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Ron Paul Backer Jesse Thorsen Reprimanded By Army Reserve For Participating In Political Rally

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RYAN J. FOLEY   03/30/12 04:57 PM ET  AP

IOWA CITY, Iowa — A soldier who went on national television in his military fatigues to endorse Ron Paul's presidential campaign after the Iowa caucuses has been reprimanded but not dismissed from the Army Reserve, a spokeswoman said Friday.

The Army determined that Jesse D. Thorsen violated policies that bar soldiers from participating in political events in their official capacities or while in uniform. Experts say a reprimand may become a problem if Thorsen seeks a promotion or could be used to justify more serious punishment if he gets in trouble again.

U.S. Army Reserve spokeswoman Angel Wallace said a letter of reprimand was placed in Thorsen's official personnel file. Thorsen, who learned of the punishment following a two-month investigation, declined comment when reached by email. His supporters praised the news on a Facebook page dedicated to him, noting it could have been worse.

Thorsen, 28, showed up in his uniform Jan. 3 to Paul campaign's caucus night celebration at a suburban Des Moines hotel ballroom. There, he gave a live interview with CNN saying he supported Paul's plans "when it comes to bringing the soldiers home" because he'd served for a decade in the military during wartime.

CNN cut off the interview after technical difficulties and some Paul supporters accused the network of silencing Thorsen. Paul then called him to the stage so he could finish his thoughts before giving remarks after finishing a close third in Iowa's first-in-the-nation Republican presidential nominating contest.

"We don't need to be picking fights overseas. And I think everybody else knows that too," Thorsen said while on stage. He said being with Paul was "an incredible moment ... like meeting a rock star" and urged supporters to organize to make sure Paul was elected president.

The military's reaction was swift.

The Army Reserve said Thorsen "stands alone in his opinions reading his political affiliation and beliefs" and launched an investigation. The Army soon learned from news reports that Thorsen was convicted in connection with breaking into a home in December 2004 in Fort Myers, Fla., to steal a shotgun and other items.

The statement released Friday by the military didn't address the criminal record of Thorsen, who learned of the reprimand earlier this month.

"If you're an officer, a letter of reprimand is a career-ender. In the lower ranks, you can sometimes overcome it," said Greg Rinckey, a former Army attorney whose Albany, N.Y., law firm often represents soldiers and veterans. "The bigger issue is, you don't go to political rallies in your uniform. It has to be addressed because it's not appropriate."

The statement listed his rank as specialist. Thorsen had earlier identified himself as a corporal, as did the military. The statement said investigators could not find documentation that Thorsen had been promoted to corporal but noted that calling him a specialist wasn't a demotion. Wallace said Thorsen wasn't necessarily misrepresenting himself, adding that he could wear the corporal rank if the paperwork is found.

Thorsen joined the Army National Guard in Florida in 2001, then transferred to Guard units in Illinois and Colorado before joining the Army Reserve. He was deployed to Afghanistan in 2009 and is currently a member of an engineer company based in Des Moines. His unit falls under the 416th Theater Engineer Command out of Darien, Ill.

Paul's campaign did not respond to messages seeking comment Friday.

Thorsen's appearance during the event helped Paul highlight support among active duty soldiers, who had given more money to his campaign than others.

But Rinckey said the candidate and his aides should have known better than to put Thorsen in the spotlight.

Paul's Iowa campaign chairman, Drew Ivers, said in January that campaign officials figured Thorsen knew the military regulations before they put him on stage.

"I think it's an impromptu happening by an enthusiastic supporter who wanted to express his support for Ron Paul's candidacy," he said. "I don't think it's worth anything more than a footnote in the annals of Iowa politics and the national Republican Party primary process."

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10:12 AM on 04/01/2012
probably the most biased presidential race ever
09:05 AM on 03/31/2012
PAUL IS QUITE AWARE OF THE RULES CONCERNING A TROOPER IN UNIFORM PARCIPITATING IN A POLITICAL RALLEY, PAUL USED THIS MAN, SHAME ON HIM.
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GuyCybershy
10:54 AM on 03/31/2012
Those who support our unjustifiable wars of aggression are guilty of far greater crimes. Our men and women in uniform have seen first hand the results our foreign policy folly. They will be heard from one way or another.
10:01 AM on 04/01/2012
So let me see if I get this - Former presidents and current presidents can endorse candidates, along with Senators, Representatives, Governors, and business elites, but if an army soldier endorses a candidate in uniform it is deemed that the entire Army supports that candidate and he is reprimanded? Not only that, but he could get on TV with a shirt that said "I'm a member of the Army Reserves" and that's okay. We already know the military supports Ron Paul by the donation numbers alone, so what's the big deal?
reciprocat
On November 6, 2012...God blessed America
10:44 AM on 04/06/2012
You got it. We don't like the nazi ethic of campaign rallies by uniformed persons. If you don't understand why...well then, i am not surprised.

btw...all you know about his military support is who responded to his calls for donations. I would take a bullet for Obama, but i have yet to donate a cent to him. he doesn't need my money...if he did I would give it, but he doesn't. Paul needs the money. Obama, not so much.
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JohnFromCensornati
Free your mind and your ass will follow.
06:41 AM on 03/31/2012
He's roadki|| on Ron Paul's road to nowhere.
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myjoyy
12:20 AM on 03/31/2012
He'd better hope he's not discharged and doesn't lose his medical benefits. Because if he get's d_eathly ill, we know the GOPTP would say let him die. And Ron Paul, that he so ardently support to the point of jepordazing his job, would just tell him to go find a church to help him out.
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07:10 AM on 03/31/2012
Luckily, as a war-service Veteran, he has lifetime VA benefits.
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Jim Pasterczyk
Banned!
03:13 AM on 04/01/2012
Only for illnesses caused by his service.
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myjoyy
10:49 PM on 03/30/2012
I think he's the same one I saw on TV and wondered how he was getting away with this. If it's him, now I know he didn't.
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l78lancer
Wisdom is the principal thing
10:20 PM on 03/30/2012
"The Army determined that Jesse D. Thorsen violated policies that bar soldiers from participating in political events in their official capacities or while in uniform."
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He violated the uniform code. He made a conscious decision and received punishment.

It doesn't matter what anyone else does, he was wrong. End.
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Robin Ferruggia
Life - for its own sake
08:12 PM on 03/30/2012
It really is inappropriate to go on national TV in army gear because it makes it appear this is an endorsement from the military for Ron Paul. Thorsen is entitled to his beliefs (personally I think supporting Paul has more to do with delusions but delusions are beliefs too) but he's not entitled to present them in a manner that implies that the military endorses Paul. As for CNN, I think it was totally inappropriate for them to have him on national TV anyway. The media is supposed to give equal press in situations like this, and that means if CNN wants to do dumb things like this then they're obligated to also give TV time to members of the military who endorse every other presidential candidate as well.
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PoliSci2008
Independent
05:30 PM on 03/30/2012
And his Commander in Chief, along with Mom in Chief, are constantly using soliders as backdrops for his photo-op rallies.
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l78lancer
Wisdom is the principal thing
10:22 PM on 03/30/2012
That is completely irrelevant. His commander and chief is just that. Comes with the territory.

It's the soldiers fault. He knew the rules. He knew the risks. He suffered the consequences.

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pottedferne
05:06 PM on 03/30/2012
I'm sorry, how do you spell "toopid"?
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03:21 PM on 03/30/2012
A letter of reprimand is basically a warning or can be used against him if or when he gets in more trouble. RON PAUL 2012 and if I was still active I would be more than happy to get another LOR to show my support. If people had a clue they would understand that a lot of people that join the military join beacuse of past trouble or a history of not following the rules. They are the ones that have the guts to do things that most do not so get off your high horses.
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PoliSci2008
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05:32 PM on 03/30/2012
Oh! So that explains why there so much corruption amongst our national security agents. Thank You for that new found opinion.

A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for basic human Freedon!
11:16 PM on 03/30/2012
Wow, an expert on nothing.
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Albert Jenkin
down with the Rebs! And the Dixiecrats
02:11 PM on 03/30/2012
He should have known better. He could have spoken up to say he was reservist who backed Paul, but not in uniform. Because I drive a lot and visit churches on Boy Scout (unpaid volunteer) business, I'm hesitant to put too many political stickers on my car, and I sure don't go to rallies in uniform. When I do put one on the car, it will say OBAMA 2012.
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08politicaljunkie
Save a soldier. Boycott NASCAR
01:46 PM on 03/30/2012
He used his uniform for validation. Not a patriot at all. Neither of them. And he should be denied his benefits.
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Timothy Unrine
Commit to the Lord whatever you do - Prov 16:3
09:41 PM on 03/30/2012
Concur - as a 10 year veteran, I know that all soldiers know that they can not wear their uniforms in a political rally, and he knew he was wrong, just wanted to be in the spotlight.

Now he is, and the spot lights are hot - go figure, now we know why after ten years he is JUST a corporal/specialist and not a sergeant.
01:16 PM on 03/30/2012
He should be let go for making the poor decision to put tattoos on the side of his neck.
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A ScottMiller
01:12 PM on 03/30/2012
This is actually a really big deal. Thorsen broke a grave rule, which is known to one and all. Ron Paul should have known better, and he should be ashamed for his part in it.