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Ron Paul Campaign Ignored Army Inquiries Over Jesse Thorsen, Soldier Who Endorsed Him

RYAN J. FOLEY   05/01/12 03:02 PM ET  AP

IOWA CITY, Iowa — Ron Paul's presidential campaign did not return repeated Army inquiries seeking information about the political activities of a reservist who endorsed Paul in uniform at an Iowa rally, according to Army documents released Tuesday.

Records released to The Associated Press under the Freedom of Information Act detail the investigation of Jesse D. Thorsen, who was reprimanded in March for violating policies barring soldiers from participating in political events while in uniform. The case was slowed, in part, because the investigator could not reach Paul aides in Iowa despite what he described as numerous calls, phone messages and voice mails spanning weeks, records show.

"Multiple attempts were made to contact the Ron Paul campaign. Further time was requested to seek out a response. Despite multiple attempts, no one from the campaign responded to my inquiries," investigator Bradley Borgos, of the Dubuque, Iowa-based 389th Engineering Combat Battalion, wrote in a memorandum titled: "Delays."

A Paul campaign spokesman said he was looking into the matter and had no immediate comment Tuesday. Paul, a Texas congressman, continues his presidential bid even though Mitt Romney is the all-but-certain GOP nominee.

Thorsen, who is with a Des Moines-based unit, showed up in his military fatigues to the Paul campaign's caucus night celebration Jan. 3. There, he gave a live interview with CNN saying he supported Paul's noninterventionist foreign policy. Paul later called him to the stage where Thorsen said "we don't need to be picking fights overseas," called Paul a rock star and urged supporters to organize on Paul's behalf.

The Army launched an investigation, which was expanded to look at Thorsen's background after news reports showed he was arrested in connection with breaking into a home in Florida in 2004.

The documents show Borgos recommended Thorsen be reprimanded, and that his commanders bar him from re-enlisting when his contract expires because of the violation and criminal history. Battalion Commander Lt. Col. Matthew Baker agreed to the reprimand but rejected further discipline.

Thorsen said he wore his uniform to the Paul event because he was told to look nice and he "couldn't think of a more dignified piece of clothing to wear," Borgos wrote.

Thorsen said he was whisked away by aides to meet the candidate during the rally and Paul unexpectedly summoned him to the stage minutes later. After speaking, Thorsen said he was surprised to learn from a member of the crowd who identified himself as an Army sergeant that what he did was a violation.

"I am also surprised that Ron Paul, an Air Force Officer and congressman of many years or his advisors who told me they too served in the military, would not have explained to me that wearing my uniform was in violation of regulation," Thorsen said in a sworn statement.

Thorsen said Tuesday via e-mail he understood why Paul aides did not cooperate with the investigation given the campaign's busy schedule. He called the case "cut and dry" because of videos showing him speaking at the event.

Borgos was appointed to investigate, among other things, the extent of Thorsen's involvement with Paul's campaign before caucus night and whether any activities violated military rules. He wrote he wanted to contact Paul's campaign aides in Iowa to interview anyone who worked with Thorsen previously or invited him to the rally.

Borgos wrote that he made numerous attempts but the campaign "did not return my phone calls and voice mails." In one final effort, he said he spoke with a woman who identified herself as "Sara" who said "she would speak to someone on the staff who would call me back to assist in the investigation."

"No one from the Ron Paul campaign staff has since called me back, and further attempts to call them have gone unanswered," Borgos wrote, nine days later.

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leyvadaniel
God is not a conservative
03:06 PM on 05/02/2012
In this case, the feds should go after Ron Paul, for using a member of the armed forces in uniform (and probably on duty) for political purposes, only to throw him under the bus later. That is the libertarian mentality, the end justify the means, no matter who suffers the consequences.
06:05 PM on 05/02/2012
Where in the Libertarian philosophy did you get that they believe the ends justify the means?
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leyvadaniel
God is not a conservative
12:48 PM on 05/03/2012
That is the principle of libertarianism: Read "The Prince" the whole libertarian set of ideologies is taken from there.
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chessienut
09:07 AM on 05/02/2012
Now they are siccing the Army on Paul. He'd better be on the alert for any low flying drones. Desperate people resort to desperate measures when they see their slimy grip on power slipping away.
03:47 PM on 05/02/2012
I think you are the desperate one. They do the same thing when someone shows up to a Democratic political event in uniform.
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blindsquirl
Compliance is not a virtue
08:33 PM on 05/12/2012
Really..? I've seen it get a 1 or 2 lines in an article...but it gets a complete article, if they can somehow undermine Dr. Pauls position.
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mcmutter
A Groover has to expect a few setbacks .....
08:32 AM on 05/02/2012
still in the running .... now that Newt is out ....

Paul might actually come in 3rd in some race .....
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gevan
big dubya
03:26 PM on 05/02/2012
Their delegate collection strategy is designed to bypass the primary voters and use arcane rules to build up what may turn out to be a surprising number of convention votes.
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David Hundley
Deep In The Heart of Taxes
01:04 AM on 05/02/2012
To actually go out and promise money to another country and try to keep them safe is tupid.
What about us Americans? Money is being re-distributed to other countries and to major no-bid contractors that are getting fat as a tick off the taxpayers money. United Health, Xe, GD, and assorted Charter Schools. Which by the way are being mandated by our Dep. of Education secretary Arne Duncan.
If states refuse, they will owe a penalty. Just like when you don't pay your obamacare premiums.
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David Hundley
Deep In The Heart of Taxes
12:54 AM on 05/02/2012
Those Afgans are laughing there way to the bank,"foolish American"."That brother just promised to give us a fortune". "Now, we can afford all the virgins we want". While they laugh at us, we are crying at home. Working hard just to give it all away to another country, that will end up just the way we found it. No matter how many soldiers are sacrificed for reasons unknown. Lesson Learned:
http://www.dailypaul.com/
Ya'll just need to get with the program, "Fortunately, the number of people who care is growing exponentially". Dr. Ron Paul.
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David Hundley
Deep In The Heart of Taxes
12:41 AM on 05/02/2012
I told you this election is about war and peace. Pick your sides.
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2012/04/30/ron-paul-guest-hosts-cnbcs-squawk-box-april-23-2012/
i don't know if you have seen the interview, but this is what the Washington Elite are very afraid of.
Truth, Honor and Integrity. The only man that will have the troops home by Valentines Day 2013.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_paul_vs_obama-1750.html
A 7.4% DIFFERENCE, YEA, IT CAN HAPPEN. "Determination" pass it on.
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David Hundley
Deep In The Heart of Taxes
12:29 AM on 05/02/2012
The HuffPost can spin the news, Now it is up to the Paul millions of people truth team.
Because you wont hear it from either of the medias picks. What a shame, lying like a teenager.
Why Doesn't Someone, Anyone, even a small child. Stand -Up and ask OBama how are going to pay for all the plans to rob this country and give it to muslim countries? WE ARE BAR-ROKE.
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JayBee 12
Forward!
03:35 PM on 05/04/2012
So how does Obama's supposedly "Muslim" agenda have anything whatsoever to do with Ron Paul, a former Airman in the Air Force who ought to be aware of the UCMJ, allowing an Army corporal to violate the UCMJ at his event, and then not cooperate with the investigator assigned to the case?
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David Hundley
Deep In The Heart of Taxes
11:52 AM on 05/07/2012
One talks about the world, and the other talks about Americans and American.
One should keep their Own House in Order, Before they go out and try to Re-Construct others.
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11:23 PM on 05/01/2012
But the millions of dollars, donated to the other candidates promotional activities; from the arms dealers who profit off the wars; that deserves no inquiry?
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David Hundley
Deep In The Heart of Taxes
12:33 AM on 05/02/2012
That's why smith and wesson armory can't keep up with the orders, and their stock has been doing very well. The next thing for him to do is take away your guns. He doesn't know the old saying, because he ain't from around here. I will give up my gun when you pry it out of my cold dead hands.
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JayBee 12
Forward!
03:36 PM on 05/04/2012
How many gun laws has Obama proposed or signed into law since becoming president?
09:09 PM on 05/01/2012
Oh we can not who is contributing to presidential elections, what corporations and countries!!! Be we reprimand a solider for wearing his uniform??? How petty we will swallow a elephant and gag on a Nat!!! Shame on the military!!! Seems to me they would better spend their time investigating real crimes such as donations from foreign nationals!!!
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kuewa
09:52 PM on 05/01/2012
What??? Maybe you should try rewriting your comment using proper grammar and spelling. Whatever it is that you are trying to say, Thorsen violated Army policy and was also found to have a criminal record. The point of this report is that Sen Paul and his campaign failed to cooperate with the Army investigation.
09:58 PM on 05/01/2012
Congressman. Senator Paul is his son.
12:35 AM on 05/02/2012
Mate, I wouldn't comply with this stupid army investigation either. I don't think they are breaking the law. BTW I could read the above comment, and Senator Paul is Congressman Paul's son. If I have typos or gramma wrong in this post, I don't care... love from Australia, at least I got the names right.
07:34 PM on 05/01/2012
He knew what he was doing was wrong reserve or active duty all service members are instructed from the beginning of these type of infractions so to say he did not know is totally false
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David Hundley
Deep In The Heart of Taxes
01:07 AM on 05/02/2012
At this point getting out was a self preservation issue. It's weird like that, as a civilian the people are the boss, and the Pres is the public servant, and when you are a servicemember, the Pres is your boss, and the servicemember is the servant.
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tbryant80
I am an Independent, not a troll for partisan poli
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tbryant80
I am an Independent, not a troll for partisan poli
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tbryant80
I am an Independent, not a troll for partisan poli
07:29 PM on 05/01/2012
Here is the military's top brass violating the policy (in a campaign for their religious beliefs) http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/08/03/366245/-DOD-Report-Top-US-Military-Officials-Endorsed-Evangelizing-In-Pentagon
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tbryant80
I am an Independent, not a troll for partisan poli
07:25 PM on 05/01/2012
And another http://www.brianbirdwell.net/about.htm
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tbryant80
I am an Independent, not a troll for partisan poli
07:24 PM on 05/01/2012
Add this one to the list (and he is a general) http://stevebullock.com/about-gen-walsh