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ISAF Spokesman Responds To Departing American General's Criticism Of Pakistan

Posted: 04/24/2012 9:37 am

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U.S. Marine Maj. Gen. John Toolan, the NATO commander in charge of Helmand and Nimroz provinces, speaks during an interview on April 29, 2011 (AP Photo/Solomon Moore)

KABUL, Afghanistan -- A spokesman for the international coalition of forces in Afghanistan sought to create some distance on Tuesday from the remarks of a departing American general, who sternly criticized Pakistan for failing to cooperate on border security earlier in the week.

"ISAF is very pleased that talks and negotiations in the tripartite setup between Afghanistan, Pakistan and the international community are back to nearly normal speed, on all levels, from lowest control on the border, up to the level of [force commander] General [John] Allen," the spokesman, German Army Brig. Gen. Carsten Jacobson, told reporters at a weekly press conference at the headquarters of the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in Kabul. "On the tactical level communication [between the U.S. and Pakistan] has never stopped."

The spokesman's remarks come one day after Maj. Gen. John Toolan, who until last month was the top commander of international forces in Afghanistan's violent southwestern Helmand Province, faulted Pakistan for failing to take any action to stop the flow of drugs and militants across the border.

“I know for a fact that drugs are moving out [of Afghanistan] through Pakistan and lethal aid is coming in on a regular basis,” Toolan said in a speech on Monday at the Atlantic Council, in Washington, D.C.

“Unfortunately, from my perspective as a tactical commander in Regional Command Southwest, I have had no support" from the Pakistani brigades in the area, he added.

In November, Pakistani officials cut off formal communication with the U.S. military after an errant coalition airstrike killed 24 Pakistani soldiers who were mistaken for militants. On Tuesday, Jacobson suggested that a lack of bilateral coordination may have contributed to the incident, but that "even in the critical months of November and December" some forms of communication never stopped.

Pressed on whether ISAF concurred with Toolan's assessment of "no support" from the Pakistani military, Jacobson replied, "I will not analyze General Toolan's comments. We do have cooperation along the border and had cooperation along the border throughout."

Relations between the US and Pakistan have reached a low point in recent months over the foreign military presence in Afghanistan, and over increasingly vocal American charges that the Pakistanis have helped fuel militant extremism in the region. In a speech last month, General Allen accused Pakistan's intelligence services of having direct links to "a number of" militant groups that have played a role in destabilizing Afghanistan.

Jacobson did say he agreed with Toolan that more assistance from the Pakistanis would be welcome.

"This has been stated very much, over months, about operations in the entire border area, stretching on its entire length, in sometimes very complicated terrain and in the necessity of Afghan security forces, Pakistani security forces, and ISAF pulling on the same string and fighting, at the end, the same enemy," Jacobson said.

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06:46 AM on 04/25/2012
“I know for a fact that drugs are moving out [of Afghanistan] through Pakistan and lethal aid is coming in on a regular basis,” same can be said

“I know for a fact that drugs are moving out [of Mexico] to USA and lethal aid is coming in on a regular basis,”
06:08 AM on 04/25/2012
"Relations between the US and Pakistan have reached a low point in recent months over the foreign military presence in Afghanistan, and over increasingly vocal American charges that the Pakistanis have helped fuel militant extremism in the region."

No attribution of this to drones killing civilians in P@k|$tan? Figures, they don't count. That much is apparent from military actions since the beginning of this war of terror...
12:18 AM on 04/25/2012
One problem I've seen is that all these generals at the very top think that they are ambassadors and diplomats. Perhaps they ought to go back to West Point, Annapolis, and the Air Force Academy to get their education again; this time right. They are military and not diplomats. The real generals and colonels are the ones that critique the war effort to get it right. They are also the ones that are sent home and have to retire from active duty. The generals and colonels with the boyish haircuts and phony grins want to walk around the State Department shaking hands. They think that because Eisenhower had to do it, they should do it too. Well, they are not Eisenhower, and Afghanistan is not France or England. Keep it straight. Military is military. Diplomats are diplomats. Get your head screwed on straight..
10:59 PM on 04/24/2012
You want the tooth......you can't handle the tooth.
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06:29 PM on 04/24/2012
Obviously, he had to wait to retire, to speak the truth.
Very politically correct general...
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yoyodyne666
Just here to spool you up.
02:23 AM on 04/25/2012
For military officers, the military is all about politics.
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BrutusHonestus
Don't Ask Me for the Answer You Want to Hear
05:50 PM on 04/24/2012
Ah, once again reminding us all what a colossally stupid decision George W Bush made

. . . when he decided it was a good idea to invade Afghanistan because he wanted the Taliban to turn over Osama bin Laden alive for trial in the USA and the Taliban would not turn bin laden over
09:10 PM on 04/24/2012
BrutusDumbus
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05:56 AM on 04/25/2012
actually they did offer bin laden over in 2001

search historycommons.org and then taliban and look for october 2001 entries

it mentions the names of the people involved
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AlfredE69
Liberty Lovin' Tree Hugger
05:39 PM on 04/24/2012
It's way past time to remove our solders from those countries and end all foreign aid. You want money, get a job.
12:19 AM on 04/25/2012
Oh yeah. Because people all over the world are capitalists and have access to a limited free market.
04:46 PM on 04/24/2012
aw come on... Pakistan doesn't even know what's going on in Pakistan and Pakistan wouldn't trust Pakistan.
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05:13 PM on 04/24/2012
CIVIL WAR IS SO MUCH FUN - ADD A FOREIGN FIGHTER WITH RADICAL CHRISTIAN IDEAS ----JOY
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04:29 PM on 04/24/2012
he should run for president not romney
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06:21 PM on 04/24/2012
and I will be running out of the country....
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no dash american
the real 1% ers are combat veterans
04:19 PM on 04/24/2012
It is not in Pakistan's interest to have a stable Afghanistan, if that were to happen the US would pull out faster and then the $$$$ would stop flowing. They just keep the pot on simmer and throw a little stuff India's way every few years to keep them on their toes as well, they know India cannot retaliate with the US in the area.
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06:00 AM on 04/25/2012
actually pakistan has had a refugee problem for over 20 years prior to 2001.
UNHCR was giving $1 per refugee per year to manage the refugees from afghanistan.
there were about 5 million refugees.
Pakistan wants a stable afghanistan.
Part of what happened after usa won its proxy war against ussr was that there was a power vacuum and the war lords divided up the country.
As bad as the taliban are they are better than the war lords.
when the war lords were in power then you had to pay money over and over again to get goods from one side of the country to the other.
do a little reading and find out what a mess afghanistan is all thanks to american intervention back in 1980s.
Afghanistan was probably better off under the soviets.
04:06 PM on 04/24/2012
Pakistan is a lot like the Republican Congress - you cannot criticize either for their intransigence because it upsets them so.
04:00 PM on 04/24/2012
India knows pakistan better than anyone....support india, and the hell with pakishit
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05:14 PM on 04/24/2012
TOO LATE WE GAVE THEM NUKES AND TOOL LATE: THE WAR WE CREATED IS THE WAR THEY LIVE WTIH
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06:02 AM on 04/25/2012
usa never gave pakistan nukes.
search a.q. khan
he gave pakistan the nukes and then sold the technology on.
for domestic nuclear technology you can thank dubya for giving it to the indians, who have then turned around and said they will buy iranian oil with gold in order to by pass us sanctions.
next?
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06:25 PM on 04/25/2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Qadeer_Khan

aq khan sold nuclear technology to North Korea, Iran and Libya
10:04 PM on 04/24/2012
and Pakistan knows hindushit better than anyone else!
03:58 PM on 04/24/2012
pakistan is a dump....and morally broke...nothing good come out of there...another failed muslim society....
07:33 AM on 04/25/2012
Should have stopped at "There"... Lest people think of you as some sort of bigot.
03:57 PM on 04/24/2012
In addition to Karzai,we now have Toolan,Allen, and Jacobson in dissagreement,all at the expense of ou GI's.Isn't war wondeful ?
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EastTraveler
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03:56 PM on 04/24/2012
Like they say, Pakistan can't handle the truth and will never cooperate with the US...
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06:08 AM on 04/25/2012
unless and until you live in a country like pakistan you will never understand how people think in these sorts of countries.
Imagine there has been civilization in the Indus valley for over 5k years.
People have invaded over and over again to this fertile area.
do some reading.
start with humayan, sur shah suri, babar, akbar the great. You could go back further to ashoka to get a scale of the history of this region.
Now imagine that usa has been in existance for just 200 years. quite frankly i think the chinese and the indian subcontinent will out think the usa over and over again. the reason? 5000 years of civilization. rat cunning from deprivation and hurt pride. America can rebuild but I doubt it in this century.
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06:51 AM on 04/25/2012
I completely agree with your statement but the fact is that Pakistan will never be controlled or dominated by any outside force or nation of others. The genie in the bottle is their old world view with their new world nuclear capability. What this world needs to worry about is the political view that they would use it against their neighbors if provoked. The Pakistan & India head-butting needs to end and they need to work to a solution of trust and stability. The Kashmir conflict remains a potential flash point that has been continuing for way too long. There are many ills but in the end only Pakistan can elevate itself to a semi-modern civilization but I truly believe that will not happen in my lifetime.