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News Desk: Our Men In Iran? : The New Yorker

Posted: 04/ 8/2012 1:20 pm

newyorker.com:

It was here that the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) conducted training, beginning in 2005, for members of the Mujahideen-e-Khalq, a dissident Iranian opposition group known in the West as the M.E.K.

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It was here that the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) conducted training, beginning in 2005, for members of the Mujahideen-e-Khalq, a dissident Iranian opposition group known in the West as the...
It was here that the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) conducted training, beginning in 2005, for members of the Mujahideen-e-Khalq, a dissident Iranian opposition group known in the West as the...
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07:57 PM on 04/09/2012
A question for all my leftist friends, if we assume as historian Michael Beschloss does that Mr. Obama is the smartest ever (mmmm?), why is he fumbling about with Iranians, deracinated Persians, and MEK guerrillas? Is following the lead of dumbos like Reagan and Bush or smart operators like Johnson and Nixon?
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Baghooli
Immortals!
04:05 PM on 04/09/2012
This article by Mr. Hersh again confirm that MEK is lying about converting to a peaceful organization since 2003, no wonder why MEK (or whatever front name they have now) is designated as a terrorist group by State Department, where is Justice Department to enforce US laws and prosecute corrupt politicians and MEK members who are operating in USA!
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JCleveland
You think, therefore you think you are
11:49 PM on 04/08/2012
Tiny moment of truth. Your outrage doesn't amount to a can of bean-dip. They are COUNTING om it. Finely tuned, they can keep us fighting each other while they continue to strengthen their grip on reality. And if you think it's bad now, take a gander at the Victorian era. And be galvanized, and understand that without it, we will be cast back there.

Happy Spring Festival!
fuzzychickens
The higher the power, the bigger the lies
11:38 PM on 04/08/2012
So who ordered this?

Can we ship them to Guantanamo indefinitely?

I agree with the previous poster on the tax thing - seriously, why should we be forced to fund terrorists and then be forced to go through naked body scanners to protect us from them?
10:52 PM on 04/08/2012
We have a long history of this sort of thing. The School of the Americas at Fort Benning (now the euphemistically named "Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation") has trained all manner of right wing military and paramilitary psychopaths (colloquially referred to as "right wing death squads") who operated in Central America; and who ran amok and slaughtered thousands of innocent people. They were terrorists, plain and simple.

Anyone who tries to suggest that the U.S. doesn't sleep with terrorists is a l*ar....
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yoyodyne666
Just here to spool you up.
01:05 AM on 04/09/2012
Yes, and they hate us for our prosperity .....right.
08:00 PM on 04/09/2012
I'm prosperous and they all love me...
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lawa
row, row your boat
10:36 PM on 04/08/2012
after reading the new yorker article i want to slam my fingers in a drawer. if every word is true the united states hasmade a terrible mistake. unintended comsequenses landed us in afghanistan, and just maybe in iran. enemies trained and funded by americans wow it blows my mind. fortunately Obama hasnt participated in it. just before he left office bush ended the program.
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kjohney
trust me... I'm liberal.
10:27 PM on 04/08/2012
Good thing I haven't filed my taxes yet. I wouldn't want to be a material supporter of terrorism.
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baba2nde
in search of the meaning of being
10:31 AM on 04/09/2012
It is not terrorism when the US government does it. So, yes, do pay your taxes, don't mess with IRS.
08:03 PM on 04/09/2012
Good God don't pay your taxes...after all your profligate American life style is the reason America is detested, no?
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ProudToBeVeryLiberal
Science is the antidote to the poison of religion
10:08 PM on 04/08/2012
How the CIA created Bin Laden:

http://www.greenleft.org.au/node/24198
fuzzychickens
The higher the power, the bigger the lies
11:34 PM on 04/08/2012
Oh crap, cognitive dissonance!

Stupid truther!

Ah, I feel better now. Back in denial until the next piece of obvious conflicting truth is foisted upon me.
04:47 PM on 04/10/2012
This article is full of lies, it blatantly misquotes its sources and twists the truth into falsehoods. For example, the article claims that Arabs jihadis were trained in the USA by the CIA and it cites John Cooley's book "Unholy Wars" as a source of this, in fact I've read his book and he says that the CIA only trained Pakistani agents and a very few senior Afghan Mujahedin. Cooley states explicitly (on pg 71) that no Arabs were trained in the USA (or elsewhere) by the CIA. Yet the article cites Cooley's book as stating the opposite. What pure leftwing propaganda.
IN NO WAY DID THE CIA HAVE CONTACT WITH, TRAIN, FUND, ARM, OR OTHERWISE DIRECTLY SUPPORT the arab jihadists (including OBL) in the 1979-1992 afghanistan war. Any informed adult should know this. CIA support for arab jihadists would have been impossible, as congress was too worried that arabs would turn around and attack Israel.
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tacevad
American SS Card Carrying Socialist
09:55 PM on 04/08/2012
It seems America will never learn that the enemy of my enemy is NOT my friend
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skialethia
αω vs military might
09:45 PM on 04/08/2012
Oh gaaawwwwwwwwwd, keep censoring me....I'M GONE!
fuzzychickens
The higher the power, the bigger the lies
11:35 PM on 04/08/2012
Don't challenge the narrative Don't challenge the narrative

Don't challenge the narrative Don't challenge the narrative

Don't challenge the narrative Don't challenge the narrative
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skialethia
αω vs military might
09:37 PM on 04/08/2012
Hey, the U.S. armed and trained OBL and AQ and look how that backfired!

Enabling terrorists via the "enemy of my enemy"...loser cyclical strategy. And hello...how do you spell HYPOCRISY?
04:48 PM on 04/10/2012
At no time in history did the USA ever arm or ever train OBL or AQ. Not even in the 1980s.
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chlai88
Change is the only constant
09:23 PM on 04/08/2012
This enemy of my enemy is my friend thing has got us in hot soup more than once. The most famous is Afghanistan's anti-Soviet mujahideen that morphed into the Taliban who harbors Al Qaeda. Our main problem isn't that we support freedom fighters, it's that we only do so for our own narrow political ends, like toppling the country's govt & then walk away. Today's Taliban is the result of our neglect of Afghanistan's development once the Soviets are gone leaving a huge vacuum. But Iran is no Soviet Union. Their govt aren't invaders but Iranians themselves. We may not like the Iranian govt's legitimacy but it's clearly up to Iranians themselves to decide. We will be backing the wrong group of "freedom fighters" if majority of Iranians view them as terrorists.
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ProudToBeVeryLiberal
Science is the antidote to the poison of religion
09:43 PM on 04/08/2012
It's not like the US has never supported terr0rism, quite the opposite! No country has supported as much terr0rism as ours. G00gle GIadio/Stay Behind, or Luis Posada Carriles.

"The United States is a leading terr0rist state"

-- Noam Chomski
10:17 AM on 04/09/2012
At least spell his name correctly...it's Chomsky.
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skialethia
αω vs military might
09:50 PM on 04/08/2012
The mujahideen were not necessarily Taliban; they came from Egypt and Saudi Arabia too, and OBL, a Saudi was trained and armed by the U.S.
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ProudToBeVeryLiberal
Science is the antidote to the poison of religion
10:00 PM on 04/08/2012
True. But it's also true that thousands of Mujahaeeden, including some of their leading commanders like Haqqani joined the TaIiban because their philosophy, core belief and "values" weren't really that different from those of the TaIiban, despite what a child here who parrots US pr0paganda of the 1980's say (that the Mujahaeeden were freedom-loving, democracy-loving, women-respecting people who would never dream of becoming religious fundamentalists. Incidentally the same person who believes that the DOD is an "unbiased source." Comical, isn't it?)
yappnmutt
humping legs for liberty
09:16 PM on 04/08/2012
looks like we need another obl.
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skialethia
αω vs military might
09:59 PM on 04/08/2012
Yes, it looks the the future AQ equivalent is in training.
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JCleveland
You think, therefore you think you are
08:53 PM on 04/08/2012
"The training ended sometime before President Obama took office, the former official said.

Read more http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2012/04/mek.html#ixzz1rV3wtjmc
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Feurio
Religion poisons everything
08:31 PM on 04/08/2012
Bolton Receives Warm Reception as He Tells Congress to Bomb Iran, Support MEK
http://www.niacouncil.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=7459&security=1&news_iv_ctrl=-1

From 2008... Many Americans remain unaware that they are funding terrorist attacks
http://www.radiodujour.com/people/ritter_scott/
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ProudToBeVeryLiberal
Science is the antidote to the poison of religion
09:01 PM on 04/08/2012
"The US government has never sponsored terr0rism!"

This is what conservative Iemmings believe. The same people who can't wrap their tiny minds around the FACT that our government has lied countless times. Reality, however, is a totally different thing. G00gle GIadio/Stay Behind. Oh yeah, that was just a bunch of Iies and a c0nspiracy by European leftists, right?