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Kentucky vs. Kansas: John Calipari, Bill Self Bring Different Coaching Reputations To Title Game

By JIM LITKE 04/ 2/12 04:18 AM ET AP

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Kentucky head coach John Calipari talks with Kansas head coach Bill Self, right, before a television interview at the NCAA Final Four Sunday, April 1, 2012.

NEW ORLEANS — It feels like we've been here before.

Nothing quite as apocalyptic as UNLV-Duke some two decades earlier, mind you, but plenty of the same storylines.

Good vs. evil. Jedi knight vs. Darth Vader. All that's admirable about college basketball pitted against the forces that would be its ruination.

Except that it's no more true about Kansas vs. Kentucky for the national title Monday night than it was in 1990.

Back then, Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski was adorned with the halo and UNLV's Jerry Tarkanian wore the horns. Cast in those roles this time around are Bill Self and John Calipari.

Yet Self didn't have to think long before answering "yes" when asked whether he'd consider changing places – even though Calipari gets more than his fair share of grief for recruiting "one-and-dones," kids like Kentucky freshmen Anthony Davis and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, whose reading assignments next year will be NBA playbooks as opposed to say "Aeschylus."

"I'd sacrifice if I had to coach Davis and Gilchrist, those guys, for a year or two," Self added, smiling. "That would be a terrible problem to have as a coach."

Of course, Self hasn't done too bad on his own. He's had only two "one-and-dones" over the course of nine seasons at Kansas, compared to the five who have already left the Wildcats in Calipari's two previous seasons, and the three or more players almost certain to follow them after this one. But Self also owns one championship ring to Calipari's none.

That came in 2008 against Memphis, whose coach at the time happened to be Calipari. In what screenwriters like to call "foreshadowing," four of Calipari's recruits would bolt for the exits after just one season during his eight years in charge of the Tigers' program.

"I don't apologize, it's not my rule. ... I don't like the rules," Calipari said.

But just like Tarkanian, who said famously back in the day that "one year of college is better than none," Calipari makes no bones about being ahead of the curve.

"Now what's happened is North Carolina lost three underclassmen, Duke is losing `em, now it's different," he added a moment later. "But that's OK. I mean, I'm going to do what's right for our kids. At the end of the day, I don't apologize for anything we do."

There's something fitting about the game's two winningest programs squaring off one more time, led by guys who, on the surface at least, couldn't be more different.

Self is modest, affable and well-liked by his peers. He's known as a coach who's won even more than the considerable talent on his roster would suggest. Not that he wouldn't like more.

"Cal's a unique guy. I mean that in a favorable way," Self said. "He's raised the bar in some ways about how hard you got to get after it because it's been proven, he's going to get guys. If you're going to compete with him, you got to have those same type of guys.

"Certainly in the three years he's been at Kentucky, even before that at Memphis, nobody's recruited like he has. Nobody's coached his guys better, too, considering how many young kids he has, how he gets them all to play for one purpose."

Calipari is funny and fiercely loyal inside his circle of players and friends, but abrasive sometimes outside of it. The big knock against him is not winning it all even once, despite sending nearly two dozen players to the NBA in the last decade. Having been photographed at the scene of NCAA crimes at both of his first two head-coaching jobs – UMass and Memphis – without being charged in either, reporters rarely give him the benefit of the doubt. Those same people never tire of reminding Calipari how the NCAA "vacated" his accomplishments at those schools – ordering both Final Four appearances and banners, dozens of wins and paychecks to be wiped off the books or handed back.

After enduring the wisecracks for years, Calipari turned it into a running gag.

"Two years got vacated," he told reporters on his 53rd birthday a few months back, "so I'm 51."

Yet he and Self have plenty in common, too, beginning with internships under coach Larry Brown at Kansas.

"He followed me," Calipari said. "When I left, he stepped into that spot at Kansas."

And then a few moments later, Calipari told a story that reminded the rest of us that like Self, he paid his dues, that not everything in his career was always sweetness and light. He noted that "spot" was a lot less glamorous than it sounded, recalling his job interview with Ted Owens, Brown's predecessor at Kansas.

"I said, `What position?' He said, `volunteer.' I said, `how much does that guy make?'"

The answer was nothing. The job was almost worse than the pay. When he wasn't soaking up lessons on the practice court, Calipari was manning the serving line in the team's athletic dining room.

"`Would you like peas or corn?'" he recalled, slipping back into the role. "Peas? Great.' I served the baseball team, basketball team, football team.

"They had steak," Calipari said wistfully. "I never had steak growing up."

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Jim Litke is a national sports columnist for The Associated Press. Write to him at jlitke(at)ap.org and follow him at Twitter.com/JimLitke.

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NEW ORLEANS — It feels like we've been here before. Nothing quite as apocalyptic as UNLV-Duke some two decades earlier, mind you, but plenty of the same storylines.
NEW ORLEANS — It feels like we've been here before. Nothing quite as apocalyptic as UNLV-Duke some two decades earlier, mind you, but plenty of the same storylines.
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05:48 PM on 04/06/2012
You can't force a person to do anything. This is a real life as well as NCAA. A physician, outside of dealing with an unconscious or mentally incapable patient, can only suggest treatment or give options. Calipari can't imprison these kids to play ball for him. If he somehow used his charm and smarts to coerce them into staying, he would accused of taking advantage of them to pad his resume (ie. win championships). It's a losing situation for him either way because he has a dicey reputation.
09:41 PM on 04/02/2012
I wonder how many of these "student athletes" will be students tomorrow?
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05:30 PM on 04/02/2012
Its a shame millions upon millions will change hands and the players do not get a penny.
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03:35 PM on 04/02/2012
They play a game I can hardly follow, but my box allows me to rewind and review. As a kid who played in the forties and fifties, Kentucky v. Kansas is like a time warp... Phog Allen and Adolph Rupp... whoever wins, it will be a treat to watch...
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02:13 PM on 04/02/2012
Bill Self could well have been Bill Self-less in college. I have some photos of him bleeding from his face when he played at Oklahoma State. Th kind of guard who looked to pass more than shoot and gave up his body to make a play. He was treated mercilessly vs. OU, but I guess he is getting the last laugh.
BrwnSknGurl4
What a fool believes a wise man cannot reason away
02:11 PM on 04/02/2012
We should make no excuses for what WE allow these coaches to do with promising young African-American male talent -- talent wasted on basketball dreams, dreams they statistically will likely never achieve, and forfeiting the chance at a decent education and a chance for the white collar existence.

The average career for these one-and-dones is 3 years and unless they're Derrick Rose or LeBron, they don't make the "millions" may of you here discuss. Many "average NBA players" make just over $300K or 400K! Yet, he fills their heads with dreams of the NBA, not caring whether they actually learn anything or finish school, driving them so hard, they win big, Cal gets his playoffs berths, and the student-athlete leaves...only to wash up a few years later, unable to speak the King's English or read a novel and will likely begin hustling or doing drugs. Those few who can turn themselves around eventually just end up coaching at some small high school or community college and still DEGREE-LESS and barely covering their mortgage! At least the degree gives them a chance at a white-collar job and an opportunity to send their children to private school -- allowing more black men to break the cycle of poverty and underachievement in their communities. And, Cal, he's on to the next crop of one-and-dones...and the cycle begins again.... And we stand by and let it happen each and every season!
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01:14 PM on 04/02/2012
Calipari should not get crap about getting the one-and-done athletes....he should get the crap for always running dirty programs. It will happen in KY in time but the kids should not be to blame for the dirty coach. Go Kansas....wow, that sounds strange to say.
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12:11 PM on 04/02/2012
Go Kats !!!!! THIS is what it DO!
11:36 AM on 04/02/2012
"...even though Calipari gets more than his fair share of grief for recruiting "one-and-dones,"

It is what it is. If Calipari didn't subscribe to that philosophy, it wouldn't be associated with him. As with his other jobs, the 'dark clouds' will start hovering in due time.
xzwq
don't let cons forget GWB. they ruined america
11:23 AM on 04/02/2012
I don't much care for Calipari or what he represents. It's a shame these coaches have been put on such a pedestal in college sports, especially when, like Calipari, they couldn't seem to care less about the college aspect, caring only about getting those "one and done" talents for short term gain.
01:15 PM on 04/02/2012
In Calipari's defense, he just recruits the best players out there, as do all the other major programs. He has a players first philosophy, which goes over very well with recruits because they trust Calipari will not pressure them to stay in school if/when they are ready for the NBA. These guys don't need college degrees, not while they can make a great living playing basketball. They're only young and in their athletic prime once, but can get a college degree later if they need or want one. Because of the NBA's eligibility rule, they don't really have any other option in the US than to go to college for a year. None of this is Calipari's doing.

Would you really think better of Calipari if, instead, he advised the best players to stay in school for some meaningless degree, forfeiting potentially millions of dollars, just so he could keep good players longer and give him more wins? Who would that benefit?
xzwq
don't let cons forget GWB. they ruined america
01:38 PM on 04/02/2012
I think Calipari being a players' coach just means he lets them do whatever they want, which includes breaking any NCAA rule that's out there.

I have no problem with the players leaving school. That's their right. I think Calipari just runs a bad program, and will take any talent, no matter how bad a person that talent might be.

It ruined Florida's football program. Same thing could happen under Calipari and one of his teams...
BrwnSknGurl4
What a fool believes a wise man cannot reason away
02:05 PM on 04/02/2012
He does a disservice to these young African-American men because when you look at the stats, few will stay in the NBA long enough to earn the "millions" you tout and then, they are left literally with nothing. The average career for these guys is 3 years and unless they're Derrick Rose or LeBron, they don't make the "millions" you discuss. Many of these "average NBA players" make just over $300K or 400K! That's it. Yet, he fills their heads with dreams of the NBA, not caring whether they actually learn anything or finish school, driving them so hard, they win big, Cal gets his playoffs and Final Four berths, and the student-athlete (oxymoron) leaves...only to wash up a few years later, unable to speak the King's English or read a novel and will likely begin hustling or doing drugs. Those few who can turn themselves around eventually just end up coaching at some small high school or community college and still DEGREE-LESS and barely covering their mortgage! At least the degree gives them a chance at a white-collar job and an opportunity to send their children to private school -- allowing more black men to break the cycle of poverty and underachievement by themselves and their children. But, no, Cal, well, he's on to the next crop of one-and-dones...and the cycle begins again.... And we stand by and let it happen each and every season!
10:29 AM on 04/02/2012
Well, Kentucky will be able to enjoy this championship for a while. The kids can flat out play and they are as good a team as I have seen in college basketball in a long time. I hope two or three years from now when the death penalty kicks in and Kentucky is stripped of the championship that people remember how good they were..
10:54 AM on 04/02/2012
Don't worry. I still remember how great the Fab 5 at Michigan was even though they couldn't quite get it done in the end (no timeouts, CWeb).

The "loans" to the players, however, made me loathe the Michigan Bball program for a while. I don't have the problem with Kentucky. I already kind of loathe them already since they hired Darth Vader (as the article implies).
01:08 PM on 04/02/2012
They have to win it first.