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JPMorgan Trading Loss Suggests Little Has Changed Since The Financial Crisis

Posted: 05/11/2012 5:02 pm Updated: 05/11/2012 5:34 pm

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Peter Castelli, a vice president with JP Morgan, works in his firm's booth on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange Friday, May 11, 2012, a day after JPMorgan disclosed a huge trading loss.

If you thought Wall Street had learned its lesson four years after the global financial crisis, JPMorgan Chase's $2 billion trading debacle suggests you should think again, investment bankers and industry experts say.

To some, it suggests that the need for financial reform is still just as urgent as it was the day the crisis broke out.

JPMorgan revealed on Thursday that it had lost about $2 billion (with possibly more losses to come) from risky bets on opaque derivatives at a London trading desk.

The pressure on the bank intensified on Friday, with reports that the Securities and Exchange Commission had opened an investigation of its trades and Fitch Ratings downgrading the bank's long-term credit rating to A+ from AA-.

JPMorgan's big losing trade shows that at least some big banks are engaged in the same sort of behavior that rocked the financial system in 2008, if on a smaller scale.

“This is a smaller version of the same betting that went on in 2006,” said Will Rhode, a principal and director of fixed income at The Tabb Group, a financial-markets research and advisory firm.

“Ultimately, this is about banks being dissatisfied with the single-digit returns on equity that are associated with their conventional lending businesses, and trying to find other ways to make money," said Daniel Alpert, founding managing partner at investment bank Westwood Capital, "with risk, once again, taking a backseat to potential reward.”

The episode has provided ammunition to those calling for new regulations, particularly the part of the Dodd-Frank financial reform act known as the Volcker Rule, or a ban on proprietary trading by federally insured banks. The rule is currently scheduled to take effect in July, though Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke has suggested regulators will probably miss the deadline. Part of the delay is due to a barrage of pressure from lobbyists, who have helped to complicate and water down the rule.

“This latest debacle at JPMorgan demonstrates that the banks cannot police themselves, and should not be trusted to do so,” said law professor Frank Partnoy, director of the Center on Corporate and Securities Law at the University of San Diego. “At minimum, they should be required to disclose details about their derivatives, so their shareholders can understand what risks they are taking.”

By Friday afternoon, lawmakers were starting to make a similar argument.

“If the regulators do what [the Volcker rule] says ... this activity would not be permitted,” Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich.), one of the authors of the Volcker rule, told CNBC. “The purpose of Dodd-Frank was essentially to bring back a cop on the beat on Wall Street.”

Tabb Group’s Rhode went further.

“This makes the Volcker rule a foregone conclusion,” he said. “The entire financial community is holding their heads in their hands saying this JPMorgan event could not have happened at a worse time.”

The fact that the trading losses happened at JPMorgan, whose CEO, Jamie Dimon, has been an outspoken critic of financial reform, likely strengthens the argument of those pushing for more regulation.

"There's something delicious about this happening to JPMorgan," Rep. John Sarbanes (D-Md.) told The Huffington Post on Friday.

JPMorgan's troubles should help Dodd-Frank's cause, said Sarbanes, the son of former Sen. Paul Sarbanes (D-Md.), who co-sponsored the Sarbanes-Oxley financial regulation law that passed in 2002.

However, "people forget quickly," he cautioned. "The finance industry has a lot of sway."

What is difficult to tell is exactly how widespread the practices are that got JPMorgan into trouble -- partly because without financial reforms, the riskier corners of Wall Street are still just as murky as they were before the crisis.

“We never hear about these things if they profit from it," said William D. Cohan, a former managing director at JPMorgan who now writes frequently about the banks. "They never call a five o’clock press conference saying we made $4 billion on a London Whale trade.

"We’ll never know who else is doing it, and this is one of the big problems," he added. "It’s an opaque black box.”

The JPMorgan incident also highlights one other problematic trend still lingering from the crisis: Too-big-to-fail banks engaging in risky behavior that could possibly lead to government bailouts.

"We have to decide whether we want these banks to be large public utilities -- very safe, not generating humongous returns," said Alpert of Westwood Capital, "or do we want these institutions to engage in speculation and put our system at risk?”

Emily Peck contributed reporting to this story.

JPMorgan Whale Fail And Nine Other Big Bank Disasters

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  • JPMorgan Chase Loses $2 Billion

    On May 10th, the U.S.'s largest bank JPMorgan Chase announced one of its London trading desks had lost <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/10/jpmorgan-chase-london-whale_n_1507662.html?ref=business" target="_hplink">$2 billion on bad bets on credit derivatives</a>.

  • UBS Trader Loses $2 Billion

    Kweku Adoboli, a trader for Swiss bank UBS, lost <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/15/ubs-traders_n_963715.html" target="_hplink">$2 billion on unauthorized trades in September 2011</a>.

  • MF Global Collapse

    Brokerage firm <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/31/mf-global-to-file-for-bankruptcy_n_1066902.html" target="_hplink">MF Global filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy</a> in October 2011 after a failed $6 billion bet on European debt.

  • Rogue Societe General Trader Loses $6 Billion

    Hailed as "history's biggest rogue trading scandal" at the time, French trader Jerome Kerviel was convicted in October 2010 of <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/05/jerome-kerviel-rogue-fren_n_750464.html" target="_hplink">losing French bank Societe General around $6 billion</a> due to unauthorized trades.

  • Bear Sterns Bought By JPMorgan Chase

    After a run on investment bank Bear Sterns nearly caused its collapse in 2007, JPMorgan bought the firm for $2 a share the following March, <a href="http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/mar2008/db20080316_356646.htm" target="_hplink">Businessweek</a> reports.

  • AIG Largest Single Bailout

    Insurance company AIG became the recipient of the <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/08/aig-bailout-realize-15-billion-profit-taxpaers-gao_n_1498645.html" target="_hplink">largest ever government bailout for a single corporation</a> when a $182 billion rescue package saved it from a liquidity crisis following a <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/08/aig-bailout-realize-15-billion-profit-taxpaers-gao_n_1498645.html" target="_hplink">downgrade of its credit rating</a> in 2008.

  • Washington Mutual Bankruptcy

    One of the biggest players in retail banking and mortgages during the housing crisis, Washington Mutual filed for Chapter 11 in September 2008, after sustaining losses on billions of dollars worth of mortgage and home loans, <a href="http://www.cnbc.com/id/46793926/WaMu_Emerges_From_Bankruptcy_Protection" target="_hplink">CNBC</a> reports.

  • Citigroup Bailout

    Citigroup came to the brink of collapse after it reported losses around $10 billion in 2007, in part due to failed mortgage investments, <a href="http://money.cnn.com/2008/01/15/news/companies/citigroup_earnings/index.htm" target="_hplink">CNNMoney</a> reported. To keep the bank afloat the government issued <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/23/feds-consider-plan-to-res_n_145856.html" target="_hplink">a $20 billion bailout in November of that year</a>.

  • Merill Lynch Shocks Investors With Big Loss

    After projecting a $4.5 billion loss during the third quarter of 2007, Merrill Lynch shocked investors by reporting a $7.9 billion deficit from trading mortgage-backed securities and other structured products, <a href="http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007/11/26/101232838/" target="_hplink">according to CNNMoney</a>.

  • Barings Bank Collapse

    One time star trader Nick Leeson was responsible for sinking British bank Barings after losing $1 billion when an an earthquake struck Kobe, Japan in 1995, causing his investments in the Nikkei to fail as the Japanese stock exchange crashed, <a href="http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1937349_1937350_1937488,00.html" target="_hplink">TIME reported</a>.

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Beatriz09 09:12 PM on 05/12/2012
I'm sorry, but to me this is a perfect example of bad, misleading journalism. The headline on the main page says "NOTHING has changed on Wall Street". The headline of the article already says something less radical: JPMorgan Trading "SUGGESTS LITTLE" change. And then, if you actually read the article (in itself very interesting and solid), you discover that Obama's Wall Street reform actually contains a  Read More...
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Sophist FCD
vocatus sum pejora per melioribus
12:56 PM on 05/14/2012
You mean the Banks didn't learn their lesson after all that nothing we did to them the last time? Shocking...
10:46 AM on 05/14/2012
Wow watch these videos on who was against regulation.
Disgusting what these politicians have done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM&feature=email

http://youtu.be/CZ-4gnNz0vc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzWrnUezDOU&feature=email”


These videos are so good I know that after watching you will send to everyone you know.
They are going viral on the internet.
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fourex
10:32 AM on 05/14/2012
When you gamble with other's money you are in a win, win, win configuration, Michael Scott.
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nypapajoe
07:25 AM on 05/14/2012
The issue is lack of federal regulations which the republicans out right refuse to legislate! Derivatives brought down the market the last time and it's the reason behind this catastrophe because nothing has changed! Greed is what's motivating this false economy! It was stated during the recent congressional hearings by experts that unregulated Wall St and Banking shenanigans will bring about another melt down which will be far worse! Don't think for one minute that the other financial houses are not suffering some financial compromise! the CEOs don't care their contracts dictate a parachute which consists of salary, bonuses and stock options worth Hundreds of Millions!
08:16 PM on 05/13/2012
"If you thought..... think again."

My. what an overused cliché.

"If you thought you had to pay a lot for a muffler, think again!"

How unoriginal can you get?
07:55 PM on 05/13/2012
Dimon should resign instantly.
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Stanley Bonk
"mad, bad, and dangerous to know"
01:58 PM on 05/13/2012
Am I the only person in the world who thinks it would be great fun to get a bunch of people together, give them torches and pitchforks, and march them all in the midle of the night to Jamie Dimon's house, and, on a given signal have everyone start making a big ruckus for a minute or two? I'm not saying to do anything, just to make some noise for a minute and get the hell out before the cops arrive, kind of like a Chinese fire alarm?
You know, just to make the point.
Or has OWS already thought of that one?
ElCojonuo
I believe in WISDOM
01:30 PM on 05/13/2012
The politicians ( both sides ) are bought and paid for folks.
Reform of the Political System is what's needed, but don't hold your breath.
Don't expect ANY changes.
08:34 AM on 05/13/2012
We now have 2 back to back Administrations that primarily exist to serve and reward Wall Street.

The current administration inherited a disgraceful situation and has made it worse. Wall St is making (and wasting) more money now than they ever did under Dubya. Apparently both parties are fully owned by the big bucks of Wall St and the Big Banks.

We need to return to the days of serious regulation of behavior and ownership in these organizations. There was a reason that laws like Glass-Steagall, the Bank Holdng Act and others existed and lasted so long. Greed is good and productive up to a point. Beyond that point it becomes divisive and destructive and we are way beyond that point now.
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cowbore
08:34 AM on 05/13/2012
I like the passive aspects of this in how he uses "suggests". Tippy toe around it all, don't want to offend a banker now would you. It doesn't "suggest" they this needs to be looked at. It demands change NOW.
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cheepseat
Smaller, Simpler, Smarter, Goner!
05:36 AM on 05/13/2012
Who comes up with rhetoric based on BS " like too big to fail "

These Banks are TOO BIG TO SUCCEED........ how much proof is needed?
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cheepseat
Smaller, Simpler, Smarter, Goner!
05:25 AM on 05/13/2012
Where is my last post? It has merit.
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cheepseat
Smaller, Simpler, Smarter, Goner!
05:17 AM on 05/13/2012
This is the time for an intervention to save our drunk uncle sam who lives on wall street.

All the moneydrunk bankers need ReHab.

Rikers Island operates on a budget of about $860 million dollars a year.

A cavity search of just one CEO could cover the cost of improvements for a CEO wing at Rikers Island.

Just think of the improvements we can make when the bankers pay restitution.

We are no longer using the GOLD STANDARD for our financial system. What is our standard?

We are no longer talking RULE OF LAW since the attempted impeachment of Pres.Clinton.

What rule are we using now?

Save our Postal System the USPS: post wanted pics of bank robbers at the post office with a 50/50 reward system. We all know at least one.

There are solutionS to are economic problems, if you look for them.
04:48 AM on 05/13/2012
Well if you need some money look here!
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04:38 AM on 05/13/2012
Big shock... Wait till recession two, electric boogaloo comes to town.

Honestly, why should they change? No one has been punished for almost destroying the economy.