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France Presidential Election: Sarkozy, Hollande Face Off In Debate

By JAMEY KEATEN and ANGELA CHARLTON 05/02/12 08:39 PM ET AP

PARIS — French President Nicolas Sarkozy failed to deliver a knockout blow against leftist front-runner Francois Hollande in their only head-to-head debate in France's presidential campaign, the last major hurdle just four days before Sunday's election finale.

Hollande – an understated man whom many expected to wither under Sarkozy's sharp attacks – stood his ground, surprising some observers and even himself. But Wednesday's much-awaited TV debate produced no outright winner, and appears unlikely to shake up the campaign.

The debate had shaped up as Sarkozy's last stand and last chance to draw blood against Hollande, and it quickly turned into a verbal slugfest that broke little new ground on substance but exposed big differences in style.

Sarkozy, an America-friendly conservative who has linked up with German Chancellor Angela Merkel to try to revive Europe's finances and economic prospects, came out slugging and sought to cast himself as the best man to keep France both decisive and competitive.

The incumbent president assailed Hollande's plans to raise taxes and boost spending – repeatedly accusing him of lying.

"The job of president isn't a normal job and the situation we're in isn't normal," snapped Sarkozy, riffing off of the Socialist Hollande's promise to bring a "normal" presidency compared to the incumbent's high-energy tenure. "Your normalcy isn't up to the stakes."

But for Hollande, the stakes boiled down to depicting presidential demeanor, and showing that he could hold his own against Sarkozy – a longtime political nemesis whom he has faced in TV debates dating to the 1990s.

"Hollande held up well," political scientist and former pollster Stephane Rozes told France-3 TV, adding that he doesn't think the debate will "shake things up" ahead of Sunday's vote.

Hollande said on France-3 television afterward that he showed voters "what I was capable of." But he acknowledged, "I don't think this is a debate ... that could bring out new voters."

The campaign has largely focused on domestic issues such as the weak economy, immigration, and integration of French Muslims. Yet the outcome is considered crucial to the rest of Europe as well because France is a major economic engine at a time when the eurozone is trying to climb out of a debt crisis.

Sarkozy says France needs to do more to cut spending and high state debt, while Hollande backs government-funded stimulus programs. Both have pushed for similar approaches for the rest of the continent, too.

The two debaters quibbled over statistics; they scoffed sarcastically or spoke over each other, pointed fingers and raised their voices. Their debates came across at times as wonkish, esoteric or nitpicky.

"It's a lie! It's a lie!" Sarkozy insisted in one heated exchange on economic policies. The Socialist contender, meanwhile, forcefully denied some of Sarkozy's claims about his intentions, insisting, "I never said that."

Hollande accused Sarkozy of appointing cronies to government posts, and the president shot back, calling his rival "a little slanderer" and noting he had named some ministers from the political left in his first Cabinet.

A high point came as Hollande teed off on a presenter's question about what kind of president he'd be. He tipped back in his chair, folded his arms, and launched into a litany of points starting with the phrase: "As president of the Republic, I ..." on issues like the independence of judges, his plan to defer much policy-making to the prime minister or energy policy.

"You've just gave us a nice speech – we got teary-eyed," retorted Sarkozy, trying to break down some of Hollande's points. "Your bit about independence of judges is a joke."

Hollande repeatedly using one of his campaign catchwords: like "unity" and "change" to stress the contrast between him and the divisive Sarkozy. Pollsters say the incumbent turned off a lot of voters early in his five-year term with his brash personal style. A stagnant economy made those troubles worse.

Sarkozy said he's being unfairly blamed for France's economic problems after years of crisis, and insisted he's not "the only guilty one."

"Mr. Sarkozy, you would have a hard time passing for a victim," replied Hollande. "It's never your fault. You always have a scapegoat. 'It's not me, it's the crisis that hit me.'"

Sarkozy said Hollande's economic plans would send France's debt through the roof and hurt the rest of Europe. The Socialist repeated his line that an euro-zone austerity package needs growth-minded policies, too.

Sarkozy stressed, again and again, Hollande's inexperience, and suggested the Socialist would not be able to handle Europe's debt crisis.

"We avoided the disappearance of Greece, that wasn't so easy. ... I'm not sure, Mr. Hollande, that you would have done much better."

Hollande fired back: "Europe isn't out of the woods. It is today confronted with a possible resurgence of the crisis with a generalized austerity, and I don't want that."

Hollande further criticized tax reforms under Sarkozy seen by leftists as too friendly to the rich. Sarkozy countered, "Saying that we offered gifts to the rich ... is slander. It's a lie."

At this, Hollande laughed.

Both the Socialists and conservatives have sought ways to lure voters who backed Marine Le Pen, leader of the anti-immigrant National Front party who won a stunning 18 percent of the first-round vote.

Sarkozy denounced those who compared him to France's Nazi collaborators because of his tough campaign rhetoric on immigrants.

"Borders are not a bad word," Sarkozy said about his calls to limit the number of immigrants France takes in.

Hollande, meanwhile, took a similar position to Sarkozy when it came to special treatment for France's large Muslim community.

He said he would not allow separate menus in public cafeterias or separate hours in swimming pools for men and women to satisfy Muslims' demands, and also said he would firmly support France's ban on the face-covering Islamic veils.

Sarkozy took a predator pose from the outset, leaning forward on the desk through much of the debate. Hollande frequently leaned back in his chair, raising his voice less often, and at one point even appeared to yawn.

Sarkozy's assertive posture, in another setting, could be seen as a good thing for a debate. But one of the things his critics dislike most about him is a personality seen as too aggressive, so it may not work in his favor.

The debate was preceded by the kind of dramatic build-up normally reserved for a heavyweight boxing championship, even though experts say past debates have never swung a French election, regardless of who comes off better in the televised showdown.

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Sylvie Corbet, Thibault Leroux and Cecile Brisson in Paris contributed to this report.

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BurningStarz
Matrix Is A System Neo.
10:29 AM on 05/04/2012
Hollande won the debate hands down...let's see sunday for the results...
03:09 PM on 05/03/2012
I just bought a bourbon for Sunday night's victory lap. Allez, allez, allez, allez... allez, Hollande!!!
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mjeffn
Freedom's just another word 4 nothing left to lose
12:06 PM on 05/03/2012
GO HOLLANDE!
Giordano Bruno
Flaming Librul
11:37 AM on 05/03/2012
The French have similar economic issues to the US. Their prosperity is behind them, unemployment is far too high, and in addition they have a costly entitlement system. While there is a challenge from the French Tea Party (followers of Marie Le Pen), the more significant challenge is from the left, from a French Keynesian. This is the first recent iteration of a political philosophy which has been thoroughly discredited here in the US, not so much through rational discourse, nor failure of policies, but more because of invective propoganda by the emotional right wingers who distort and misrepresent progressive ideas. I hope Mr. Hollande wins and can mount a progressive agenda in France, and we shall see if putting people back to work as a result of government stimulus is a harmful as our Teavangelicals purport.
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02:00 PM on 05/03/2012
If only Hollande really was proposing to do such a thing ... but alas you are overestimating him.
11:30 AM on 05/03/2012
The timer for the three minute egg was off. They both came out hard boiled and overdone.
Paris, We can still ship you Monsieur Romney.
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02:01 PM on 05/03/2012
Bill Clinton would do a better job than Sarko, Flamby or Romney. The French love Bill, and he'll definitely enjoy the perks offered by 5 years in Paris with a nice pad on the rue St. Honoré.
10:57 AM on 05/03/2012
I will be very surprised if Sarkozy gets another term in office.
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braigno2
In the end it all comes down to money.
09:12 AM on 05/03/2012
I think Hollande will be elected , I beleive the french have rejected Sarkozi because ,amongst other things , of his personality. His was never likable and France doenst like their presidents to at as monarchs.Sarko was popular because mostly of his stance on immigration.
However i see france getting into a worse situation then what they are in His "growth" plan will not be as easy with the rest of southern Europe dragging it down.
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Ethernum
Stars dust and red stripes in the wind
08:10 AM on 05/03/2012
After 10 years of Sarkozy it can be rundown by this : a mediatic fart
Nobody can do worst, he hit the bottom, it will be easier for Hollande to obtain a better result.
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Yank in France
Rien se cree tout se transforme
11:37 AM on 05/03/2012
Sarkozy has been in power for only 5 years, not 10. He served in the previous administration, but he did not set policy then!

Second, the incumbent is indeed a disagreeable man, but he pushed through crucial reforms of the retirement, healthcare and public school system. These are reforms opposed by the socalled left in France, so it is hard to imagine Hollande doing any better.

Above all, a huge part of the political equation in France is not decided in the ballot box, but in the streets. I seriously doubt that Hollande will have to guts to stand up to the same leftist unions he is courting at this very moment!
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Ethernum
Stars dust and red stripes in the wind
12:24 PM on 05/03/2012
Sarkozy :

politically born in 2002 when the far right replaced the left against Chirac in the polls (because of too much corruption), being nominated by Chirac, he decided to adopt the far right program, increasing the suffering of the poor by spoilation of rights, increasing severe punishments against immigrant, illegals, poor, opponents, muslim, roma/gypsy and many others minority.

He was also under Chirac a real supporter of what caused the financial crisis before it happened, and continued the same economical failed policy after the crisis while nearly abandonned by the US. He was elected in 2007 only because he hijacked the vote of the far right.

Today the vast majority of french is against him because Sarkozy favored the small minority of rich, the far right recovered and is strenghtened by Sarkozy
On may 6, 2012 is the end of his political carrer, defeated without surprise.

By reversing what Sarkozy has done, Hollande can soften the suffering of french people hit by the crisis and also punished by Sarkozy.
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Ethernum
Stars dust and red stripes in the wind
01:19 PM on 05/03/2012
In 2007 before the crisis Sarkozy maintained that the problem of the French is that they don't get into debt enough, citing the example of the US housing market. Today we all know it was a fraudulent system on the eve of collaspe.

cost cutting policy is not an option during a crisis, it only deepen the crisis, France is really in a bad economical shape today, really bad, because of Chirac/Sarkozy economical choice from 2002 to 2008, still worsening.
Michael II
Neither the one, nor the only
06:53 AM on 05/03/2012
Now this is what I call being presidential.

Although entirely unrelated, I just read that the former Irish president Mary McAleese has returned over €500,000 to the state coffers. It's money that was not spent during her stay as president, but which she was not obliged to return.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2012/0503/1224315513730.html

Prior to that, she had waived increases in her salary over a number of years.

This is the sort of moral leadership we need from our leaders.
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Yank in France
Rien se cree tout se transforme
11:38 AM on 05/03/2012
Great points. If only we had more leaders like Mary McAleese!!
06:39 AM on 05/03/2012
"normalcy" is hardly a form of English that would be recognised or accepted on this side of the "pond". "Normality" is the accepted form over here and, to be honest, is less ugly.
As far as the French elections are concerned I have to say that the reactions in the French press are unanimous in declaring their surprise at the way in which Hollande not only resisted Sarkozy's arguments but carried the fight to him. (By the way I am a Brit living in France since 1970).
Whether left or right it would appear from articles in newspapers across the political spectrum - even Figaro- that Hollande emerged as having not won but giving as good, if not better, than he got. As Sarkozy had declared that he would "explode" Hollande and had signally failed to do so it bodes ill for his chances to affect the outcome on the 6th May, at least, in his favour.
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ndem
06:13 AM on 05/03/2012
anyone want to discuss that dead former Libyan oil minister found floating in the Danube a few days ago? Links to payments made to France in 2007? This is a comment made on www.guardian.uk.co website:

It will excite Europe if Hollande were to win ! as Sarkozy still has not explained why he was so keen to destabilize Libya and eradicate Qaddafi - as the stories that this family gave him serious money for re election why then the determination to eradicate a political dynasty?

Also why was the former PM Ghanem executed in Austria without much media interest ? Body found in River Danube, when Libya has 40 Billion Euros in Austrian banks ?
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Ri-Poste
Vision of a Nomad
08:04 AM on 05/03/2012
you should read "mediapart" a web news who explain everything about this scandal !!
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ndem
06:03 AM on 05/03/2012
I watched it and speak French and Hollande won.
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Ivoire
African-European
06:31 AM on 05/03/2012
The ultimate struggle will be on sunday.
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missjulz
See "Dirty Wars".
11:17 AM on 05/03/2012
Moi aussi.
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Ri-Poste
Vision of a Nomad
05:33 AM on 05/03/2012
just let's say Sarkozy has lost his last chance to convince People to vote for him :-))
qu'il dégage !!
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beautyandblack
war vetran
05:18 AM on 05/03/2012
All information that indicates is that once a powerful king of French political hierarchy is now a floating Rubbish waiting to be thrown out of the political power. Reminding those who would come next not to get power drunk as was Sarkozy.
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04:36 AM on 05/03/2012
'the job of a president is not a normal job' is that a half hearted attempt of admission,of saying that he works with crooks