionally protected? And as I understand you have to have both actus raus and mens rea in order to prove a crime. I get that part. I kind of wish I had followed this from the beginning.
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Fattonecat
whoops !!
11:56 AM on 03/31/2012
Goober gun nuts acting tough, government prosecutors acting tough. When is this ridiculousness going to stop. Chasing tails and phantoms and overreacting to everything......
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The Dude67
Question the official narrative
01:12 PM on 03/30/2012
Hey you guys should just be happy you were picked up prior to the enactment of NDAA.  Had it been in force at the time of your arrest you could have been taken away and we would never know if you were guilty or innocent because you would have no trial.  You'd just disappear.
03:31 PM on 03/30/2012
Agreed. Crazy times.
03:39 PM on 03/30/2012
An over-reach by the feds in their desperate attempt to justify the time and money spent on protecting us. They continue to trample our civil liberties.
10:00 PM on 03/29/2012
The patriot act should be abolished, and the people that wrote it should be exiled to europe where they like that sort of invasion of privacy but arent any safer than we are.
06:03 PM on 03/29/2012
------ Lawyers are smelling "class action lawsuit" like yesterday .... Ruby Ridge ?? ---
05:06 PM on 03/29/2012
A lot of the comments are saying how these people have to be guilty, just remember that when the Fed's come knocking on your door. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty. This is the premier point in our legal system. It seems to have gone out the window with the press trying everyone in the papers. Think about all that's been lost in the last few years. Our right are slowly being taken from us.
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Greg Gorelick
Logic: your friend
05:43 PM on 03/29/2012
Feds won't be "knocking at my door" because I'm not running around the woods with guns like an idiot.
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jgfsmf
Should I be "punished" if I "misbehave"?
06:08 PM on 03/29/2012
Stock piling weapons and calling yourself a militia.
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The Dude67
Question the official narrative
01:14 PM on 03/30/2012
But running around the woods with guns is not illegal.  So you're advocating the arrest of citizens "just cuz"?  You're the perfect 21st Century American.
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jgfsmf
Should I be "punished" if I "misbehave"?
04:21 PM on 03/29/2012
She says all the statements were taken out of context.......there was still enough said to these informants that they could take something out of context. (Dammit, this isn't coming out right) Anyway, they still did wrong so don't cry me a river about losing everything. The still did wrong.
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The Dude67
Question the official narrative
01:15 PM on 03/30/2012
Actually, no they did not "do wrong".  We are informed of this by the fact the charges have been dropped.  They were suspected of doing wrong.
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Greg Gorelick
Logic: your friend
04:36 AM on 03/31/2012
can't read? Shocking.
03:24 PM on 03/30/2012
No they did not. Did you read the article?
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Six Gator
04:02 PM on 03/29/2012
it was all just a joke!...They weren't gonna kill anyone! They are a peaceful militia group (who never owned one mirror, ever!)!....YOU took all that seriously?....c.mon!...c'mon!.....C'MON!....The Authorities just took stuff out of context is all!
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Greg Gorelick
Logic: your friend
04:31 PM on 03/29/2012
haha right...
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Tawnya Coomer
4th year Criminal Justice Student
08:36 PM on 03/31/2012
you used peaceful and militia in the same sentence. HA
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02:46 PM on 03/29/2012
As long as the republican right wing religious elite continue with their tactics of fear and intimidation all in the name of Homeland Security by use of the Patriot Act, groups like this will continue to form.
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FreeSwingingSoul
Searching more into my core
02:29 PM on 03/29/2012
I am totally against militia factions like this, and the attitudes and beliefs of the folks they attract. HOWEVER, if the FBI had a man on the inside and still could not get enough evidence to get convictions, something doesn't smell right here. It does appear, based on the information in this article, that the government was trying to lock up a group of folks simply because the government didn't like the group's rhetoric. That is a bit scary, especially with the freedoms we all lost with the Patriot Act.
03:29 PM on 03/30/2012
Great country we live in. You are right, it does not smell right.
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sasidechick
Math, science, history..unraveling the mystery tha
02:23 PM on 03/29/2012
Gee, there are your frontrunners for the next GOP election in that area.........
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02:01 PM on 03/29/2012
You wanted to play revolutionary, Free Speech has never been Free.
Welcome to the real world.
JStading
"Shall NOT be infringed" means what it says.
03:09 PM on 03/29/2012
So you're for prosecuting people who lawfully voice disapproval of the government?  Scary stuff.
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Greg Gorelick
Logic: your friend
04:32 PM on 03/29/2012
so, if I planned to kill your family, you would call that "lawfully voicing"?
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10:37 PM on 03/29/2012
Chickenhawk, Squawk! Squawk! Squawk!
wsdave
Abusive or Insulting? I won't be responding.
03:33 PM on 03/29/2012
Exactly why we need to lock up all of the OWS folks.
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Greg Gorelick
Logic: your friend
04:32 PM on 03/29/2012
Play the spoons much?
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10:07 PM on 03/29/2012
Citizens demonstrating are not the same as taking up arms against the country.
You are a very confused individual.
wstrvlr
Trust nothing you hear & only part of what you see
02:00 PM on 03/29/2012
As we have seen time after time, the Feds spend unlimited amounts to make a case & you & I only have a limited amount to spend for our defence should we ever face them. There is something not right about this picture.

Remember Senator Ted Stevens? They went after him & spent millions on nothing! They defiled the justice department with under-handed tactics & witholding evidence that was favorable to the senator. They say this is a limited occurance. I say BS! This is just standard operations from the Feds. They are dirty from the top to the bottom.

Do your own investigations & you will come to the SAME conclusions once you shine the light bright enough into the government's standard of justice; Corrupt justice that is! There is no justice with the odds so unbalanced. In this time of history justice is for sale to the highest bidder.