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Nancy Pelosi, John Boehner Trade Barbs Over Prospect Of Another Debt Limit Fight

Posted: Updated: 05/17/2012 5:14 pm

WASHINGTON -- House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) on Thursday slammed House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) for sparking another potential showdown over tying an increase in the debt ceiling to trillions in spending cuts.

"They did it before. Here we go again," Pelosi told reporters during her weekly briefing.

"To toss this into the mix right now, saying we have to have cuts that exceed ... the extent that we lift the debt ceiling is really immature. Irresponsible. Let's get serious," she said.

Boehner made waves earlier this week when he said he will "insist" that matching spending cuts be linked to raising the debt limit when it hits its cap late this year or early next year. When Republicans made the same demand last year, the U.S. nearly defaulted on its debt for the first time in history and the country's sterling Standard & Poor's credit rating got downgraded. Thousands of federal workers were also kept on edge for months as they waited to see whether they would be paid in the event of a default. Congress ultimately raised the debt ceiling, at the last minute, and reduced the deficit by $2.1 trillion.

Pelosi said the mere fact that Boehner is bringing up the prospect of another fight over raising the debt ceiling is potentially harmful for the economy. She noted that even though lawmakers averted default last year, the nation's credit rating was still lowered because credit rating agencies lost confidence that Congress would be able to address deficit matters.

"So this is not a wholesome debate. It already can be damaging, just the fact that it's brought up," Pelosi said of Boehner's talk of making spending cuts part of the equation again. "I think that we should snuff it out immediately."

But Senate Republican leaders have already begun lining up behind Boehner's demand. And in his Thursday briefing with reporters, Boehner doubled down that it's time for Congress to address the debt in a serious way.

"The only ones who are talking about drama or brinksmanship are my Democratic colleagues across the aisle," Boehner said. "We can use the debt limit debate to force Washington to act, to cut spending and enact some of the real reforms that will help put America on a path to prosperity."

"The White House wants to raise the debt limit without a single dime of spending cuts or reforms. Listen, with nearly $16 trillion in debt already, it's not credible," he said. "We need a president who will show up and work with us, both Democrats and Republicans, to address these pressing concerns."

Of course, one of the biggest obstacles to achieving a significant deficit reduction deal last year was that Republicans would not accept new revenues in the mix with massive spending cuts. Democrats were pushing for tax hikes on the wealthy and assurances that Medicare and Social Security would be part of the agreement, but Republicans wouldn't accept either.

Boehner was asked Thursday if he would support new revenues this time around, but he demurred, instead doubling down on the need to begin talking about addressing the debt. Asked if he could envision a scenario in which Republicans agreed to raise the debt ceiling before the November elections without tying it to spending cuts, Boehner said it would be difficult.

"When the president told me yesterday that he wanted a clean increase in the debt limit, it almost took my breath away," he said. "I reminded the president that when we put that idea on the floor of the House, it got about 20 votes."

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behindEnemyLines 02:14 PM on 05/17/2012
The Senate does not have the authority to increase the debt ceiling without FIRST passing a budget resolution.... Well at least not lawfully. 

2 USC § 634 - CONCURRENT RESOLUTION ON THE BUDGET MUST BE ADOPTED BEFORE BUDGET-RELATED LEGISLATION IS CONSIDERED

(a) In generalUntil the concurrent resolution on the budget for a fiscal year has been agreed to, it shall not be in order in the  Read More...
09:34 AM on 05/20/2012
turn the lights out and go home, america is far better off without the washington fat cats, that includes everybody
03:09 PM on 07/27/2012
Makes one wonder. Complete anarchy. No rules, no laws, or if you have laws, no one to enforce them. Would everyone continue on as if nothing had changed? My guess is the answer to that is no. In consequence to the lack of law enforcement, crime would increase, especially burglaries and robbery. In consequence to the increased crime, the NRAers would start walking around with machine guns. The criminally-minded would also arm themselves with the most dangerous weapons available. There would be street fighting between the two groups that would continue to escalate over time. Innocent people would be killed on a routine basis. Violent crime would now routinely include murder, kidnapping, and outright terrorism. Terror would reign supreme. Sounds like a plan to me.
01:30 PM on 05/19/2012
Pelosi and Berry want to throw inocent Americans in prison if they (you) do not buy their forced dictatorship health insurance!!! the New IRS costopo is going to inforce it as Obama AKA Berry Soretoro continues to take American freedoms away! http://youtu.be/9TJb7trBXk8
01:16 PM on 05/19/2012
Come on Nancy, how about a little more illegal insider trading while your at it, the little people won't notice right? oh and how about another trip to fly your family in on an Airforce jet at $75.000.00 of our tax money per pop, instead of a comercial jet at under $1,000
11:07 AM on 05/19/2012
"When the president told me yesterday that he wanted a clean increase in the debt limit, it almost took my breath away," In all due respect Mr. Speaker, there is a reason you have shortness of breath. There's a new book out, authored by the tobacco industry....It's called Cancer/Heart Disease for Dummies.....You should pick up a copy.
10:11 AM on 05/19/2012
Hear ye hear ye, the community organizer in the WH is responsible for the state of the union and it ain't pretty. Lost our top credit rating and intends to keep spending and executive ordering us into third world status, you know like his birth place, according to his book publisher, not me.
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joestecher
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01:57 PM on 05/19/2012
Go back under your rock, disc because you are a dummy. Every credibile economist and policy-maker agrees that the way out of our current dulcrums oinclude increasing taxes, epsecially on the wealthy (i.e., taxing wall street trades, treating romney type income as income, not capital gains) and increasing spending, especially in trasnfers to state and local government to re-hire teacheres, plice and firefighters and to spend on the country's infrasturcture, because it is deteriorating at a very rapdi rate. so please, either educate yourself or go back under the rock.
05:05 PM on 05/19/2012
I know you're sad because your guy sucks. BTW your comment belies your mentality; cops, teachers and firemen are a local gov't duty not federal. Do you know why they can't afford them? Because your guy crapped the bed. His vision is a welfare state and all who buy into it will stay on welfare cause that's where he needs you so you can vote for him and his party to keep the crumbs coming. We want everyone to succeed and enjoy the structure that allows people to buy houses and second houses. If only your ilk believed in yourselves you'd be amazed at what you could accomplish in the greatest system in the world that sure as hell didn't need a community organizer to fundamentaly transform it.
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idisVA
08:41 PM on 05/18/2012
Some Republican freshmen have started defying Grover Norquist and his tax plead because they have come to see how asinine such a pledge is. The deficit will never be addressed without increasing taxes. Republicans want all the animities society has on offer, including but not limited to a strong and well-equipped military that goes around ordering people around the world, yet they don't want to be taxed. I say balderdash.
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ennis438
08:37 PM on 05/18/2012
Trillions in spending cuts sounds good. Let's allow Boehner to enact cuts. Cuts in corporate welfare, wasteful defense spending , and elimination of three decades of giveaways to fatcats and useless billionaires sounds great. If Boehner and his Taliban want cuts, this is where they will come from. No more Republipunk wars on women and the poor and middle class. Ms. Pelosi should allow Boehner's Taliban to either put up or shut up. Enact cuts that undo three decades of terrorism on the poor and middle class, or shut up about budget cut blabber from Boehner and his crooked friends.
03:14 PM on 05/18/2012
See how we are here in this Country... we should all be up in Arms over wanting to spend more and not cutting... How can we put this bill on our Grandchildren? There are so many programs they could cut to pay for debts so that we don't have to spend. To me this is common sense..
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joestecher
a frail imagination, unequal to the tasks before i
02:01 PM on 05/19/2012
Please stop accting so stupid. if we increase spending, especially intelligently, (cut the dorporate welfare, reduce the defense budget) and transfer funds to state and local government and rebuild the infrasture. the monies will come back in triple as the economy begins to boom and revenues increase. wala, your grandchildren will be living in a healthy, prosperous nation. if we continue to cut, cut, cut they will be living in a third world country -- which we fast becoming as the wealthy get wealthier and the rest of suck the hind one.
08:43 AM on 05/20/2012
I can see you are not acting stupid .. you are stupid! You are addicted to Government hand outs and the Give Me way of life. The idea that you would cut Military Spending to support handouts makes me sick. Tells me you do not have a clue what is important to the security of this Country. What we need are those jobs that Obama promised when he was running... what we need is to stop taxing Corporations so much so they will come back to the USA and bring some jobs back here ... We need to get back to teaching our Children to not depend on the Government for success to make their own way in life ... The Government cannot now nor tomorrow afford to take care of everyone... Family's need to step up to the plate and help each other ... not the Governments job to take care of you or your family. You do it... We take care of ours and stop being class envy and Thank God for the Rich because they are the ones that give lots of money every year to organizations. Class Envy is ugly.
02:54 PM on 05/18/2012
The Secret Service scandal was discovered when a disagreement on how much a prostitute wanted for her services came to light. She wanted $800.00. The Secret Service Agent offered $30.00. How ironic is it that the only person in Washington willing to cut spending gets fired?
02:45 PM on 05/18/2012
The "fiscal conservatives" have proven over and over again that they are only "conservative" with other peoples money. When it comes to themselves, spending is okay. Just look at the recent news story about G.W. Bush taking more tax dollars than ANY other president in history . But he has an "R" by his name, so it must be okay.
03:05 PM on 05/18/2012
Former President Bill Clinton is requesting more than $1 million not too far from Bush but that don't matter right... I think it is disgusting that any of them get any of it... Their Pay should cover it and they can write Business Expenses off their Taxes... Just like everyone else does. IMO
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01:33 PM on 05/18/2012
"Pelosi, Boehner Trade Barbs Over Prospect Of Another Debt Limit Fight"

Fortunately for Boehner, he had just finished reading the blockbuster best seller, "Arguing With Idiots!"
01:39 PM on 05/18/2012
I heard he practiced on himself, looking at a mirror.
He lost...
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11:16 AM on 05/19/2012
You must have heard it from another equally deranged liberal! There are certainly plenty to choose from on this finge site!
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canon940
Christ is the Answer
12:53 PM on 05/18/2012
Republicans must hold out for citting spending. We cannot continues to send money to over 150 countries, fight their wars, rebuild their cities and their mosques and arm them. That is total insanity.

And Hillary Clintons State Department is one of the biggest violators of our tax money, distributing it on a daily basis. We have to change this administration. And many of our veterans go hungry and live on the streets.....go figure. Remember, Obama said that "they were all volunteers, so why should we take care of them"..
01:36 PM on 05/18/2012
And who was it that built a $1 Billion embassy in Bagdad?
Who spent a $1 Trillion on foreign wars?
Which President pulled assets out of Afghanistan to prep for an unnecessary preemptive war in Iraq?
Which party sent $1 Billion in cash to Iraq, never to be seen again?
Which party sent our soldiers to Iraq without body armor, or up armored Humvees?
Which party voted to cut VA benefits?

Answer these questions, and you'll find out who is insane...

Please send us all a link to your Obama quote.
It is so preposterous, I can not believe it.
02:34 PM on 05/18/2012
seeing is believing, here is the link: http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/o/obama-veteran-insurance.htm
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canon940
Christ is the Answer
03:07 PM on 05/18/2012
I'll answer your question quickly........George Bush is not presdent today, nor for the last three plus years. You guys gotta let go of "Blame Bush" and start "Blaming Obama". Live in the reality of today's world.
12:47 PM on 05/18/2012
Read this in Rueters July 27, 2011
The fact is that Treasury can easily cover interest payments from tax revenues alone. We raise about $180 billion a month in taxes; interest payments come to about $30 billion a month. If the government shut down completely and did nothing but collect taxes and pay off the national debt, it would be running a profit of a good $150 billion a month.

Does that mean if we shut down the government for 8 years we would have most of the debt payed off? Sounds like a good plan to me! - just a sarcastic, but yet interesting idea.
09:18 PM on 05/18/2012
You assume that interest rates will not go up and that people will continue to pay taxes in a country that provides the same services as the Somali government.
10:42 PM on 05/18/2012
So are you saying we would need to shut the government down longer? I like the way you think!
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canon940
Christ is the Answer
12:41 PM on 05/18/2012
You know pwople, with all this political babble going on about raising the debt ceiling again, all our taxes are going to take us closer to the poor house in 2013. Obama and his democrat cohorts in the Senate have just about thrown out all the Bush tax cuts and we are all going to suffer as a result of their actions

. Americans can expect to see the following tax consequences starting next year:
- Income tax rates shoot up,
- The child credit is cut in half,
- The marriage penalty roars back,
- The capital gains tax rate goes up,
- The dividend tax rate soars,
- The payroll tax rate jumps two percentage points,
- The death tax is restored to its punitive past,
- The Alternative Minimum Tax relief expires, and
- A uniquely pernicious additional payroll tax hike from Obamacare takes effect.

When are people going to throw aside these distractions and start to look at the real world of the Obama administration? You really want four more years of this mess?
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emiliob6
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02:18 AM on 05/19/2012
Bush tax cuts benefit mostly the top 1% the top 1% are doing just fine, the tax cuts were supposed be for 10 yrs , they were extended for an additional year, we can not afford 700 billion dollars in tax cuts when we are running a deficit and we can't balance the budget on the backs of the most vulnerable... what you posted is a baseless opinion with no facts or as Boehner would say chicken crap..
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canon940
Christ is the Answer
10:22 AM on 05/19/2012
Not with the way democrats are throwing money out of the Treasury in all directions. What do you have to say about all of Obama's bankrupt "green" companies going bankrupt?

We have to cut taxes for the average American like me and keep them cut.

BTW, your "1% ers" that you refer to includes Obama and all of the democrat senators in Congress. BTW also, the top 5% pay 75% of our taxes, so don't be too hard on them.