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John Spooner's 'No One Ever Told Us That' (EXCERPT)

Posted: 04/11/2012 11:26 am

John Spooner

"I’ve made money writing every year for 45 years," John Spooner told us in a recent interview. "If I don’t have a magazine deal or column or I’m working on book I feel will be published, my life is over in a certain way.” In his latest book, Spooner speaks directly to his grandchildren, sharing the wisdom he has gained over the years. The following is an excerpt from 'No One Ever Told Us That: Money and Life Letters to My Grandchildren.'

Grandchildren:

Men are no longer from Mars and women just from Venus. These days, we’re all from everywhere. When your Mimi and I were married, the roles for men and women were clearly defined. No matter where in America you lived, the man was the breadwinner and went to a job every day. The woman kept the house and raised the children.

Today, it’s difficult to even define relationships. A sardonic friend called recently and said, “You wanna marry a goat? And if you’re in love, who says a goat won’t make a great spouse? The sky’s the limit these days.” Well, if the sky’s the limit, it’s more important than ever to have friends of the opposite sex. And I mean pristine friendships, no sex involved. There, grandchildren, I actually said the word I haven’t mentioned in my letters to you—sex. Now it’s out of the way. My parents had two kids, me and my younger sister. I remember her saying to me when she was about fourteen, “Yuck. How could you ever think about Mom and Dad ‘doing it’? What a turnoff. Bad enough they did it twice, right?” You probably would not be surprised at how many young people think and have said the same thing.

I believe that if you are ever going to manage people or run a business, you’d better have a friend of the opposite sex with whom you can have free, frank, and often funny conversations. Here are just a few examples of what I’ve learned from my female buddies, ladies both older and younger than me.

My oldest woman friend is in her eighties. She doesn’t hide her age. She tells me, “All I’m looking for is a dirty old man with a clean body.” She sends me presents occasionally, like notepads with my photo on them and the quotation “Whatever it is...no.” She loves giving presents, and I’ve tried to layer some restraint over her generosity to others, including me. “I was in retail sales until I was in my seventies,” she always reminded me. “And I’d throw in a little extra to every customer I waited on: a perfume sample, a conditioner, a blush. And I’d give them restaurant, movie tips, as well. ‘Sylvia’s Services,’ I’d tell them. And it separated me from the crowd of other salespeople. Be a little different if you sell anything,” she said. And I’ve always remembered that.

On the “different” angle, I’ve had a woman lawyer friend who told me when we met, “I don’t want to have anyone forget me. So I’ll tell you a little story. I wanted my husband to have a special fortieth birthday present. He’s a big Democrat. So I took a trip to Providence, rhode Island, went to a tattoo parlor. And had a donkey tattooed on my left butt.”

“Let’s see it,” I said.

“Well,” she answered, “I won’t show it to you, but I did get up on the firm’s copy machine and—here.” She whipped out a copy of her tattoo and said, “What a tribute to a husband. You can imagine how much thought and creativity I’d put into your legal problems.”

Every time someone came to me after that, looking for a street-smart lawyer, I referred them to her. Sadly, for me, she became a judge and stopped taking private clients. But she had told me a few precious principles of hers, like:

1. Unless you’re a nuclear physicist, you need human interaction. And remember, in that interaction the most important quality is a sense of humor. Because people are really terrified of one another.

2. We are not practical people; we believe what we see on the screen. I have handled hundreds of divorce cases and I know that marriage is something you have to work at every day, like constantly negotiating a peace treaty. American men won’t believe that you cannot just marry for love.

3. Never overlook the obvious when dealing with people on any level. Tip O’Neill, the former Speaker of the House, once asked a woman in his district if she voted for him. “No,” the woman said to the long-time congressman.
“Why not?” asked the surprised O’Neill.
“You never asked,” the woman answered.

As an author, my friendships with women have, I think, made me better able to craft them as characters in realistic ways. As a businessman, I hope I’m sensitive to the opposite sex as well and try to appreciate them. It can help your business function more efficiently and profitably.

I have lots of quickie phrases and comments of wis- dom from my women friends and clients that I come back to often. One woman advertising executive told me right before I married your Mimi, “When you two start a family and pressures build in the office, it is key to remember, ‘Don’t be a pain in the butt around the house.’ ” This has been good advice for more than forty years.

Alyssa, I’ll have a letter all for you, with street smart advice from men to women. I’m taking notes on it as you read this. Nope, you’re not chopped liver, I’m just trying to make the milk and the chocolate cake finish at the same time.

Your loving Papa

When times are tough, we revert to our basic essentials.

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05:31 PM on 04/15/2012
The more a woman tells her friends how good you are in bed, the more her friends want to find out too ! ... ( .. So be good, Santa Claus might be watching ! .. )
02:57 PM on 04/15/2012
There was a time (I think) when wisdom from those older than us was welcomed. But somewhere along the way we became convinced that older people irrelevant. Regardless of gender. In my own family my parents were simply argumentative and my grandparents silent. Now, at nearly 60, I try to remember what I was doing at the same age when I speak with my grown kids. The generations do experience different things. But the basics remain. I wish I had heard more from my grandparents. And, to be honest, a little less from my parents.
04:12 PM on 04/15/2012
I don't know that one becomes "irrelevant" as one ages but (as the letter above suggests), life tends to become more frightening as we age because society becomes less recognizable. Accordingly, one can easily be labeled a grumpy old person when interacting with persons of a subsequent generation. The"basics" do remain the same, however, and it is this that all generations need to use as a unifying principle when it comes to interpersonal skills.
01:04 PM on 04/15/2012
With age comes wisdom ....... with practice , you can figure out how much milk to put in the glass !!!!
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11:31 AM on 04/15/2012
Friendship is everything. Without it, life is nothing.
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08:46 AM on 04/15/2012
"When times are tough, we revert to our basic essentials" That was the last line of the article and perhaps the best. If you want to find out someones true character put them in a demanding situation and see how they handle it.
05:30 PM on 04/13/2012
Saw Spooner speak on the Wall Street Journal Report with Maria Bartiromo this week. Spooner's recognition of "how it was" and "how it is" offers a bridge of common sense between generations. http://eulareesmith.squarespace.com/blog/2012/4/13/no-one-ever-told-us-that.html
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08:35 PM on 04/11/2012
"Friendships" between men and women always have a sexual dimension, whether the parties want to recognize it or not. Better to keep them at arms length, and then some.

But then, I'm a physicist - what do I know?
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03:07 PM on 04/15/2012
"men can't be friends with a woman he finds attractive" "what if he's not attracted to her?, He pretty much wants to nail her too" Best quote from an awesome movie "when Harry Met Sally"
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jf12
When I saw her I marveled greatly.
12:39 PM on 04/11/2012
Ah, advice from men to women. I'll wait to hear if she followed it.
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07:54 PM on 04/11/2012
Is that the equivalent of asking for directions?
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jf12
When I saw her I marveled greatly.
09:07 PM on 04/11/2012
Yes, by which I guess you mean men don't ask for directions. It's true, I'd rather drive around and see the local sights than pretend to follow some tentative gibberish "um, the second, no maybe the third, I think".

Some men's advice is followed by women, almost desperately as though they were trying to prove to him that they could. But most men's advice is not merely ignored but ostentatiously contravened in order to demonstrate how foolish and presumptuous he was.
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mctrap
The neuroplasticity of the sheeple is mind bending
12:20 PM on 04/15/2012
Why does it take 100 million sperm to fertilize an egg? .......Because none of them will stop and ask for directions.