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Mars Water? Odd 'Flowing' Features On Red Planet's Surface Stir Debate

Posted: 04/02/2012 8:43 am Updated: 04/02/2012 8:43 am

By: Leonard David
Published: 04/02/2012 07:34 AM EDT on SPACE.com

Flow-like features on Mars are a source of debate among scientists. While some experts say they are likely produced by liquid water or brine on the Red Planet's surface today, other investigations interpret some of these features as dry mass movements, stirred up by various other processes.

Whatever the cause, these slope streaks — called Recurring Slope Lineae — represent the movement of mass down slopes on the surface of our neighboring planet. They are among the few known examples of current geologic activity on Mars.

Many scientists agree that water likely flowed across ancient Mars. However, whether it exists as a liquid on the planet's surface today is arguable.

Recurring Slope Lineae are dark, narrow features that extend on steep, equator-facing, mid-latitude rocky slopes of Mars. Furthermore, they form and grow during multiple warm seasons, and fade in cold seasons.

The head-scratching phenomenon sparked a lively debate on what's behind the strange slope processes on Mars during last week's 43rd Lunar and Planetary Science Conference in The Woodlands, Texas. [Photos: The Search for Water on Mars]

SPACE.com spoke to several scientists involved in the research, who gave us a glimpse into what may be happening on Mars.

Ongoing drainage system

Conditions are such on present-day Mars that, at certain locations at certain times of year, liquid water should be capable of existing for short amounts of time, according to Jim Head and Jay Dickson of the department of geological sciences at Brown University in Rhode Island.

The best evidence that water currently exists there comes from the recent discovery in the southern mid-latitudes of Recurring Slope Lineae, or RSL for short.

Dickson and Head described their research findings, showing that identical features are found on the equator-facing wall of the South Fork of Upper Wright Valley in the McMurdo Dry Valleys of Antarctica.

"If this is correct, then RSL on Mars may represent the surface expression of a far more significant ongoing drainage system on steep slopes in the mid-latitudes,"  the team said.

Islands of persistence

In research led by Norbert Schörghofer, of the University of Hawaii's Institute for Astronomy in Honolulu, a selected study site on Mars revealed the coming-and-going nature of slope streaks.

"For the first time we see an approximate balance between faded and new streaks," Schörghofer said. "The rate of formation and rate of fading are nearly equal, revealing that the number of slope streaks on the surface of Mars is approximately constant rather than increasing with time. This indicates the streak population is balanced."

The average lifetime of slope streaks, from time of formation until they disappear, and the turnover time of the slope streak population, are estimated to be four decades, Schörghofer said. Slope streaks fade gradually over time, with "islands of persistence," and are not obliterated by planet-encircling dust storms.

Rolling and tumbling

So, what on Mars is actually going on?

A formidable tool in helping to spot and catalog these confounding features is NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, or MRO, now circling the Red Planet.

"This is complicated," said Alfred McEwen, a planetary geologist and director of the Planetary Image Research Laboratory at the University of Arizona in Tucson."Lots of stuff moves down steep slopes on both Earth and Mars." McEwen is principal investigator of the High Resolution Imaging Science Experiment (HiRISE) on the MRO.

On Mars, there are several rolling and tumbling categories, McEwen told SPACE.com:

  • Slope streaks on dusty equatorial slopes. These are fully explained as dust avalanches.
  • Slope streaks associated with the presence — especially defrosting — of carbon dioxide (CO2) frost, so CO2-aided mass wasting explains this. This category includes active gullies. The only distinction is whether or not HiRISE images can resolve the topographic changes.
  • Lineaments associated with dry boulder/debris falls.
  • Recurring Slope Lineae may look superficially similar to the other categories, but form only under very particular environmental conditions, in places where there is no CO2 frost. They grow incrementally, and they recur each summer. So far, only the flow of briny water seems to be able to explain these.

"Folks can invoke water for all of the above if they like water. But given the thermodynamics," McEwenadded, "it is extremely unlikely except, maybe, for the RSL. They all have excellent non-water explanations except the RSL. Maybe the RSL will eventually prove to have a dry explanation as well."

Leonard David has been reporting on the space industry for more than five decades. He is a winner of last year's National Space Club Press Award and a past editor-in-chief of the National Space Society's Ad Astra and Space World magazines. He has written for SPACE.com since 1999.

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Norge
Rolf K. Artist, worker of metal, writer of poems
07:22 AM on 04/09/2012
Sculpture created before the great dieoff left for future posterity.
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kareemachan
watashi ha tororu ga oroka da to omoi masu。
04:10 PM on 04/08/2012
Canals!
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NunyaBus99
06:41 PM on 04/05/2012
i think it is just cool that we are have pictures and video being taken from the Mars surface that scientists can debate the cause of the formation.
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Gas-Bag
There's nothing endearing about perfection.
09:05 PM on 04/05/2012
Exactly. When I was a youngster none of this was possible, we hadn't even left our own atmosphere, truly amazing stuff.
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Forester
Overeducated woods worker.
01:26 PM on 04/04/2012
How will biblical literalists spin life anywhere but on earth? I worry about them.
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rusane
My micro-bio is empty, cold and jaded.
01:13 AM on 04/08/2012
Ignore them. They look up at stars hundreds of thousands of light years away and still claim the universe is 4000 years old. They choose to remain obstinate, it's not worth our time.
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Opus Fideo
Atheist. Social Democrat. Canadian.
11:07 AM on 04/04/2012
Let's just go there in person and find out!
04:49 PM on 04/05/2012
To stand next to a dry gully and say... "OK... physics is right, after all... and there is no flowing water here..."

And you want to spend $600 billion on that and endanger the lives of half a dozen people... because?
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Mr Anonymous
Mumpsimus, I am not entertained!
08:48 PM on 04/05/2012
Technological advances in the aerospace industry that could not only generate new technologies in our personal and commercial lives, but give us teh next new wave of technology that could boost the economy in new wasy and give us a higher quality of life.
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NoiseOfKnowing
It's Supply AND Demand, not Supply OR Demand
09:17 PM on 04/13/2012
Two reasons:
1. We don't know what we'll find
2. Nothing ventured, nothing gained
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rg9rts
Carpe Diem! This aint rehearsal
06:15 AM on 04/04/2012
We probably won't have a definitive answer until we get there and that's not in the foreseeable future, sadly.
12:08 AM on 04/09/2012
Why not? You could, for instance, send a small lander to these locations and investigate on the ground, all without manned missions.
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rg9rts
Carpe Diem! This aint rehearsal
04:25 AM on 04/09/2012
To go where no man has gone before, that's the trekkie in me. Can't really beat the personal experience and damn the virtual stuff, I know the co$t but dreaming cost nothing.
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Anybodyseenthepopos
אני כלום בלעדיהם
12:01 AM on 04/04/2012
There is a definite chance that there is life on Mars. I'm not a bookie and can't give you the Vegas odds but there is a greater chance than people realize.

Methane on Mars:

""Methane is quickly destroyed in the Martian atmosphere in a variety of ways, so our discovery of substantial plumes of methane in the northern hemisphere of Mars in 2003 indicates some ongoing process is releasing the gas," said Dr. Michael Mumma of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md. "At northern mid-summer, methane is released at a rate comparable to that of the massive hydrocarbon seep at Coal Oil Point in Santa Barbara, Calif."
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/mars/news/marsmethane.html

And yes that means that most likely we will be sending some "volunteer" to check it out.
04:51 PM on 04/05/2012
So you want to do something with people that a simple solar Mars flyer can do just as well for less than 1% of the cost, why?
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Anybodyseenthepopos
אני כלום בלעדיהם
03:12 AM on 04/06/2012
Me? I don't want to at all. But I think NASA will for sure. It's just an opinion.
02:18 PM on 04/03/2012
i wish i could get some idea of the scale of this photo.
03:32 PM on 04/03/2012
think satellite.
06:57 PM on 04/03/2012
yeah, not helping. that's a bit of a broad range.
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RobertFromMN
Fiercely secular Luxemburgist
06:01 AM on 04/04/2012
If you look closely in the upper right-hand corner, there's a house with a pool and car in the driveway.
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rg9rts
Carpe Diem! This aint rehearsal
06:05 AM on 04/04/2012
Are you sure? It looks like a streak-er to me.
muckatuck
yeah, well, you know, thats just like uh, your opi
06:12 AM on 04/03/2012
gully foyle is my name and terra is my nation deep space my dwelling place the stars my destination
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whitechicuva
06:30 PM on 04/03/2012
muckatuck, so cool.
muckatuck
yeah, well, you know, thats just like uh, your opi
07:31 PM on 04/03/2012
haha, thanks
02:54 AM on 04/03/2012
I wonder how it would look if they aimed the Hubble telescope at Mars? Can it be focused onto objects within our solar system? If it has that capablity, wouldn't it get close up views of the area? I think it would get better pictures of all the questionable features on Mars, such as the "face".
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crjslick50
03:22 AM on 04/03/2012
Aaah yes. I am sure 'they' could, but the truth is, they don't want us to know. Go on youtube and google pictures of mars and be surprised
03:49 AM on 04/03/2012
They aimed the Hubble at the Moon before so it can definately be done
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KrautMan
Carpe jugulum
12:12 PM on 04/03/2012
Hahaha, yeah, it's always the mysterious 'they'.
10:04 AM on 04/03/2012
The Hubble has taken a number of pictures of Mars. The smallest details it can see are maybe 5 - 10 miles across. Not bad for something that is millions of miles away.

The MRO has a good sized telescope for a camera lens and is in martian orbit. The smallest details it can see are 2 - 3 feet across.

Since Viking took the "Face" picture back in the 1970's, every orbiter since then has taken pictures of it.
02:16 AM on 04/03/2012
If I remember right, there was a small crew that landed, they got chased by what looked like a giant spider till they shot it in the eyes, then when they took a small boat or raft towards a city,
some kind of giant amoeba or one celled creature chased them back to their ship and they everntually got away.
muckatuck
yeah, well, you know, thats just like uh, your opi
06:05 AM on 04/03/2012
according to bradbury at least...
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rg9rts
Carpe Diem! This aint rehearsal
06:08 AM on 04/04/2012
As I recall it was a certain rabbit saving oith from the martian.
02:09 AM on 04/03/2012
Well I don't know about Wind Erection, but maybe it was caused by a Water Erection, or maybe " Mars Quakes. "... But certainly it does NOT look like " Pan Quakes." .. ( ..Mmmm ! .. Pan Quakes !.... YUM ! .... ) ...
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trollinabucket
what can I say today to piss you off?
12:49 PM on 04/03/2012
I had one of those..the wind or the water didn't casue it tho..it was some hot little blonde in a short skirt
02:02 AM on 04/03/2012
We Shouldn't Go to Mars ! ! !

Am I The ONLY ONE that saw, or remembers the 1955, or 56 Movie, " THE ANGRY RED PLANET, " Man that Planet WAS ANGRY ! ! ( .. and FULL of MONSTERS !.. )

I would NOT go there !
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01:51 AM on 04/03/2012
Why haven't we heard from Creation Astronomers about this?
02:20 AM on 04/03/2012
Hey, I think I see some kind of CREATION on MARS through my Tellerscope.... Ma ! !

NOPE, twas Jus a BUG on my Tellerscope.. Ma !

Ok.. Josh, es Time ta Stop yer Astronomating, an, go ta Bed, ya gotta get up in da mornin, and feed da Chickens ! ! ...... Ok Ma..... Night !
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Howard Lee Studstill
01:26 AM on 04/03/2012
It is just dirt. There is no water. Particles of dirt behave like a fluid in large scale earth movements, such as landslides.
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KrautMan
Carpe jugulum
12:14 PM on 04/03/2012
Ah, you settled it. Inform NASA and go get your Nobel.