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Facebook IPO: Share Flippers Risk Lifetime Ban For Selling Too Soon

Reuters  |  By Posted: Updated: 05/18/2012 10:12 am


By John McCrank and Jessica Toonkel

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Investors who managed to buy Facebook Inc shares ahead of the No. 1 social network's initial public offering might want to think twice before "flipping" them.

Brokerages can impose restrictions on participating in future IPOs for those trying to profit from market debuts. Some serial flippers could even face lifetime bans.

Strong demand for the third-largest initial share sale in U.S. history has fueled anticipation of a big pop in Facebook's stock price once it begins trading on Friday. [ID:nL1E8GH5U4] Only Visa Inc and General Motors Co had bigger IPOs.

While investors are free to sell the shares they picked up via an IPO whenever they want, many brokerages have policies in place aimed at discouraging the practice of selling them too soon, because holding onto the shares post-IPO supports the issuer and the stock.

Main Street-focused E*Trade Financial, along with TD Ameritrade, and Charles Schwab Corp, define "flipping" as buying shares of an IPO and selling them within 30 days from the date the IPO goes public.

E*Trade and TD Ameritrade reserve the right to exclude customers who flip shares from participating in future IPOs, according to their websites.

Schwab clients who flip shares from a public offering are restricted from participating in initial and secondary public offerings through Schwab for 90 days, said spokesman Michael Cianfrocca.

At Fidelity Investments, customers can sell after 15 days without raising any red flags.

"But if they sell within 15 days, they'll be prevented in participating in another IPO for 180 days," said spokesman Steve Austin.

If clients buy a second IPO and sell that offering before the 15-day period, they'll be prevented from buying an IPO through the firm for an entire year. The third time triggers a lifetime ban on IPO deals through Fidelity, Austin said.

ADVISERS ALSO ON THE HOOK

Wells Fargo Advisors, the brokerage subsidiary of Wells Fargo & Co, takes back its advisers' commissions if their clients sell shares from an IPO within 30 days, said two advisers at the firm who asked not to be named because they are not allowed to talk to the press.

Those clients and advisers will also have a tougher time getting access to future IPOs at the firm, the advisers said.

Wells, like many brokerage firms, has a scoring system for allocating shares among its more than 15,000 brokers. It weighs an adviser's annual revenue production, how much IPO work they do and how long their clients held positions in prior IPOs, according to one Wells broker.

If clients flip shares within the 30 days, that adviser's score goes down and the adviser is less likely to get future access to IPOs for clients.

Bank of America Merrill Lynch has a similar scoring system for its advisers, a spokeswoman said, as does UBS, according to an adviser at the firm.

A UBS spokeswoman declined to comment on the firm's policies regarding IPO shares other than to say that the firm had policies in place.

(Additional reporting by Lauren Young; Editing by Walden Siew and Richard Chang)

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DBG Enterprises
There are lies, damned lies and Fox News”
09:08 AM on 05/21/2012
20% of all users on FB are in the age group of 13-17 evenly divided male & female...
26% of all users on FB are in the age group of 18-26 again evenly divided male & female...

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Here is a company whose biggest asset in the number of people an advertiser can reach, yet almost half of its users are on the very bottom when it comes disposable income and income in general, with a P/E of 122.37 where is this growth potential to come from?

Add to that rules screw the small investor I see alot of loss potential not growth...FB is aready down below its opening price in after hours trading.
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Robert SF
02:46 PM on 05/20/2012
I see... so the wealthy people who had pre-IPO shares could dump them at the opening bell, and they did. But the Joe Shmoes who foolishly bought shares at the opening bell now can't unload them for two weeks?
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PuSencer
Where are we going in this handbasket?
05:11 PM on 05/20/2012
isn't that how wall street goes, though? it's good for these a the top to 'flip' stocks or use inside information- but, for us it's illegal.
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Robert SF
05:36 PM on 05/20/2012
They don't even feel the need to pretend the game is fair anymore.
06:28 PM on 05/20/2012
From what I read here if you bought the stock before the IPO then selling it at the bell or within 30 days gets you banned. Buying it after the bell rang and then reselling causes no problems. So the wealthy who got the pre-IPO shares are stuck but not the Joe Schmoes who bought them once trading started.
PhantomShadow
Think what you want about me. You will anyway.
10:31 AM on 05/20/2012
If I was a owner of shares in this company, I'd dump them as soon as I safely could. FB might be a popular site, but where's (and what are) the earnings?
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cobry1112
10:37 PM on 05/19/2012
then they will loose customers by the thousands,.
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Danlar
it's fun to have fun but you have to know how
09:06 PM on 05/19/2012
Funkiest hugest worst PR IPO ever........the word has gotten out via internet and social networking.....the stock price is pretty hard to justify......a 700% earnings increase is already "baked into" the price....... disclosure, I bought a measly 5 shares, I am free to flip at any time but that might take years ...too expensive....see more than 100x PE ratio
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djsmps
Not a democrat, not a republican
08:05 PM on 05/19/2012
This is a funny article in hindsight.
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William Diaz
Passive-Aggressive word salad tossed here!
07:24 PM on 05/19/2012
Anyone that bought into that IPO deserves everything they have coming to them. If the value of a share is more than $10 a year from now I would be surprised. Now would be a great time to short this stock.

Have a great day!
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06:53 PM on 05/19/2012
Why does this remind me of the 1920s? The fact that big investors had the most access to buy is unseemly at least.
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oneyippie
Leaning far to your left
11:53 AM on 05/19/2012
Perhaps they don't want small traders to sell so that they can short their stocks before they sell and make money while the trader who bought the stock must sit on it as it falls in value.
10:34 AM on 05/19/2012
FBInc. - nuff said.
09:33 AM on 05/19/2012
Just another example that the market is not a level playing field and the best financial talent in the world Needs To Cheat.
11:41 PM on 05/18/2012
I wouldn't touch this stock with a 10 foot pole.
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10:10 PM on 05/18/2012
you didn't need to buy them from a broker, they were avail. on the open market for the same price without any of that nonsense
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Steve Rockett
08:26 PM on 05/18/2012
One of the most idiotic events of the decade.
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mandalay007
07:08 PM on 05/18/2012
haw----let them eat cake------and find out the hard way------today, it closed at what it opened at--------hopefully it will drop another 5 on monday--------later these same fools will want a class action that they were not given accurate info., and, of course, it is their own greedy, stupid fault-----I could care less how much they lose and whether they are banned. Effectively, they are stock and ipo riff-raff---