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Paul Ryan Plan: Recess Fight Over Budget Preview Of Fall 2012 Races

By HENRY C. JACKSON 04/14/12 09:51 AM ET AP

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WASHINGTON -- Freshman Republican Rep. Joe Heck sees no reason to back down after voting for a Republican budget plan that combines deep spending cuts in safety-net programs for the poor with a dramatic overhaul of Medicare and steep drops in tax rates.

The blueprint "is not perfect, but it's something that is on the table to start moving forward and say, `Look, we face serious challenges, not just today, but over the next decade,'" Heck said after a job fair in his suburban Las Vegas district. A top target of Democrats this November, Heck is certain that seriousness about addressing the federal deficit will win over voters, especially in his state, hit hard by home foreclosures and record unemployment.

In Colorado, Democratic Rep. Ed Perlmutter is determined to use the spending plan crafted by the House Budget Committee chairman, Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., as a campaign issue.

"It's a winner (for Democrats) because that budget is such a loser," said Perlmutter, a suburban Denver congressman facing a challenge from a well-known name – Joe Coors Jr., scion of the brewing company.

Democrats and Republicans in Congress can't agree on a budget, but there's no disagreement about using Ryan's to highlight an election-year divide.

President Barack Obama has called the GOP budget a backward "radical vision" and "thinly veiled social Darwinism" that would let many people struggle while the rich benefit. Republicans say their plan is a sober approach to dealing with out-of-control government spending and higher taxes in an era that demands fiscal austerity.

The debate underscores the broader dispute between the two parties about the role and size of government.

From town halls to job fairs to meet-and-greets with voters during Congress' two-week recess, Democrats and Republicans focused on the budget in a preview of the seven-month campaign to November. The economy and jobs are voters' priorities, and how the budget debate plays out could prove critical in the fall, with control of the White House, Senate and House at stake.

Obama and likely GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney have both signaled that the budget plan will be an element in their race.

The House plan would make deep cuts to government programs. Everything from food stamps to transportation is on the chopping block. It calls for shrinking the current six income-tax rate system to just two and lowering the top rate to 25 percent from the current 35 percent.

The most politically dicey element is the change in Medicare, the $500 billion-a-year health insurance program for older people. Both parties are keenly aware that this group votes in high numbers and cares passionately about the program.

Republicans would leave the plan alone for retirees and those nearing retirement. For younger people, Medicare would be reshaped into a voucher-like system in which the government would subsidize people's health care costs. Republicans say that would drive down costs by giving beneficiaries a menu of competing options. Democrats say government payments won't keep up with the rapid inflation of medical costs, leaving many struggling to afford the care.

Heck's district has its share of seniors at retirement communities. The 50-year-old former state senator won his seat in 2010 by just 1,748 votes and faces a strong challenge from the speaker of the Nevada Assembly, John Oceguera. He calls the Ryan plan, passed just two weeks ago, one of the keys to victory.

"The Ryan budget and the Medicare issues are big for people," Oceguera said. "We would like to get information out about how damaging that could be to people's personal lives. It's going to affect a lot of folks."

Heck focused on job creation and the economy during his remarks at the job fair he organized. He didn't mention the House GOP budget, but said he is confident voters will support it when they learn more.

"While folks here may or may not realize it, those types of things directly or indirectly are going to make life better for them," he said. "Certainly we need to draw that connection that, look, as we get our deficit under control and we control our spending in Washington that's going to give more stability and predictability."

Nate Williams, a 22-year-old unemployed electrician who attended Heck's job fair, said he had thought he had heard of Ryan's plan but wanted to hear more about how to create jobs.

"People in Nevada need help from Washington, from someone," he said.

In a swing district in Michigan, Republican Rep. Dan Benishek was greeted at a town hall by a group of seniors holding signs saying "Save Medicare." They pressed the freshman lawmaker about the GOP budget's proposed cuts.

"We'll have a significant change to benefits unless we do something about (Medicare)," Benishek told constituents, while standing by his budget vote.

At a town hall event in New Hampshire, GOP Rep. Charlie Bass faced similarly pointed questions. He told voters some of what's been publicized about the plan has been mischaracterized. Rep. Vicky Hartzler, R-Mo., who defeated 17-term Democratic Rep. Ike Skelton in 2010, also faced questions from constituents about the plan's effect on Medicare.

All three, in seats Democrats would like to win this fall, can expect Democrats to bring up the issue over and over again.

Perlmutter said he's heard from several voters about the Ryan plan. Republicans see his district, split nearly evenly among Republicans, Democrats and independents, as one of their best pick up opportunities in the fall. They've recruited Coors to run against him.

At an event in a grocery store, Perlmutter's constituents showed why both sides feel they can get traction on the budget issue in the fall.

Glen Erfman, a 56-year-old U.S. Postal Service employee from Lakewood, Colo., quizzed his congressman on the budget plan and called it "terrible."

"My main issue with Congress is, they're out to do all they can to cut everything for regular people but not rich people," Erfman said.

Steps away at the same event self-employed 62-year-old Rick Piggott, also from Lakewood, said Democrats needed to give the plan much more serious consideration.

"We need to cut spending – big time. Big time," he said. "But our president doesn't seem to care about cutting anything."

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Associated Press writers Cristina Silva in Henderson, Nev., and Kristen Wyatt in Lakewood, Colo., contributed to this report.

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RepublicanDepression
Of the1% by the1% for the Gerrymandering One% =GOP
01:08 PM on 04/27/2012
“The reason I got involved in public service, by and large, if I had to credit one thinker, one person, it would be Ayn Rand,”

Paul Ryan, four years ago.

“I reject her (Ayn Rand) philosophy. It’s an atheist philosophy. It reduces human interactions down to mere contracts and it is antithetical to my worldview. If somebody is going to try to paste a person’s view on epistemology to me, then give me Thomas Aquinas,”

Paul Ryan, last week.

Paul Ryan is taking etch a sketch lessons from his buddy Romney!
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rgif102478
02:38 PM on 04/17/2012
Mr. Ryan, I'm sure you have a cut in your plan that cut's your salary and health care
benefits as much as you are cutting the old people. They say you are a fair person
and a good Christain and no reason to thank you would do anything else right?
The only thang you haven't done is we haven't seen or heard about this
I'm sure you left it out by mistake sence you are a good Christain so we will be looking
forward to you doing this, a good Christain will always do the right thing.
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mcmutter
A Groover has to expect a few setbacks .....
07:04 AM on 04/16/2012
Ryan "Budget" runs up TRILLION and TRILLIONS in debt over the next 20 years .....

but don't worry .....

the ultra-rich get zillions in tax breaks and will become richer and richer than ever .....
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VonMarco
Common Sense is not so Common
12:55 PM on 05/05/2012
Someone, pls give me a concrete example when the GOP actually have reduced the deficit.
Before commenting...........read this link......http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/02/13/michael-tomasky-on-gop-deficit-hypocrisy-at-release-of-obama-s-budget.html
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robphilnz
Where's my Micro-bio gone?
02:22 AM on 04/16/2012
I cannot believe that Ryan is now claiming that his pro-wealthy, anti-poor "budget" aligns with his Catholic belief and teaching.

I find it even harder to believe that this devout disciple of Ayn Rand has the audacity to even suggest that he has any Christian convictions.

Sociopath Ayn Rand was extremely anti-faith. One of her many aphorisms was the parody on a Biblical exhortation: "Follow Me or Follow God, You cannot Follow Both".

She also said that "people who need deserve neither love nor respect, because they have not earned them."

Like most of those hypocrites, she lived on SS and Medicare during her final years, despite having made a fortune from her books.

Ryan may be proud to profess his Christ-like qualities. However, the day he humbly and quietly practices the teachings will be the day when OTHERS may be more impressed by his actions and behaviour.
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mcmutter
A Groover has to expect a few setbacks .....
07:05 AM on 04/16/2012
great post
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VonMarco
Common Sense is not so Common
01:38 PM on 05/05/2012
Great comment...fanned and faved #3. Republicans have only one conviction...they will do anything to gain power to the destroy our form of government they hate. They are telling the american people that government is the problem not the solution, they honestly believe this.
Without our form of government and its function in our society, we would not lead the world the way we do. Compare their view with those countries where the few rule and possess the lion's share of wealth.......these countries are dictatorial and have experienced uprisings and protests.
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Hannibal55
Misrey luvs company but company doesn't reciprocat
12:27 PM on 04/15/2012
The most politically dicey element is the change in Medicare, the $500 billion-a-year health insurance program for older people. Both parties are keenly aware that this group votes in high numbers and cares passionately about the program.

The 55 and older exemption to Medicare cuts is only a temporary position!

Once a wedge has been placed between the older and younger voters, the Republicans will use the younger voters to drive the older voters off Medicare because the support for the "untouched" portion will be diluted.

Young people will look at the senior the same way that conservatives look at illegals! They will resent the older beneficiaries and will support the trashing of the whole program. They will have the Koch Brothers and the Tea Party m.0.r.o.N.s to do their bidding!
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VonMarco
Common Sense is not so Common
01:43 PM on 05/05/2012
This has been the CONS palybook for decades, divide and conquer yet they try to project this lunacy onto the sensible and logical thinkers. If young folk vote for these narrowminded CONS, they will suffer now and in the future and so will their children.
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John Shuck
Properly used, profanity is punctuation.
12:26 PM on 04/15/2012
I disagree with Rep Heck when he says the Ryan budget is better than nothing. It's crystal clear that it's worse than nothing, just as the Bush tax cuts proved to be.
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ebanks84
Grandma knows best!
11:13 AM on 04/15/2012
Of the average folk, nobody is giving a good cahoot about Ryan's joke of a plan and it's all fodder for politicians to fight over at this point. The people give no credence whatsoever to that jacked up bunch of crap so it doesn't worry us one iota. What worries me is the politicians who will try and sneak that baby past us in the dark, under tables, behind the scenes without our knowledge. That's what bothers me. Politicians are too damn sneaky for me and I've seen what they do to try and get over behind the people's back.

Leave Ryan to us. We'll make sure that budget catastrophe makes it nowhere but in the 13th file (the garbage can). It's up to the media to keep your eyes and ears open around Ryan to make sure we know what's happening in the wings so we can protect ourselves as need be. That's how we keep control of Ryan and his loosey goosey finance tactics.
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GunnisonVern
my bio is not micro
10:53 AM on 04/15/2012
Paul Ryan's budget is far from extreme. Where is the Democratic response? When was the last time a the Senate passed a budget? Pointing fingers and asserting something is extreme is NOT a valid argument for an immanent problem. Bring your best to the table Democrats! Until then watch America take back it's country.
Romney 2012
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Hannibal55
Misrey luvs company but company doesn't reciprocat
12:32 PM on 04/15/2012
You can spend your retirement savings and your kids college money, taking care of your parents! After all, the money they paid into Social Security and Medicare went to give Mitt Romney and the Koch Brothers a nice fat tax break!

We will get some satisfaction that you brought that on yourself!
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GunnisonVern
my bio is not micro
01:00 PM on 04/15/2012
Right now the Social Security and Medicare are on a path to bankrupt the nation. No future whatsoever. The Democrats refuse to address this in any way shape or form. Leaders deal with problems. Coward point fingers, sling mud, and avoid REAL solutions.
03:31 PM on 04/15/2012
Social Security and Medicare were based upon the idea of establishing independent funding for each. These were supposed to have been real trust funds, or so I thought. During LBJ's rule, perhaps earlier, the SS money went into the general fund and was spent as just tax revenue. Their isn't any 'real' money in the trust fund, it amounts to IOUs. The Koch Bros. and Romney had nothing whatsoever to do with this. Nothing.
From early on many saw the SS money as a huge Ponzi scheme. FDR helped give you this scheme.

If you confiscated all of the wealth of all of the rich in this country it would hardly make a dent in the debt. Add the 50 trillion of unfunded liabilities and it appears hopeless regardless of which politicians are in charge.
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rgif102478
02:51 PM on 04/17/2012
Hey the Senate passed a lot of things in the Bush adminstertion they created
millions of jobs in Asia in China and all over the world.
Rowwdy
Truth Will Set You Free
10:47 AM on 04/15/2012
*This is the Ryan Plan and it sure isn’t in the best interest of you, your children and your grandchildren, and he doesn’t care if you’re Republican or Democrat. His plan shifts the ownership of health coverage away from the government and employers to individuals, be careful America because this guy along with his colleagues are coiled snakes ready to strike with vengeance on behalf of the rich…
http://www.roadmap.republicans.budget.house.gov/Issues/Issue/?IssueID=8514
10:39 AM on 04/15/2012
Is he, his budget still relevant?
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Dev Austin
Haters are my motivators
10:33 AM on 04/15/2012
We can only hope the Romney uses Ryan's budget in his campaign. It will go further to point out just how out of touch he really is. After all the guy still thinks he can the women's vote back...silly man. Backing the budget will only lose a great deal more votes that even the riches of rich can't buy back.
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429freckles
Ex Republican Now Devoted Democrat
10:46 AM on 04/15/2012
I'd love to see him try too.
What really amazes me is this...
Our 'defense' budget is so terribly bloated but no Republican can even propose a modest cutback there. Instead, they'll balance the budget on the backs of those 54 years old & younger. Baby-boomers were born from 1946 - 1964. IF, Romney wins & the Ryan plan is passed next year even, most baby-boomers will not have to make any sacrifices at all. Just those boomers born from 1959 - 1964. The 'pain' of deficits they are wanting to save our kids & grandkids from will only be magnified for everyone born after 1958. A life-long magnification.
SoCalGrandma
Question consumption.
10:04 AM on 04/15/2012
Congress has been on vacation for the last two weeks. Now I know why my blood pressure is back to normal.
09:46 AM on 04/15/2012
The Ryan "Hunger Games" budget will turn the middle class into District 12.
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jginthecountry
Dystopia is here.
10:09 AM on 04/15/2012
And District 12 gets bombed out of existence - looks like that's where we're headed. F&F
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Rick4646
Union-worker, make working-class strong again
09:05 AM on 04/15/2012
The Ryan budget, which Mitt likes will give the millionaires an additional $250,000+/yr in tax cuts; but it is paid for by having 2.8-4.1 million jobs eliminated by 2014 and have millions more lose insurance; and it does nothing to help our deficit and history has shown they are not the "job creators", so the GOP can't use that as a cop-out. It would be like, to use one their own famous words, millionaires freeloading off working-class families.
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luvsox
Progressive by Choice, Democrat by Default
09:22 AM on 04/15/2012
I have to fan a Union Man!
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elbeas
Pragmatista sinistra
08:31 AM on 04/15/2012
Does Ryan have enough rope, yet?
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10:20 AM on 04/15/2012
Speaking of, corporate wealthcare ryan trying to frame his healthscare lies is the equivalent of trying to push a wet rope.................