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Surveys On DREAM Act, Latinos Not 'Unscientific Push Polls', Pollsters Say

Posted: 04/20/2012 9:25 pm Updated: 04/20/2012 9:28 pm

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Is there support for a Marco Rubio-style DREAM Act?

Get out your salt shakers.

Two new polls from conservative organizations, the Hispanic Leadership Network, and the Libre Initiative, purport to show overwhelming Latino support for a Marco Rubio-style alternative to the DREAM Act and dissatisfaction with the country’s direction.

But polling experts said both are thinly disguised and unscientific “push polls” aimed at generating media coverage that distorts reality.

“Those are both 100 percent partisan push polls,” University of Washington political science associate professor Matt Barreto told The Huffington Post. “The question wording reveals to me that they already had an answer they wanted to get and they wanted to collect some data to show that it was true.”

The groups releasing the polls, however, defended their results and methodology.

“They weren’t at all leading questions,” Jose Mallea, a national coordinator with the Libre Initiative and former Florida director for Newt Gingrich’s campaign, told The Huffington Post. “The statement we asked them, when we asked if it’s a true statement, were not in any way slanted in one way or another. We asked the position statement as we thought they were best represented in an unbiased manner and then asked them to choose.”

Independent pollsters and academics, however, questioned the objectivity and scientific technique of the pair of polls from the Republican-leaning Libre and the conservative HLN co-founded by former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush.

“This is a pretty standard practice of cherry-picking from legitimate results to tell a partisan ideological story,” Southeast Missouri State University political science professor emeritus Russell Renka told The Huffington Post. “It’s designed to promote a conservative point of view and of course it does. They can always use these kinds of things to kind of back up their particular version of events.”

The more recent of the two, a survey of 1,000 likely voters released Thursday by HLN, found that a “substantial majority of Republican, independent, Democratic and Hispanic voters nationally favor an alternative to the DREAM Act that allows children of undocumented immigrants to earn legal status with a work visa and no chain migration, over a version that provides permanent residency status leading to citizenship and includes chain migration,” according to a press release.

Conducted by the Republican-leaning firm North Star Opinion, the HLN poll showed support of “55 to 32 percent, including 58 to 24 percent among Republicans, 57 to 33 percent among Independents, 52 to 39 percent among Democrats, and 57 to 33 percent among Hispanics.”

Florida Sen. Rubio this month began floating the idea for a Republican DREAM Act which would allow children of undocumented immigrants to acquire a non-immigrant visa permitting them to stay in the country while they apply for residency and, eventually, citizenship. It stops short of a Democratic-backed DREAM Act which would offer citizenship to those children who completed two years of college or military service.

“It’s a non-immigrant visa, so it doesn’t put them on a path in and of itself to residency and then citizenship,” he told McClatchy Newspapers. “But it does legalize their status, it wipes out any of these immigration penalties that they might be facing, and it allows them to go on with their lives with some level of certainty.”

As the poll was released Thursday, Rubio gathered reporters in his Capitol office to push for support within the GOP for his proposal.

His plan has elicited only a cautious response from Mitt Romney’s campaign. “Governor Romney will study and consider any proposals on immigration from his Republican partners,” Andrea Saul, a campaign spokeswoman, told the New York Times. “We must work together on protecting and strengthening legal immigration, securing our borders, ending illegal immigration in a civil but resolute manner, and ensuring that any reforms do not encourage further illegal immigration.”

The HLN’s executive director, Jennifer Korn, however, told The Huffington Post that the poll served to show both parties that voters strongly support a Rubio-style solution, but shy away from the full-citizenship option of existing DREAM Act language.

“We want to help these children because it’s not fair that they’ve been brought here,” said Korn, “but at the same time jumping to the front of the line when people are waiting in line doesn’t seem fair. So this seems like a good solution.”

Renka, however, told The Huffington Post that the poll’s results were misleading.

“If you’ve got a Jeb Bush organization,” he said, “they’re going to naturally put forward that portion of poll information that looks like it supports Republicans’ actions, not Democrats’ actions in Congress on the immigration issue or other concerns of the Hispanic citizens, and that’s what they’ve done.”

“They’re trying to get a discussion going,” said Barreto, “that there is support for the fake-DREAM Act. And so by demonstrating that they asked the public if they liked the idea and some people say yes, they can try to spin that and maybe get some folks to start pushing that issue.”

The HLN poll comes on the heels of one conducted in March by the Libre Initiative, a months-old organization headed by a former Bush administration White House staffer, Daniel Garza. The poll, conducted March 13-19 by the Tarrance Group, asked 500 likely Hispanic voters across the nation their feelings about the economy and big government, among other things.

According to a press release announcing the results, “51% of Latinos said things in the U.S. are off on the wrong track, while just 40% say things are moving in the right direction.”

It also found that Hispanics are “highly pessimistic” that their children will be “better off financially,” and that 56 percent believed that “less rather than more government involvement” would be better.

But Gary Segura, a Stanford University political science professor and Barreto’s partner in the non-partisan Latino Decisions polling firm, said both polls are part of the GOP’s national initiative aimed at reducing President Barack Obama’s overwhelming support among Latino voters.

“Essentially what they’re trying to do is stop this narrative which says that Gov. Romney has this huge problem among Hispanics and that there’s very little he can do to turn it around, given all the things that he’s said,” Segura told The Huffington Post.

Most recent national polls, including the Libre Initiative’s show Obama leading Romney by a wide margin. In a recent Fox News Latino/Latin Insights poll, likely Hispanic voters said they favored Obama by a margin of 70 percent to 14 over Romney. Libre Initiative’s put Obama’s lead at 60 percent to 31 percent over an unnamed Republican nominee.

Both Romney and the GOP recognize the importance of the Latino vote. This month, the Republican National Committee launched a Hispanic outreach initiative in six key swing states, to try to close the gap.

Romney put it in no uncertain terms. At a fundraiser in Palm Beach, Fla., over the weekend, he said the polling gap “spells doom for us.” “We have to get Hispanic voters to vote for our party,” he said, and suggested a "Republican DREAM Act" might be the way to do it.

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  • Fermin Vasquez

    Fermin Vasquez serves as the statewide Communications Coordinator for Californians for Justice. One of Los Angeles' youngest emerging Latino leaders, Fermin was a Front Line Leaders Academy Fellow with the People for the American Way Foundation, based in Washington D.C. In 2010, Fermin became the first one in his family to graduate from college, and received his degree in Political Science from California State University, Los Angeles. He was also a founding member and President of Students United to Reach Goals in Education (S.U.R.G.E.), a support and advocacy organization for those that may not have come here with the right papers, but have been raised with the right values. He is a contributor to the HuffPost LatinoVoices <em>DREAMers Blog Series</em>, and his posts can be read <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/fermin-vasquez" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Laura E. Enriquez

    Laura E. Enriquez is a doctoral candidate in sociology at the University of California, Los Angeles where she does research on the experiences of undocumented young adults. She is a dedicated scholar-activist and specializes in immigration, race/ethnicity, and gender. She has been mentoring, teaching, and organizing with undocumented young adults for the past five years. She is a contributor to the HuffPost LatinoVoices <em>DREAMers Blog Series</em>, and her posts can be read <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/laura-e-enriquez" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Fernando Romero

    Fernando Romero is the Coordinator for the Justice for Immigrants Coalition of Inland Southern California; he is also a co-founding member of <a href="http://dreamersadrift.com/" target="_hplink">Dreamers Adrift</a>, a new media project for undocumented students, by undocumented students. He is a contributor to the HuffPost LatinoVoices <em>DREAMers Blog Series</em>, and his posts can be read <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/fernando-romero" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Alma Castrejon

    Alma Castrejon was born in Mexico City and came to the United States at the age of seven. In 2008, she graduated from UC Riverside with B.A. degrees in Political Science - International Relations and Chicano Studies. While at UCR she founded Providing Opportunities, Dreams and Education in Riverside (PODER), a support group for undocumented students on campus. In 2011, Alma received her Master of Arts degree in Education at CSU Long Beach. She has been a member of Dream Team Los Angeles (DTLA), a community and student group that advocates for undocumented student rights and immigrant rights, since 2009; she is also an active member of Graduates Reaching a Dream Deferred (GRADD), a group of undocumented graduate students that addresses the needs of immigrant students interested in pursuing graduate education. Alma will be applying to law school in the fall of 2012. She is a contributor to the HuffPost LatinoVoices <em>DREAMers Blog Series</em>, and her posts can be read <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alma-castrejon" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Juan Escalante

    Juan Escalante is an undocumented student and recent graduate from Florida State University. He is a core-member of <a href="http://www.dreamactivist.org/" target="_hplink">DreamActivist.org</a> and the founder of <a href="http://dreamactivistfl.org/" target="_hplink">DreamActivistFL.org</a>; both are online organizations that provide resources for undocumented students across the country. He is a contributor to the HuffPost LatinoVoices <em>DREAMers Blog Series</em>, and his posts can be read <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/juan-escalante" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Nancy Meza

    Nancy Meza is a human being from Jalisco, Mexico. She was brought to the U.S. by her responsible and courageous mother at the age of two and proudly grew up in East Los Angeles California. She is a graduate of Theodore Roosevelt High School in Boyle Heights. After High School she attended East Los Angeles Community College and transferred to UCLA where she became actively involved in organizing around undocumented and immigrant rights issues with IDEAS at UCLA and Dream Team Los Angeles. She graduated with a degree in Chicana/o Studies and a Labor and Work Place Studies minor in 2010. She is currently an intern at the Dream Resource Center; a project out of the UCLA Labor Center and continues to organize with Dream Team Los Angeles where she is a member of the media and communications team. She is a contributor to the HuffPost LatinoVoices <em>DREAMers Blog Series</em>, and her posts can be read <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nancy-meza" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Erick Huerta

    Erick Huerta is majoring in journalism at East Los Angeles College. As a member of Dream Team Los Angeles, he is one of the coordinators handling the group's communications and social media endeavors. He has lived in the U.S. for the past 20 years and has been chronicling his personal experiences as an undocumented resident for the last eight years on his personal <a href="www.justarandomhero.blogspot.com" target="_hplink">blog</a>. He's also a community reporter for the community of Boyle Heights and an avid cyclist. He can be recognized by his trademark bigotes. He is a contributor to the HuffPost LatinoVoices <em>DREAMers Blog Series</em>, and his posts can be read <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/erick-huerta" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Jonathan Perez

    Jonathan Perez is a queer undocumented political exile from Colombia, and a Co-Founder of the Immigrant Youth Coalition in Southern California. On why he contributes to the series, he writes, "It is shocking to most, but I don't actually advocate for the DREAM Act. I organize for the rights of undocumented immigrants. I believe that in order to have meaningful changes we must first address the root causes. In order to change our realities we have to build a global movement and a global revolution. I write for the Huffington Post <em>DREAMers Blog Series</em> because it gives me the opportunity to give a different perspective to what the issues of undocumented people are." You can read his posts <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-perez" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Mayra Hidalgo Salazar

    Originally from Naranjo, Alajuela, Costa Rica, Mayra immigrated to the United States with her family when she was 6-months-old. She is undocumented and has dedicated her life to the immigrant movement in Florida. She lives in Lakeland, Florida where she is an organizer for Students Working for Equal Rights (SWER), a grassroots organization founded by undocumented immigrant youth in Florida. She also serves on the Florida Immigrant Coalition (FLIC) and United We DREAM (UWD) Board of Directors. She helped start an immigration legal clinic that offers free legal immigration consultation to low-income immigrants in her community and serves as the Clinic Coordinator. She also serves as the Migrant Scholar Advocate for Scaffold the Scholar, a professional development initiative for former farm-worker women working in early childhood education and is a member of the Polk County School Board Diversity Council. She was a project manager for the Trail of Dreams campaign in 2010, a 1,500 walk from Miami, FL to Washington, D.C., demanding that President Obama stop the deportation of undocumented students. Currently a undergraduate college student, she aspires to eventually earn a law degree specializing in immigration law so she can continue to serve the community that taught her to persevere against all odds.

  • Jesus Cortez

    Jesus Cortez is an undocumented graduate student at the California State University, Long Beach College of Education. He grew up in Anaheim, California and is a member of the Orange County Dream Team. He is a contributor to the <em>DREAMers Blog Series</em>, and his posts can be read <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jesus-cortez" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Angy Rivera

    Angy Rivera is a Colombian-born, New York-raised undocumented immigrant who started the first undocumented youth advice column, Ask Angy, while a core member at the New York State Youth Leadership Council. She also blogs for DreamActivist.org.

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11:04 AM on 04/25/2012
I see poll manipulation all the time. Especially with some polls like Gallup. During the "ObamaCare" Congressional mess I was polled once and the question was like this. "Do you fear your Medicare coverage will suffer because of the 500 Billion dollars being taken from the system?".

Notice how that is worded..."Taken from the system", instead of what it actually is..."taken from the Medicare Advantage 3rd party for-profit insurance companies that offer very little in additional services."

Or, they could have skewed it the other way by phrasing the same question as "Do you think the re-allocation of 500 Billion dollars that would normally have been wasted on big insurance corporations will help the rest of the Medicare system run more efficiently with less money wasted on private insurance CEO bonuses?"

See how the game is played?
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12:39 PM on 04/23/2012
Movie line- How is it that Rep who loves this nation so much and will yell at the top of their lungs that they do, Hate Americans!!!!!!!!!!! BLack folks and the Rep Party- Hispanic America's and the cheap Labor, are to be used by the Rep Party- Poor White Men& Women who vote against their interrest. Hate seems to be a great tool to have in your tool belt when you need to divide Americans.
05:14 PM on 04/22/2012
Hey Libs, why do so many people try to sneak into this country that you seem to hate so much?
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Mark Hutchings
07:30 PM on 04/22/2012
Sponge, you REALLY need to stop listening to Rush Limbaugh and Faux News. It's the only way you could be recieveing information that leads you to even suggest that "libs" hate the United States. If anything we're doing everything to protect our Democratic way of life from people like you...the naysayers who would have people believing that the world "will end" if the President is re-elected. The only evidence of something like that occurred during the last term of YOUR last elected President: two wars (one illegal); the destruction of our housing market; and then the collapse of our economy all on a REPUBLICAN's watch. And then you come in here and claim "libs" seem to hate "this country"??? Man, you got nerve. No BRAINS, but definitely nerve.
01:02 AM on 04/23/2012
Never listen to or watch them. Now what?
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05:20 PM on 04/23/2012
You are out of touch.
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freedom1947
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10:08 PM on 04/22/2012
They come here to take your specific job.
11:14 AM on 04/22/2012
Push polls only work on those who don't recognize them for the disguised propaganda they are...the uneducated and the senile, two groups the GOP actively courts.
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11:07 AM on 04/25/2012
You can save yourself typing and just say the court the South which generally meets both criteria.
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10:15 AM on 04/22/2012
Wouldn't his opinion simply be a "push" response to a poll that might or might not be accurate. I live in Chatham Illinois which is somewhat affluent and mostly white, any poll taken here would strongly support removing Chicago from the rest of state. If you like the current politics in Illinois you might not like reading that Chicago politics are not popular. You would then make a statement that this was a poll that misleads other whites to think Chicago isnt popular. These polls are hokum and never without errors. If you want a litmus test wait until Nov.
10:49 AM on 04/22/2012
big cities are always different from the reest of the state and there's nothing more corrupt than a small town.
everyone who lives in a small town knows that.
09:43 AM on 04/22/2012
He is the minimum wage king trying to destroy unions and backs the Ryan plan that damages medicare and the elderly. Republicans are a bunch of bigots that you cannot trust. Especially Mitt Romney who will tell you one thing and do another. Mr. Flip Fllopper etch a sketch guy. He will tell you he supports the dream act knowing full well that most Republicans in the house and senate will vote against it and the bill will not pass.
09:43 AM on 04/22/2012
I know they are now trying to fool Latinos by having Marco Rubio craft some new lame version of the dream act. It is not sincere and just political pandering that is trying to help them win the election. Once the Republicans win elections they can implement even more disgusting laws that affect the majority of Latinos.
Also Romney does not create jobs he destroys them. He ships them overseas for cheap wage labor and tries to keep jobs a minimum wage while he makes record profits. He could careless about the American worker. He claims to have created 100,000 jobs but he didn't tell you that 90% of them were minimum wage jobs. Staples, Dominoes, and Sports authority to name a few places he invested in.
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01:50 PM on 04/22/2012
That's right, keep telling everyone you know. We don't have to like everything about a pres. but we do have to have one that will put the rights of the people before the almighty dollar. None of those in the repub. are going to do that because they sold out years ago. Don't let our friends be mislead by they're rhetoric. they'll say anything just to get more power, then go on with their business of personal wealth and glorify themselves with the favors they'll grant for all those that shutup and take the money.
09:43 AM on 04/22/2012
Mexicans, Central Americans and South Americans have been affected by the unjust illegal immigration laws that target hispanic/Latinos unfairly and basically wages war against them. It has affected peoples mothers, fathers, some children, family members and friends. It is personal and it will not be forgotten.
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iuriggs6
Sure thing. Shoot, Timmy.
11:06 AM on 04/22/2012
How are our immigration laws unjust and illegal? By unjust do you mean, deporting people that do not belong here? The United States admits over one million new citizens per year and the majority of those new citizens are from Mexico.
05:13 PM on 04/22/2012
What a preposterous statement
09:42 AM on 04/22/2012
Puerto Ricans are not going to forget that Republicans voted against Supreme court justice Sonia Soto Mayor. Even Latino Cuban Marco Rubio opposed her nomination and voted against her. Cubans are just alienating the other Hispanic/Latinos and when they speak to the other Latino factions they will be ignored.
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05:28 PM on 04/23/2012
They voted against her because they did not feel she was qualified for the position. You may find this hard to believe but voting is not to be decided by the color of ones skin or weather they are part cuban or puerto rican. stop with the racial divide.
09:40 AM on 04/22/2012
This is ludicrous, and underscores the desperation of the GOP.

Conjuring up bogus polls to tell Hispanics that they should blame the poor economy only on Obama, and that Romney was just kidding when he asserted in the debates that the Arizona papers please immigration plan should be a model for all of the U.S., and that Romney was just kidding when he said he opposed the "Dream Act, and that Romney was just kidding when he said Hispanics should "self-deport".

Anyway, since minorities, including Hispanics are more adversely affected by the bleak jobs picture than are white Americans, why would Hispanics vote for a political party(GOP Ryan plan)that guts the very programs(social safety net and foodstamp, college tuition aid, etc)that are so necessary to them, and to other Americans, during these difficult economic times that had their origin in the prior administration?

I don't think the GOP is able to fool that many Hispanics between now and election day.
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KMoore4318
Sarcasm/Satire; Google it !!!
08:35 AM on 04/22/2012
So you had a dream, But the government turned it into a night mare; The national debt 16 trillion, want you sighn up to assume your part. ( about $50 thousand ) : eventualy they will build a fence on the border, but it will be to keep people here.
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PiratesForObama
Arrr Vote Dem Or we make Ye walk the plank !!!
07:55 AM on 04/22/2012
Q ~ Do you believe the BlackMaomaoSocialistMarxistCommunistISTISTIST President is a secret MachurianPlantAgentOfDestruction that is going to take yourGuns, andBibles and any smallChildren Laying around.?

A ~ Absolutely
B ~ I completely agree withClusterfaux
C ~ What , why wasn'tMuslim in the question
D ~ ^All of the above^

Then chances are you are being polledBy aRepubIibagger. ( or one that is paying for the poll )
09:46 AM on 04/22/2012
Good one.

Did you see on Rachel Maddow her spoof on why Obama has not yet seized our guns?

It is all a ploy that he did not seize our guns in his first term, you see, to fool us.

He is just trying to fool us, and his next term will be the one where he seizes all our guns.

So he is fooling us into thinking he won't seize our guns.....by not seizing our guns.

He is just setting us up.

This Obama is brilliant, I tells ya.
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05:36 PM on 04/23/2012
it's not that he's not trying. he just hasn't been able to do so.
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ProudToBeVeryLiberal
Science is the antidote to the poison of religion
06:00 PM on 04/22/2012
LOL, that's pretty much how it works...
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JB frm NC
"And who is my neighbor?"
07:26 AM on 04/22/2012
Very simple rule. If they do not give access to the questions and the order in which they were asked, then it is worthless as a gauge of public opinion.

People who are accused of conducting a push poll who do not give access to the survey instrument are most likely protecting a push poll.

The poll then should not be the story. The story becomes who paid to poison public opinion, and why.
06:37 AM on 04/22/2012
The free ride for illegal aliens HAS TO END somewhere. Americans are sick and tired of paying for their existence through ENTITLEMENTS in this country. Take responsibility for YOURSELF. GET A JOB in Mexico.
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vuduvampirninjawitch
Scary yes, but I got you covered
06:17 AM on 04/22/2012
Give this poll some time.

If it is a trend away from obama and the democrats among Latins, we will know in a few more weeks.

It may be a little early to try and spin this data.
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JB frm NC
"And who is my neighbor?"
07:57 AM on 04/22/2012
Yeah, look how well something as insane as a phony birth certificate "question" just needed some time.

We don't need to give a poll time. Either it is an accurate snapshot or not. Push polling is a very simple technique, and immediately recognized. Let us see the poll (as almost all reputable polling firms do).

Then, and only then can we wonder if it is a trend or a cynical distraction.