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Debt Collection Agents Working At Hospitals Under Fire For Aggressive Tactics And Privacy Breach

The Huffington Post  |  By Posted: 04/24/2012 3:56 pm Updated: 04/24/2012 4:48 pm

Hospital Debt Collectors

Next time you're at the hospital, be on notice: The person taking down your information and admitting you for treatment might not be a hospital employee but a staffer from a debt-collection agency.

Minnesota Attorney General Lori Swanson filed suit against a debt-collection agency called Accretive Health in January after an employee left a laptop containing personal information about for 23,500 patients in a rental car last July. Swanson's lawsuit alleges that Accretive Health's access to patient records violates federal privacy laws.

The case brings attention to the little-known practice of hospital companies embedding debt collectors in their facilities, the New York Times reports.

Americans are being subject to increasingly harsh tactics by debt collectors seeking to recoup money for their clients by using tactics including threats, insults and lies, recent research shows. Lisa Lindsay, an Illinois woman recovering from breast cancer, endured an arrest and a brief stay in jail over an unpaid $280 hospital bill that wasn't even hers.

Hospitals are under increasing financial pressure as health care costs escalate and payment rates from Medicare, Medicaid and private health insurance companies become smaller. And largely because of a decades-old federal law requiring hospitals to provide emergency medical care to anyone, regardless of their ability to pay, hospitals take on tens of billions of dollars in bad debt each year. In 2010, hospitals were stuck with $39.3 billion in unpaid bills, which amounted to 5.6 percent of their total expenses, according to the American Hospital Association.

Cash-hungry hospitals aren't the only obstacle to patients' getting the health care they need. Health insurance premiums continue to rise even as benefits get more meager, joblessness and the sluggish economy are causing many Americans to go without medical care or become uninsured, and the size of hospital bills themselves can be impossible to predict.

Anxiety about dollars and cents has driven hospitals into the arms of aggressive debt collectors, according to the Times:

As a growing number of hospitals struggle under a glut of unpaid bills, they are turning to companies like Accretive. To win promised savings, all hospitals have to do is turn over the management of their front-line staffing -- ranging from patient registration to scheduling and billing -- and their back-office collection activities. Accretive says it has such arrangements with some of the country’s largest hospital systems to help reduce their costs.

Accretive Health works with dozens of U.S. hospitals, including Fairview Health Services and North Memorial Health Care in Minnesota, according to the Times and a press release from Swanson's office. Debt collectors are instructed to ask patients for credit cards or checks when they arrive at an emergency room seeking treatment, the Times reports.

Hospitals across the U.S. are trying new methods of avoiding unpaid bills. HCA, the largest for-profit hospital chain, and other companies have started demanding upfront payments as high as $350 from people in emergency rooms, Kaiser Health News reported in February. In 2011, about 80,000 people walked out of HCA emergency rooms before getting any medical care because of the company's $150 fee, according to Kaiser Health News.

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Next time you're at the hospital, be on notice: The person taking down your information and admitting you for treatment might not be a hospital employee but a staffer from a debt-collection agency. ...
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12:26 PM on 05/12/2012
We need a forum where people exchange valid experiences regarding insurance plans, hospitals and doctors. That way when buying insurance we can make a decision based on quality. On hospitals, I don't know there is a supposed watchdog on hospitals but when I wrote to them regarding this hospital that removed a catheter from a man before deflating it and caused him 3 more days in the hospital, nothing happened. There is NO accountablity, No watchdog, we are on our own when we get sick.
12:22 PM on 05/12/2012
The hospital with the subcontracted doctor that nearly killed my husband has shown a record profit over 5 years, yet the nurses have not had a raise in 3 years. New buildings going up with this hospital's name, but cutting pay for the workers. Their blood pressure machines didn't work right, the beds were broken, my husband tried to fix his with the plastic knife. This in Texas, with Perry saying what wonderful healthcare we have. BS !

But in Georgia a friend told me of their surgery for cancer, again underfunded help, the beds were awful, no basic soap and wash cloths so a patient could even clean themselves. Forget about cleaning the room over 5 days. Things are TERRIBLE IN UNITED STATES HEALTH CARE. But they sure know how to pad and send those bills for payment.
12:16 PM on 05/12/2012
Those of you hating Affordable Care Law, need to have some of the issues the rest of us have had. How about signing for an Advantage Care Plan only to be told by 3 doctors, they don't have to follow the contract with Medicare rules that they signed . We need Medicare for all, with standard rules and costs. Exactly right is the comment that everyone is charged differently. Since Hospitals have become private they cut costs and care.
12:13 PM on 05/12/2012
My husband had perforated divirticulitus, we presented ability to pay but the "collector" was incensed when my husband was taken for a CT scan before he had signed more paperwork. He told her, " I don't even know what I am signing with the pain I am in." Didn't matter.
We found this hospital even sub contracts doctors to see patients after admission. This doctor, stated, " I don't know what to do about your problem." The next, a trauma surgeon, diagnosed, changed medication, placed orders and had my husband in less pain, in 20 minutes. My husband could have died with the subcontract doctor's care.
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spunkyphd
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03:54 AM on 05/04/2012
It's very difficult to feel any sympathy for a hospital when they charge people without insurance more(much more) for the exact same procedures, use of rooms, drugs etc. Then profess "surprise that a cash person doesn't have enough money to pay the outlandash extortion fees. Hospitals need to start posting their fees for everything and doctors their prices for surgery so people can shop around and know ahead of time which hospital to go to for emergencies. So when they say they are owed over 39. billion I don't believe that number, it is inflated by their fake numbers game. Clean up the hospitals--post prices.
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ThinkinPerson
07:16 PM on 05/03/2012
What a jolly mess we have here. I say prayers for those who have been turned away. I know what that is like, how soul crushing and hopeless on can feel.

I just can't believe this is the system put together by intelligence, 'civilized' minds. With the cash collector replacing medicine, some 'unpaid' bills - man, those medical companies and insurance providers are making buck! its very sad our country has so little respect for anything any more.

Well, pillage on!
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04:52 PM on 04/26/2012
We need stronger consumer protection laws. It is wrong for collection or debt collectors to be able to buy debt from a company even though the company wrote off that debt and already received compensation for it on their taxes. In addition the consumer had the debt listed on their credit report as unpaid and it remains like that for 7-10 years. These debt collectors come along and threaten and demand payment even though the damage has already been done to a person's credit report. Why should a person pay this debt at this point? It's not right that these companies can continue to sell these debts as if they are trading commodities. These companies are predators and they need to be forced to stop!
robync62
A simple woman, doin the best she can...
01:02 PM on 04/26/2012
If I go to the emergency room and sit down at an intake window and that person uses the information I give, in order to be seen by a doctor, for some other reason; that is a breach of confidentiality between me and the hospital and hospitals are opening themselves up to lawsuits. They probably don't care because in the long run it will make them more money.
09:29 AM on 04/26/2012
That 39.3 Billion that hospitals got stuck with is a somewhat inflated number.

If you have insurance, and you look at the EOBs (explanation of benefits) the company sends you, you will see that on average the amount allowed (what the doctor or Hospital actually gets paid) is about 1/2 what they billed.

That is enough for the doctor of hospital to live on. It even includes a little to cover that 5.6% bad debt.

The larger number charged cash patients inflates the bad debt when it does not get paid.
12:42 AM on 04/26/2012
My insurance was charged with $795 for a 2 minute interview by a DR. A medicine I'm supposed to take, but can't afford, is over $600 for 30 pills, co-pay is $160. It's hard to believe that these prices are justified. I think rather it's more about constantly expecting profits to rise, and not so much that it's reflecting a rise in production costs.
08:37 PM on 04/25/2012
Single payer health care. Cut out the middle men insurance that has only profit in mind. Everybody pays in (some exceptions for poverty) and everybody uses it...eventually. Costs and efficiencies do need to be improved and what comes to mind initially are some specialties and lab costs. Also, for example, crutches and cast boots from the hospital do not cost the several hundred dollars they attempt to charge.
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spunkyphd
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04:13 AM on 05/04/2012
Goodwill is a great place to look for second hand wheelchairs, canes, crutches, and other temporarily needed medical equipment. Check it over meticulously and make sure it is sound, sanitize it and you have saved a bundle for something that works just as well. I go there all the time to look for art supplies and always see a collection of medical items. When I needed crutches, thats where I went and got a cool purple, adjustable, like new, top of the line pair for $7.50.
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rottnkid
Do as I say, not as I do-Oh wait that's the 1%
08:00 PM on 04/25/2012
I work for a medical firm and what the Docs do for our patients is LITERALLY life saving work. I have called patients on their delinquent accounts. If you have no insurance we do a "self pay" discount which mirrors what Medicare would pay us, including write offs. On top of that, you can pay in installments. My company will work with you no matter the amount you owe. We have and use a collection agency after we exhausted other means. That being said, if a patients calls our practice directly AFTER the collection agency contacts them 1. We will pull them back out of collections give them the same options as if they were newly delinquent and 2. If you need to be seen, we will see you as if your a patient with insurance WITH a delinquent account. Sounds to good to be true but we don't turn anyone away and we will never hold your past due balance against your well being.

I work for a great company.
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catz1515
09:25 PM on 04/25/2012
how much does the CEO make?
robync62
A simple woman, doin the best she can...
01:04 PM on 04/26/2012
I would hope that your company's policies would be the norm not the exception.
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rottnkid
Do as I say, not as I do-Oh wait that's the 1%
06:51 AM on 04/27/2012
One would think.
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lrobb
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05:10 PM on 04/25/2012
I have always advocated that hospital emergency rooms must post a large sign in a prominent place with the information you may not be denied care because of inability to pay. That would put them on par with most businesses which are required to post all kinds of government mandated noticed in employee break rooms about employee rights.

Let me state up front that I am a Conservative--and a landlord. If I had $100 for every time a tenant said they couldn't pay their rent because their kid had to go to the emergency room and the hospital demanded payment on the spot I wouldn't have a 15% vacancy.

If a tenant fails to pay their rent they can be legally evicted--in about 15 days in my state. Your lights get turned off if you don't pay your electric bill. You water gets shut off if you don't pay the city for water. If you don't pay for gas at the pump your car gets garaged. However, if a patient can't pay their bill nothing happens. So which bill should my tenant have paid?
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medicontheedge
big loud broad
06:14 PM on 04/25/2012
They already do...unless they are a PRIVATE, for profit that gets no monies from medicaid, medicare, etc..... It is posted everywhere, and we really DO abide by it.
Your tenants are bull shorting you.
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MSROADKILL612
love auto biographys. any appS to write mine?
03:05 PM on 04/25/2012
Lets not forget drug companies have been allowed to run riot also.
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chatnuptime1
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03:41 PM on 04/25/2012
This is what happens when you let corporations have the upper hand. Pretty soon bribes just to get a doctor to look at you will be the order of the day. Every man for himself and price out to the highest bidder. Money talks and human worth is evaluated by how much you have. So goes the way of captialism and social darwinism.
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MSROADKILL612
love auto biographys. any appS to write mine?
03:01 PM on 04/25/2012
Am starting to wonder who the guy behind the screen in the confessional is.
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chatnuptime1
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03:44 PM on 04/25/2012
You will know when he asked you to pay your tithe before the confession...
It will go something like this.
Bless me Father for I have sinned.
Will you be paying by check, cash or credit card?
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MSROADKILL612
love auto biographys. any appS to write mine?
03:54 PM on 04/25/2012
They used to have tithing police to beat it out of you.