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ALAN FRAM   04/15/12 01:51 PM ET  AP

WASHINGTON — Democrats and Republicans are forcing votes in Congress this coming week on competing tax plans that affect millionaires and smaller businesses, and they know the proposals are doomed from the start.

But that doesn't matter to either party.

Their efforts, including a Senate vote Monday on President Barack Obama's "Buffett rule" proposal to impose a minimum tax on the wealthiest Americans, are more about pontificating than legislating, aimed at voters in November's congressional and presidential elections.

Neutral economists say neither bill would do much for the economy or job creation. Some political professionals are equally unimpressed with their potential impact on voters.

Undaunted, congressional leaders hope to maximize public attention by timing both roll calls with an eye to Tuesday, the annual deadline for filing income taxes with the Internal Revenue Service. The upcoming votes probably are just a start.

Senate Democrats later this year may hold additional votes tied to the "Buffett rule," using his idea of a minimum 30 percent tax on top earners to raise money for proposal to create jobs and keep student loan rates from rising.

With trillions in tax cuts dating from President George W. Bush set to expire in January, House and Senate leaders also are considering campaign-season votes on extending popular parts of those reductions, such as preventing the $1,000 child tax credit from being cut in half.

In addition, Obama and his all-but-certain GOP opponent, Mitt Romney, will spend much of the campaign promoting their tax blueprints as antidotes to an economy still struggling to generate jobs.

Besides raising taxes on the wealthy, Obama would boost levies on many U.S. companies that do business overseas, and on the oil and gas industry. The new money would help lower individual and corporate rates and reduce federal deficits.

Romney would continue all Bush tax cuts, including those for the richest people, while trimming rates and eliminating estate taxes.

"If this were a heavyweight fight, we're still in the first round where both sides are kind of feeling each other out," Republican consultant Mike McKenna said about the votes in the week ahead.

On Monday, as Congress returns from a two-week spring break, the Democratic-led Senate expect votes on a "Buffett rule" measure by Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse, D-R.I. It would slap a minimum 30 percent income tax on people making over $2 million yearly and phase in higher taxes for those earning at least $1 million. Republicans are sure to block the bill, nicknamed for billionaire Warren Buffett, who backs higher taxes on the rich.

The GOP-run House plans a Thursday vote on legislation providing a 20 percent tax deduction for businesses that employ fewer than 500 workers, which covers 99.9 percent of all companies. The proposal, sponsored by House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va., seems certain to pass, but fail in the Senate.

Those votes are set just as many Americans stare at their own tax returns. The Internal Revenue Service says that through April 6, it had received 99 million of 145 million expected returns. So far, 80 million refunds have been issued averaging $2,794, down $101 from last year.

For political leaders looking ahead to the November elections, the demise of this week's bills will matter little.

Democrats think the Buffett rule vote will underscore their commitment to economic fairness and GOP favoritism for the rich, a prominent election theme. Hammering at it lets Obama shine a spotlight on Romney, a former private equity executive who has paid an income tax rate of about 15 percent on annual earnings of $21 million, which is a lower rate than many middle-class families pay.

"It's simple. If you make more than $1 million every year, you should pay at least the same percentage of your income in taxes as middle-class families do," Obama said Saturday in his weekly broadcast address.

Republicans believe the business tax measure will spotlight their efforts to lower taxes and create jobs, contrasted with Democrats' preference for higher taxes to finance ever-larger government. They believe they win the debate by keeping the focus on those subjects, not what the wealthy pay.

"We want small-business people to have more money go to their pockets, not the government's," Cantor said recently at a Virginia high school. "And then they have more money to make decisions about hiring, about retaining jobs and about creating more jobs."

Democratic political consultant Alan Secrest said both measures might excite the most fervent partisans but do little for independents, who he said care more about jobs.

"And neither party has a particular advantage on that right now," Secrest said.

The Buffett rule is clearly popular. An Associated Press-GfK poll in February showed that nearly 2 in 3 favor a 30 percent tax for those making $1 million annually, including most Democrats and independents and even 4 in 10 Republicans.

Yet the measure would raise just $47 billion over a decade, a smidgen of the $7 trillion in federal deficits expected during that time.

While a 20 percent tax deduction would be welcomed by any company, the $46 billion in lower taxes Cantor's bill would provide over the next six years would barely register on the $100 trillion in U.S. economic activity projected for that period. There also are doubts that it would spur new jobs.

"If they have more sales, they'll hire," said Maury Harris, chief U.S. economist for UBS, the investment bank. "If they don't have the sales, they won't hire. That's what it's all about."

Senate Democrats, who champion a narrower bill providing tax credits for firms hiring workers, call the GOP small-business cuts "a profit-padding tax giveaway." Democrats have also criticized extending Bush's tax cuts for being too costly at a time of big budget deficits, though most favor extending them for all but the highest earners.

Rep. Dave Camp, chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, said the business tax cut bill would show that Republicans are trying to spark job growth. He also said he would welcome Democratic opposition to any votes this year, should they occur, on renewing Bush's tax cuts.

"If the Democrats want to have all those taxes go up, let them," said Camp, R-Mich.

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WASHINGTON — Democrats and Republicans are forcing votes in Congress this coming week on competing tax plans that affect millionaires and smaller businesses, and they know the proposals are doom...
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seriouslyfalling
03:38 PM on 04/16/2012
We could pass Obama's plan tomorrow and it would make absolutely no difference in our economy, other than the jobs it would cost of course. But if they passed the plan, took in all the extra taxes all on one day and then directed 100% of the money they collected towards covering government spending, at the current rate of spending it would cover ELEVEN MINUTES of federal spending! But wait, the federal revenue lost from the jobs that would be cut because of the tax increases would then cost us at LEAST ELEVEN minutes MORE in federal spending!!!! Sorry folks, but fleecing the job creators is not the answer to our problem! We need draconian CUTS in federal spending. We need citizens who start making better life choices, citizens who start standing on their own two feet and taking personal responsibility for their own lives and their own choices. Yes, sometimes life throws you lemons....but if you have taken those lemons and turned them into a lifetime of living on government handouts...YOU ARE THE PROBLEM!
04:23 PM on 04/16/2012
So the rich job creators would get real mad and stop all of their great job creation work?
01:35 PM on 04/16/2012
Redistribution of wealth is Obama's tax plan is to have the working 49% pay the remaining 51% that do not pay any taxes get a refund! The Earned Income Tax Credit, sometimes called EIC is a tax credit that results in a tax refund check to those that do not pay any taxes. To qualify, you must file a tax return, even if you do not owe any tax or are not required to file.

Sweet.
01:39 PM on 04/16/2012
So the poor are grabbing all the wealth and living the good life thanks to the President? Really? I know how to fix them. Just let the Bush tax cuts expire for all of us. Maybe it is time we started paying our own bills.
01:47 PM on 04/16/2012
That's step 2 of the Obama plan. Step 1 tax the millionaires. Step 2. Step 3...
12:52 PM on 04/16/2012
President Obama ignored his debt commissions recommendations two years ago and would have really helped turn things around for us if he had embraced them. Actions speak louder than words and that is all we've gotten, his buffet rule which will bring in a pittance compared to the yearly deficit spending this bunch has commited us to. Of course without a budget, no one is aware we are 5.6 trillion dollars more in debt in just three short years (treasurydirect.gov). Also according to the IRS in 2009, those making over $250,000. per year paid 70.5 % of all taxes collected for the year and 47% of Americans paid 0 income tax. Sure sounds like more than their fair share to me. Our presidnet paid a smaller effective tax rate than my husband did this year. Maybe he should stop waving his finger at those greedy rich people who pay almost 3/4 of all revenue coming into this country and point his finger at himelf instead. But truthfully even at a lesser effective rate he and the other successful Americans paid a lot more than we did and that is the real truth. This is not about tax reform so much as class warfare and diverting attention from the dismal job performance regarding the economy and the reckless spending habits of this congress and administration.
02:03 PM on 04/16/2012
IMO, he could have embraced the commission recommendations all he wanted but they would not have gotten through Congress. Our President and Mr. Romney both paid a lower effective tax rate than you or I did.
02:14 PM on 04/16/2012
He didn't even embrace it.
12:51 PM on 04/16/2012
wow - wake up - The agenda -take out economy-ck ---military -in progress - why are you all still arguing?
12:43 PM on 04/16/2012
here's fair - make EVERYONE pay taxes - like - IDK -tax the welfare checks
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tomjefferson2005
Obama, House, Senate 2012 for the sake of America
12:54 PM on 04/16/2012
But Republican politicians have no problem giving billions of dollars of taxpayer money to oil companies. Ins't that redistribution of wealth from taxpayers to the oil companies?
12:40 PM on 04/16/2012
Funny - ObamaNOW escapes the Buffet rule and BUFFET OWES (never filed) almost half BILLION $$ in taxes - now how amazing is this?
01:36 PM on 04/16/2012
Mr. Buffett personally owes taxes? Really? Now that would be amazing if it were true. Actually you are talking about Bershire Hathaway. The company is in protracted litigation over its taxes.
jgrant129
aut viam inveniam aut faciam
01:42 PM on 04/16/2012
Hey, it's his company and he really, really wants to pay more taxes, so he should quit litigating and start paying.
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wirepaladinSF
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED-COME AND TAKE IT
12:03 PM on 04/16/2012
Obama has no plan. He has completely abdicated any leadership whatsoever. He offered a budget that was so ridiculous (it would have added $12 trillion to the debt) that not even ONE DEMOCRATS would vote for it. It failed 97-0 in the Democrat-controlled Senate. Just how massive a failure is Obama? And since then he has offered NOTHING but fearmongering and demonization.
We desperately need leadership. We desperately need a plan. And Obama – who is supposed to be seeking to rally the nation behind a common cause – is instead merely offering demagogic partisan speeches. When he is not spending American into bankruptcy and financial implosion.
12:24 PM on 04/16/2012
Neither party has put forward a proposal that can garner sufficient bi-partisan support to pass. Hence my hope that they continue gridlock and let the Bush tax cuts expire for all of us. That will increase revenue which means a smaller deficit. It will also anger the electorate, and may cause Congress to take a closer look at spending. With reduced spending and enhanced revenue we might get close to balancing the budget and quit redistributing our grandchildren's wealth.
12:56 PM on 04/16/2012
Bowles and Sympson, the president's debt commission two years ago put out a bi- partisan plan that was very good. Our president ignored it and the senate and house wouldn't even bring it up for a vote.
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wirepaladinSF
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED-COME AND TAKE IT
01:53 PM on 04/16/2012
Bush tax cuts expire for all of us. That will increase revenue which means a smaller deficit. ********* You are another one with less than a casual relationship with reality. Tax cuts aren't the cause of deficits ! Deficit spending causes deficits. But, we can both agree on the gridlock. The best thing that politicians can do the majority of the time is NOTHING.
12:41 PM on 04/16/2012
That's Obama's plan; then move to Egypt.
hifie
Middle of the road American advocate
10:44 AM on 04/16/2012
Some how we have divided along the lines of never any new tax or never any return to the taxes and spending level that provided a budget surplus and allowed us to pay down the national debt. The issues of debt reduction is a separate issue and YES we need to reduce spending. Even if there had been no additional spending to prop up the economy we would be unable balance the budget without the elimination of the Bush Tax Cuts. The tax cuts tipped the balance BEFORE the spending. When we couple the job losses, the revenue losses from those jobs and the tax cuts there is no way that anyone can simply change the debt on cut alone. Instead we get both sides of the isle poisoning the ability to have a fair conversation to solve the challenge. Add in non elected people like Norquist or the ultra right wing Koch brothers who have intentionally muddied the waters even further.it is even more difficult.
01:03 PM on 04/16/2012
We need them to look at the Bowles and Sympson plan, the president's debt commission. It is a really good bi-partisan plan that would reduce the deficit and broaden our tax base. Everyone would partake in some of the pain of deficit reduction without one area feeling the full brunt. So far the senate won't even propose a budget as they don't want the nation to know they have put us 5.6 trillion more in debt in three short years (treasurydirect.gov.) this plan was submitted over two years ago and has been completely ignored by our president as well as the house and senate at that time who were anythng but interested in anything bi-partisan at that time. Maybe now that things are getting worse they may reconsider? Nah, they are to busy trying to garner votes for the next election rather than doing their jobs!
10:29 AM on 04/16/2012
How about "ACROSS THE BOARD" tax for EVERYBODY? If you make 10k or 100k a year its still fair and even.
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El Duderino 791
The Dude minds, man.
11:09 AM on 04/16/2012
That would increase the budget deficit, yes?
01:06 PM on 04/16/2012
No, it would broaden the tax base. This buffet rule is a pittance and our president has already said he wants to use that money for clean energy in one of his speeches.
01:29 PM on 04/16/2012
Probably not. People that do not pay any taxes get a refund!

The Earned Income Tax Credit, sometimes called EIC is a tax credit results in a tax refund to those that do not pay any taxes. To qualify, you must file a tax return, even if you do not owe any tax or are not required to file.
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tomjefferson2005
Obama, House, Senate 2012 for the sake of America
12:15 PM on 04/16/2012
kwitcherlyin: How about "ACROSS THE BOARD" tax for EVERYBODY? If you make 10k or 100k a year its still fair and even. ....................... .......................... REPLY: What a kind thoughtful Republican representing just how low that party is going. An elderly blind lady (possibly one that thinks the Republican Party cares about her) who is without a job, who is fighting cancer or some other tragedy, and is barely able to pay for medicine, food, and electricity is going to be taxed by you and your robber baron buddy Mitt Romney.In your "compassionate conservative" mind that's "fair and even?" www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLWnB9FGmWE
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10:06 AM on 04/16/2012
Why in the world would you want to put more money in the hands of the people who gave us the Iraq War, Medicare Part D, Obamacare and Solyndra?

Or a $61.3 TRILLION deficit in Medicare and Social Security?

The government is THE LEAST efficient allocator of resources.

Cut taxes. Slash spending. Eliminate many regulations. Devolve power back to the states. Get this country growing again.
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janmB
loves life
10:15 AM on 04/16/2012
Social Security has NEVER missed a paycheck in over 70+ years a very successful GOV T WE THE PEOPLE program. that has NOTHING to do with the deficit. The GOVT had to bail out WALL STREET did you forget that one ?
Somehow --you have managed to go from Clinton and JUMP right over the eight years of the republicans ruining everything to blaming OBAMA.... sounds like RUSH LIMBAUGH ideology.
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10:26 AM on 04/16/2012
Read the latest report from the Social Security and Medicare Board of Trustees. The two programs are $61.3 trillion out of trust, meaning that projected outlays will exceed projected incomes by that amount. Please understand that of which you speak.

And I didn't skip over Bush. I included the Iraq War (also favored by most Democrats) and Medicare Part D, both of which occurred under his watch. Please understand that of which you speak.

Finally, Wall Street actually cost very little to bail out under TARP, although I also think that was wasteful.

Please learn how to think logically. Thank you.
01:12 PM on 04/16/2012
It is slanted to run out of money. Did you know the government has left social security with IOUs as they did the postal service and has yet to pay it back. They have been syphoning money off for years. This has been going on through all administrations both republican and democrat. The theft and mismanagment of our social security system is universal with both parties. Actually, he included all the bad actors in that it is all the parties and administrations that have been fiscally irresponsible.
09:56 AM on 04/16/2012
Much ado about nothing. How a bout a real plan? let the Bush tax cuts expire. For all of us. Now. Quit redistributing our grandchildren's wealth. Now. Ending the Bush tax cuts by itself would still leave a deficit but if we were actually paying our own bills we might be a little more careful about what we buy and how much we pay for it.
01:17 PM on 04/16/2012
The problem with that is businesses are in trouble and there are few jobs. In order to have growth we need more businesses to start up, capital from investors for the start ups, and enough certainty for businesses to feel comfortable hiring. Right now there are too many variables. If captial gains go up it will effect the behavior of investors and slow down that much needed investment money for business start up. You are thinking like an employee while for this jobless economy, we need to think like employers in order to turn things around.
01:45 PM on 04/16/2012
The volume of capital available is huge thanks to the Fed and interest rates are low. Banks are hungry for good viable businesses to lend to but they are concerned about demand for the products. Hence capital is, IMO, not the issue nor are our rich job creators the answer. Balancing our budget, sooner rather than later is, again IMO, a good idea.
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janmB
loves life
02:16 PM on 04/16/2012
Good idea ? Except on record eight of ten businesses FAIL. The days of yester-year have gone by.....the MOM and POP stores that were open 7 days a week to scrape by are not really what America needs and really wants. It needs modern corporations and companies that pay well so people have a life. It's all been going to the 1% ....because ----
"The rich need an abundant supply of the poor" - Voltaire
07:45 AM on 04/16/2012
Politicians are the only ones who run on how bad the tax code is then add more regulation to in instead of simplifying it. This buffet rule will supposedly bring $4 billion in new revenues a year. Our tax code is so bad according to an audit did by the treasury, Last year the IRS made payments of $4.2 billion in refundable tax credits (cash subsidies) to illegal aliens. It also found the IRS currently hands out $44 billion in the earned income tax credits. (up from $4 billion in 1990) and of that the fraud in the program cost taxpayers $10 billion per year. That is just one program out of hundreds of thousands of pages of tax codes and hundreds of added programs. FYI we don't write tax code Congress does. It is time we insist they scrape the current mess and start over with a simple system where fraud and abuse would be cut almost zero if we had a flat tax. In my opinion Congress has been convicted of irresponsibility and incompetents by the very state they have put this great nation in. It is we the people against the 545. It is time we hold everyone of them accountable. Both parties got us here its time to clean house. It is up to us. They lie and cheats us everyday. Wake up!
01:22 PM on 04/16/2012
We are 5.6 trillion more in debt in just three short years( treasurydirect.gov). that is an astounding esculation in spending considering bush added 4.3 trillion in 8 years. What I don't get is you never hear about it in the media. We are on the precipice of financial insolvency and the media is silent.
07:44 AM on 04/16/2012
Yet again both sides miss a prime point. You want the economy to revover you have to put the money in the hands of people who will spend it, not hoard it. For the economy to work money has to move, not sit in banks, the more money moves the more the economy is stimulated. Mind you, this is not a complete soultion to the economic problems we have but it is an important part of the overall economic growth.
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l78lancer
Wisdom is the principal thing
06:16 AM on 04/16/2012
Cantor's plan is supposed to be aimed at small businesses. But 9.6 million small businesses and sole proprietors will get 15% of the benefit while the top 1% (about 125,000 people) will receive the lions's share. Plus the tax "cut" will just get slapped on top of the existing budget to the tune of $46 billion. So in essence the small businessman will pay to get screwed.

With that type of con coming out of congress, I have no reason to trust any tax plan coming from Mr. 1% Romney.
01:26 PM on 04/16/2012
Our 1% president has had no common sense approach but demonize employers as those people who don't pay their fair share as in everyone making $200,000. per year and up which encompasses most small businesses which pay at the individual rate.
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l78lancer
Wisdom is the principal thing
02:25 PM on 04/16/2012
Apparently you have a lot of hate, but no clue. The whole discussion has moved from where you are.
02:58 AM on 04/17/2012
I can remember Bush in one of his speeches saying "this will help the small business owner". I was a small business owner. There was nothing that changed to help my taxes. You play the system and find every deduction you can. My business was my business . It had nothing to do with the goverment.
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FreeThinker in AZ
World traveler & Green Progressive
01:06 AM on 04/16/2012
We are not doing our offspring any favors if they inherent a country whose infrastructure is in disastrous condition.

They will not enjoy balanced budgets if that means living in a world of bad roads, dangerous bridges, failing sewer systems, questionable drinking water, and congested airports.

Future generations might also be thankful if we spend some money now on lessening the potentially disastrous impacts of climate change. Global warming is already beginning to do enormous harm with unusually intense droughts and floods.

If we do nothing now, the impacts on our children and grandchildren will be much more severe.
01:32 PM on 04/16/2012
No money. Having trouble paying the environmentalists gas price as it is! the environmentalists are crippling our economy with their mob boss mentality of their strong arm the EPA. No jobs, No money - the envronmentalist's unintended consequences to their utopian dream. Have a government job?