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Kathryn Lehman, Republican Lesbian Who Helped Write DOMA, Is Now Lobbying To Repeal It

Posted: 03/28/2012 12:50 pm Updated: 03/28/2012 1:58 pm

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Kathryn Lehman, who nearly two decades ago helped write the Defense of Marriage Act, is now working to get it repealed.

WASHINGTON -- It has been 16 years since Kathryn Lehman was a Republican Hill staffer working on the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), the federal law that defines marriage as between one man and one woman.

Now Lehman's back on Capitol Hill, in a new capacity: as a lesbian GOP lobbyist trying to repeal the law she helped write.

Things were pretty different in Lehman's world in 1996. She was engaged to a man. Same-sex marriage wasn't legal anywhere. And the public perception of what it meant to be gay wasn't anything like it is now, she says.

"There was nobody married, it wasn’t allowed anywhere," Lehman recalls. "The view of gay people ... it wasn't Ellen [DeGeneres]. It wasn't Neil Patrick Harris. It was kinky sex and women riding around on motorcycles without shirts on. That was sort of the view that the community projected as well."

"It wasn't people that you know, people that you work with, people just like everybody else."

Lehman, now 52, was chief counsel for the House Judiciary Committee's Subcommittee on the Constitution. She says she and her colleagues working on DOMA didn't think it would do much harm. They had two goals in mind: to prevent the federal government from recognizing any marriage between gay couples, and to ensure that states didn't have to recognize gay couples married in other states.

As it turns out, DOMA has hurt gay and lesbian couples in a multitude of ways. It denies medical leave pay for about 43,000 employees who leave to care for a same-sex partner, according to the think tank The Williams Institute of the UCLA School of Law. It denies health care benefits and work/injury compensation for more than 30,000 same-sex spouses of federal employees. It denies about 68,000 veterans with same-sex partners the ability to share their pension and educational benefits. It denies equal treatment in inheritance tax, in filing joint income tax returns, in spousal protections for long-term care under Medicaid and in the process of acquiring a green card for an estimated 26,000 bi-national couples.

None of these things seemed particularly controversial to Lehman since, she says, nobody was even talking about gay marriage as a real possibility 16 years ago. Still, something Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) said during one of the committee hearings on DOMA stuck with her. At the time, Frank was the only openly gay member of Congress.

"I remember Barney Frank saying at the time, 'I don't understand how me being married to my partner hurts your ability to be married,'" she recalls. "And I remember thinking, 'Yeah, I don't either.'"

In the years to come, the arc of Lehman’s career and personal journey would come to mirror how, in many ways, the country itself is evolving in its understanding of gay and lesbian individuals and couples.

Lehman, who says she was “totally in love” with her fiancé despite struggling with the possibility that she might be a lesbian, got married after DOMA passed. She says she was "happily married" until 2001, at which point her husband abruptly wanted out. Lehman says she was devastated, but put herself in therapy and made a commitment to herself to pick up the pieces and start anew.

"I think I'd always been afraid to go to therapy because I thought they were going to say, 'You're gay,' and I didn't really want to hear it," she says. It took her a year just to tell her therapist that she'd once been with a woman. As time went on, she came to terms with her sexuality and eventually embraced it.

In the meantime, Lehman's career was taking off. In 1997, one year after DOMA's passage and eight years after starting her work on the House Judiciary Committee, she became special assistant to House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.). From there she became policy director to House Majority Whip Tom DeLay (R-Texas), and then director of coalitions and outreach for House Speaker Denny Hastert (R-Ill.). In 2003, she took over the top post under House Republican Conference Chairwoman Deborah Pryce (R-Ohio), helping to craft legislative and floor strategies for House Republicans.

At the Republican National Convention in 2004, Lehman ran into someone she had known for years, Julie Conway, a political fundraiser. They had been friends in the past, but Lehman says something shifted for her when she saw Conway this time, and they soon began dating -- and are still partners today. President George W. Bush was also at the convention, of course, and Lehman recalls that as sparks were flying for her, Bush was giving a speech about protecting traditional marriage. At the time, she says, she only "sort of" laughed at the irony.

Lehman, who was and still is staunchly conservative, decided after several months to start telling her peers about her relationship with Conway. Many worked for powerful Republican leaders in Congress. The first friend she told was in Hastert's office; the next was in House Majority Whip Roy Blunt's office. Both were supportive of her relationship. She went on to tell more friends, and none had a negative reaction. In fact, many were more concerned about something else besides her sexual orientation.

"They were like, 'Well, tell us about Julie. Is she a Republican?' I'm like, 'Yes.' And they were like, 'Oh, okay,'" she says. "Honestly, that was it."

Her family was not as supportive. She says the news wasn’t “particularly easy” on her father, a high school choir director in Pittsburgh, Pa., where Lehman grew up. But he was still “happy that I found someone that I was happy with,” she says, and he was proud of her career success. As for Lehman’s mother, Lehman says only that the two are not close. “She knows about Julie and I,” Lehman says. "She always says to say hello to Julie.”

Lehman, who graduated from Oral Roberts University in 1982 and earned her law degree from Catholic University, left Capitol Hill in 2005 to join the law firm Holland & Knight, where she works now. She has about half a dozen clients and lobbies House Republicans on policy issues ranging from energy to health care to appropriations.

Lehman’s turning point on DOMA came when she read a 2009 legal brief by Ted Olson, the Republican attorney who surprised many by helping to bring a lawsuit against Proposition 8, California's constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage. In his brief, Olson, who was formerly President George W. Bush's solicitor general, mapped out various groups of people who are allowed to get married -- people in prison, convicted rapists -- while gay and lesbian couples cannot.

A lot of things in the U.S. that had been done one way "were crap and we got rid of them," Lehman says, thinking back to Olson's brief. "Traditionally, women didn't work outside the home. Traditionally, in the South, black people sat in the back of the bus. It's all part of things traditionally that have changed for the better."

Lehman says she began to think about what had motivated GOP leaders to pass DOMA in the first place. She says she realized "the great threat" they were all worried about never materialized. Asked what they were so afraid would happen if gay people got married, she says she wasn't really sure.

"Maybe we thought it was going to be more married people in ass-less chaps?" she says.

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WASHINGTON -- It has been 16 years since Kathryn Lehman was a Republican Hill staffer working on the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), the federal law that defines marriage as between one man and one wo...
WASHINGTON -- It has been 16 years since Kathryn Lehman was a Republican Hill staffer working on the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), the federal law that defines marriage as between one man and one wo...
 
 
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Coronadoman
04:01 PM on 04/11/2012
When they came for the queers, I helped write the legislation, because they weren't anyone I worked with. When they came for the queers, I didn't speak up, because even though I knew I was queer, I didn't want to go against violent republicanism. When they came for the queers, I guess it was me hurting the queers, even though I am one. Sorry. Still gonna be a hate-filled republican, though.

Hey, America: is that good enough for you? Forgive? Forget? Move On? Tour the country. Apologize to every queer you meet. Chain yourself to the hateful republican headquarters and tell THEM you're sorry. Wear a sandwich board in every city in the U.S. stating how sorry you are. Give 15% of your income forevermore to GLAAD. Add to the list...
02:56 AM on 04/05/2012
"[In 1996], it wasn't people that you know, people that you work with, people just like everybody else." --Umm, yea it was, stupid.
10:40 AM on 04/04/2012
A gay Republican has a lot in common with a black person in the KKK.
06:53 PM on 04/03/2012
That's the problem with attitudes Republicans have on many issues. It's not that there is a threat to their lives or way of life but rather the deep desire to FORCE others to live as they do because they are so arrogant and controlling. And I too wonder how she can still be a Republican when not only do they legislate against people like her but also their base wants to take women's rights back to the dark ages. If it is because she is a fiscal conservative that still is no escuse because Democrats are fiscal conservatives too. We just want to cut different things in the budget thsat they do. We adhere to the principle that a society is judged not by its wealth but rather by how we treat the least and neediest in our society. We understand that only by keeping taxes low for the working poor can we give them a chance to get ahead or at least not fall further behind and give them a chance to save something for retirement. We too know that higher taxes on the wealthy does not hurt the economy but it does provide enough revenue to keep us from accumulating massive debt so long as we can keep military spending down at the same time. George Washington said "In times of peace we must pay off or pay down the debt". He knew that war would increase the debt because it was so costly.
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RockyMissouri
'You must be carefully taught to hate'...
08:09 PM on 04/02/2012
You knew you were gay.....and yet you belonged to a party whose policies hurt other LGBTs..........and continue to belong...?
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RockyMissouri
'You must be carefully taught to hate'...
07:43 PM on 04/02/2012
How can you still be a republican .......?
06:29 PM on 04/03/2012
It's easy. Just be a complete hypocrite. "Do as I say, not as I do."
12:43 PM on 04/02/2012
"She says she and her colleagues working on DOMA didn't think it would do much harm." BS, I don't buy that for a second. You didn't think limiting the rights of the segment of the citizenry wasn't going to "do much harm"? I don't believe ANYONE is that stupid to believe that. Your lying to yourself so you don't feel bad about what you've done to the gay community. BTW, I didn't see any "I'm sorry" or "I was wrong". Just justifications and rationalizations. It's disgusting.
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BeninOakland
Don't tell me you love me. Let me guess.
11:43 AM on 04/05/2012
Well, what they meant was that it wasn't going to do "much harm" to anyone that mattered to them, becuase bigotry and prejudice had already reduced gay people to less than citizens, less than human.

See how easy it is?
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10:04 AM on 04/02/2012
I don't know who is worse, an irrational Christian bigot, or a power hungry, greedy gay Republican. ""There was nobody married, it wasn’t allowed anywhere," Lehman recalls....It was kinky sex and women riding around on motorcycles without shirts on...." I would like to sue her and her Republican colleagues. After DOMA's passage, they helped create an atmosphere of hostility, and it still exists in the most racist, sexist regions of the country. There are direct and indirect connections to the events that are happening in Sanford, Florida and DOMA. (The connections are lousy Republican attitudes) In my opinion, Miss Lehman's actions will never undue the disaster that she help create, and her political party sucks.
02:47 PM on 04/01/2012
The biter bit.
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labman57
science educator
11:27 AM on 04/01/2012
Being a gay or lesbian Republican is an exercise in self-flagellation.
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CheapTrick
Them or Us.
09:40 AM on 03/30/2012
So next year when she jumps the fence again and shacks up with a man, is she going to start doing probono work for NOM?

We can't trust people like her and Ken Mehlman. They will turn on us and sell us out the second that it serves them to do so. People with no spine cannot be trusted.
11:34 AM on 04/01/2012
Is she making more money being gay than she was pretending to be straight?
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CheapTrick
Them or Us.
08:05 PM on 04/01/2012
Probably. And when she writes her weepy tell-all, feel-sorry-for-me-I-was-oppressed book, she'll make bank.
07:02 PM on 04/03/2012
She won't jump back over the fence. My daughter was the same way. She knew when she was a little girl when she had a crush on an older neighbor girl that she was different and as she got older she understood that she was gay. She was with a wonderful man for 9 years and married 3. She was living the life society and her mother's conservative religious family expected her to live. She finally found the courage to admit who she was and live the life she wanted. I being atheist accepted her easily because I was not homophobic and understand too what it is like as a minority to be maligned mostly by Republicans.
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CheapTrick
Them or Us.
10:50 PM on 04/03/2012
uh huh.

And who's Anne Heche married to now?

how about Sinead O'Connor?

and Marianne Faithful?

Now... how many laws that destroy the lives of others did your daughter force on the entire country?
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RepublicanDepression
Of the1% by the1% for the Gerrymandering One% =GOP
01:52 AM on 03/30/2012
"I remember Barney Frank saying at the time, 'I don't understand how me being married to my partner hurts your ability to be married,'" she recalls. "And I remember thinking, 'Yeah, I don't either.'"

LOL!

The GOP (Greedy One Percent) STILL can't answer that simple question!
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RockyMissouri
'You must be carefully taught to hate'...
08:22 PM on 04/02/2012
I love Barney..... He is a wonderful and caring person.....
07:07 PM on 04/03/2012
What is hard to understand as well is the fact that a majority of poor Republicans support the continued record slashing of the taxes on the wealthy as our debt grows. Poor must equal stupid too as they are unable to see that trickle down is a joke and that the wealthy just amass more wealth at the cost of our ever growing debt. If cutting taxes on wealthy were the answer to economic prosperity then why have 10 years of TEMPORARY Bush tax cuts left us where we are? The purchasing power of the masses drives the economy and it continues to shrink!
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RepublicanDepression
Of the1% by the1% for the Gerrymandering One% =GOP
10:47 PM on 04/03/2012
You are right!
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RepublicanDepression
Of the1% by the1% for the Gerrymandering One% =GOP
01:48 AM on 03/30/2012
"Things were pretty different in Lehman's world in 1996. She was engaged to a man"

Are all GOP (Greedy One Percent) secretly gay?
10:54 PM on 03/29/2012
She's wrong. It IS the person next door, the person you work with, the person you know from school or the neighborhood drug store. Just because she was burried so deep in her closet under her dirty laundry doesn't mean gay people weren't really there when she plotted to discriminate against them.
10:40 PM on 03/29/2012
First time post.....Eff Her.
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Shannon Barber
Gay, atheist, liberal and proud of it.
06:09 PM on 03/30/2012
Fanned. and Welcome to Huff Post Gay Voices!