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Greece Halts Benefits To 200,000 Liars, Dead People

Reuters  |  Posted: 04/25/2012 6:29 am Updated: 04/25/2012 3:49 pm



By Angeliki Koutantou and Harry Papachristou

ATHENS, April 25 (Reuters) - Greece has halted welfare or pension payments to 200,000 people either because they are unentitled to the money - or because they are dead, a Labour Ministry official said on Wednesday.

The number of people involved in the abuse, dead or alive, is roughly equal to two percent of the Greek population.

Benefit fraud is common in many welfare states but Greece has come under heavy pressure from the European Union and IMF to crack down in return for its latest 130 billion euro bailout.

Scams often involve people lying to officials who are too disorganised, chaotic or even corrupt to prevent the abuse.

Mismanagement has allowed some families to keep drawing pensions of relatives who have died. However, an unusually high number of 9,000 Greek centenarians drawing old-age benefits prompted the authorities to take a closer look last year.

Simple data cross checks since September had revealed the abuse. "They were caught during the inquiry and the state is reclaiming the money they have illegally taken," the senior Labour Ministry official said on condition of anonymity, adding that thousands of cases had been sent to court.

Halting the payments will save the state up to 800 million euros ($1 billion) a year, the official said.


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A former senior official at the ministry, Athina Dretta, said a lack of communication between government bodies was a problem. "Registry offices didn't even have an automatic system to notify deaths to social security funds," said Dretta.

Officials also became suspicious when they noticed unusual concentrations of blind or disabled people in certain cities and islands, where corrupt social security employees were at work.

Some welfare recipients were found to be working as taxi or truck drivers.

With nearly one-quarter of the 11 million Greeks retired, the once generous welfare state has been partly blamed for a debt crisis that has shaken the euro since it began in 2009.

The pensions drew fire in countries which have funded Greece's bailouts, notably Germany.

Last year the head of a business lobby in Germany's ruling CDU party, Kurt Lauk, said pension fraud was "proof of the need to examine every last inch of Greece's finances, before even one cent (in aid) is provided".

Generous pensions are largely a thing of the past. Greece has cut them by an average 25 percent to balance the books of its state-run social security system, outraging the retired and fuelling discontent with the bailout's austerity conditions.

Athens secured the 130-billion-euro bailout last month to avoid bankruptcy and stay in the euro zone, its second rescue by the EU and International Monetary Fund in two years.

"The more authorities crack down on fraud, the more law-abiding recipients will be spared further savage pension cuts," the Labour Ministry official said.

Efforts to shore up the social security system are being hampered, however, by a wave of business closures and a rise in unemployment to a record level of nearly 22 percent.

The main pension fund IKA gobbled up 44 percent of its full-year funds as early as in the first quarter, according to budget data published earlier this month.

Government grants to plug the social security system's deficits rose by an annual 16 percent over the same period to 1.6 billion euros ($2.11 billion).

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By Angeliki Koutantou and Harry Papachristou ATHENS, April 25 (Reuters) - Greece has halted welfare or pension payments to 200,000 people either because they are unent...
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Richard Bartholomew
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02:01 AM on 04/27/2012
'NIght of the Living Dead Welfare Cheat!'

Coming to a drive-in near you
06:46 AM on 04/26/2012
Sounds like liberal utopia. Everyone on the govt's teat.
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Richard Bartholomew
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02:02 AM on 04/27/2012
Dead and alive
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AkiraBergman
06:43 AM on 04/26/2012
Banksters are on a blame campaign to divert the attention from their responsibility.
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Richard Bartholomew
My micro-bio isn't empty.
02:04 AM on 04/27/2012
Why do you believe that banksters are on a blame campaign to divert the attention from their responsibility? Name one bankster who is on a blame campaign and cite credible references to the evidence that this is so? What do you think their responsibility is? Do you mean all banksters or just some of them?
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AkiraBergman
02:40 AM on 04/27/2012
The article is biassed. I can guess who finances it. Blaming the Greek people is too easy. It is well known that many governments are shorting the democratic process and borrowing money from the banksters for shady projects. When the Irish economy went broke, the Irish blamed the cosy relationship between their governments and the banksters. Greeks are doing the same. Everyone knows the governments are too easy to buy.
06:43 AM on 04/26/2012
This is an American problem too...Especially in the disability claims dept..Lawyers will get them certified disabled from an injury claim to a mental disorder case with no end in payments to them..
05:56 AM on 04/26/2012
And yet, even with the fraud, it wasn't Greece's welfare programs that crashed the Greek economy. But many posters will continue to buy that complete fiction and remain utterly ignorant of the on-going crimes against humanity of the international banksters which did.
draven646
Right of Center.
06:15 AM on 04/26/2012
Too many Public sector workers that had higher salaries than even their German counterparts.

Retirement at 50 for females, 55 for males with generous pensions.

36 Hour Work week

No one paid any Taxes

The Government fudged it's accounts to show a much lower deficit in order to get cheap loans from the International bond markets.

Yup - The banksters did this....

I say kick em out of the Eurozone - let them revert to the drachma.
06:22 AM on 04/26/2012
The banksters fudged the books to get Greece into the Euro zone. If it wasn't in the zone the drachma would've adjusted itself accordingly and Greece wouldn't have the huge problems it has today.
06:44 AM on 04/26/2012
Thank you for providing an example of the type of poster to whom I was referring.
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AndyGra
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05:53 AM on 04/26/2012
How close is Greece to Chicago?
06:13 AM on 04/26/2012
meaning what?
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AndyGra
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09:57 AM on 04/26/2012
Meaning, the dead voting. Sorry if my inference was not obvious.
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minimemo
Can I be your friend...if they let me out...
05:42 AM on 04/26/2012
Hope they have also stopped the outragous rule of allowing people to retire on full pensions that equated to 90% of their salary at 55 if they work in a stressful environment - that list includes bus drives and hairdressers!
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istanbulite
12:33 PM on 04/28/2012
Yep that hairspray is noxous and deadly. Not to mention the sharp scissors. lol
05:33 AM on 04/26/2012
A little known fact but Greece as well as iceland banks were heavily invested in the default swap "issue" back here in the US. It should be no surprise that these nations are having extreme financial issues right now. What occurred here on wall street and the banking industry is a world wide financial issue. The scope of which is yet to be played out.
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istanbulite
05:17 AM on 04/26/2012
There is absolutely fraud in every country and every government system, but this level of fraud is huge and ridiculous. If it was this easy to find the fraud in 2011 and 2012 then it was just as easy to find it earlier. Clearly there was no incentive to find it earlier as there was tons of money from international loans and then bailouts. It was only when Greece was forced to deal with some of the fraud that the exact numbers and individuals were determined. This is only the tip of the fraud iceberg in Greece. For whatever reason, fraud has been a way of life.
KenInd
We too shall get through this.....
05:05 AM on 04/26/2012
I suspect the number of welfare frauds in the US is higher.
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Howard Williams
Annoyed in Illinois
05:32 AM on 04/26/2012
Numbers? Yes. Percentage, meh.
06:05 AM on 04/26/2012
what makes you suspect this?
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straightuptalker
What ever happened to common sense?
04:59 AM on 04/26/2012
"Scams often involve people lying to officials who are too disorganised, chaotic or even corrupt to prevent the abuse."

If the U.S. rolls were scrutinized more closely, we'd find extra treasure at the end of the rainbow too. Problem is, it has to start with purging the people who continue to operate this agency, and revamp the criteria, in spite of the mindset of complacency, laziness and ineptness so prolific within. Steps must be taken to clean out the system so those whom are deserving and entitled continue to get their just benefits.
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05:36 AM on 04/26/2012
Many years ago California did a cross-check of people who were getting benefits for being blind with people who had driver's licenses. They discovered thousands of people were on both lists.
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istanbulite
12:34 PM on 04/28/2012
OMG no wonder there as so many car accidents in CA. lol
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WellReadAussie2
Different words, same sentiment
04:39 AM on 04/26/2012
Of course "people are going to rort the system".....it's part of the challenge of life....everywhere, even here....!
But, one reason why Australia is able to be "acceptably" generous to our disdavantaged folk, is that we have stringent.....y'all would say "invasive"...but we don;t care.....anyway....we have strong regulations and procedures to ensure that out of what "generosity" our various Governments show........WE get maximum benefit.
We try to "keep it fair"

Yeah....of course Greece...get rid of the bludgers. Smarten up !

America....."lesson learned....hmmm !"
Justice Goodyear
Equal disdain for both political parties
04:26 AM on 04/26/2012
See what happens when true reform occurs?  Greece's population is 2% of the U.S.  If the numbers were to hold true that would mean 7,000,000 people in the U.S. would be cut off that were entitled to receive benefits that currently are.  You know the abuse is as bad or worse here.
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Vavavoom
Yeah,.. yeah... vroom ... vroom, Next please.
05:06 AM on 04/26/2012
because the US is also known to be a welfare state?
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Feurio
Religion poisons everything
05:43 AM on 04/26/2012
It is. Especially for wallstreet.
04:15 AM on 04/26/2012
Next time, the might want to do this First...

before your country goes bankrupt
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oldwolf49
Religion is a tool of the evil.
04:13 AM on 04/26/2012
I find it appalling that Greece is stopping payments to the dead, they gotta eat too right? And brains are in short supply anyway. Get it?
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yoyodyne666
Just here to spool you up.
04:56 AM on 04/26/2012
Got it.