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Obama’s Journey To Reshape Afghan War

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First Posted: 05/20/2012 12:52 pm Updated: 05/20/2012 12:52 pm

nytimes.com:

It was just one brief exchange about Afghanistan with an aide late in 2009, but it suggests how President Obama's thinking about what he once called "a war of necessity" began to radically change less than a year after he took up residency in the White House.

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It was just one brief exchange about Afghanistan with an aide late in 2009, but it suggests how President Obama's thinking about what he once called "a war of necessity" began to radically change less...
It was just one brief exchange about Afghanistan with an aide late in 2009, but it suggests how President Obama's thinking about what he once called "a war of necessity" began to radically change less...
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Steamboater 03:47 PM on 05/20/2012
“CHICAGO (AP) — The United States and NATO leaders insist the Afghanistan fighting coalition will remain whole despite France's plans to yank combat troops out early, but leaders wary of plummeting public support for the war are using an alliance summit Sunday to show they want to move quickly away from the front lines.”

“Nato's generals will eventually retreat to Kabul. There they will  Read More...
my addition)  interventionists care to enjoy a lethal cocktail of incoming mortars and outgoing pie in the sky.”

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jul/08/afghanistan-catastrophe-chilcot

“Obama) will announce what he has already told the leaders in private: All combat operations led by American forces will cease in summer 2013, when the United States and other NATO forces move to a “support role” whether the Afghan military can secure the country or not.”

After the fact and after the fact that Obama just signed us to another 10 years in Afghanistan. It’s the same old story, pulling out combat troops and relabeling thousands left behind as something else wand with their lives on the line every day. There’s snot one good reason to stay in Afghanistan a minute later than yesterday. It’s too late now though. Not only has Obama committed 100 billion dollars of our money over the next 10 years to Karzai and his pack of thieves, this war doesn’t end for us and remember, a pact made can always be extended.
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07:22 PM on 05/21/2012
There was no strategy then (in the sense of winning a war). Neither is there one now.

There is, however, a profit motive.
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Mr MOTO
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08:46 AM on 05/21/2012
Does this sound 'reluctant'?

"Throughout this campaign, I have argued that we need more troops and more resources to win the war in Afghanistan, and to confront the growing threat from al Qaeda along the Pakistani border…”

“Make no mistake: we are confronting an urgent crisis in Afghanistan, and we have to act. It's time to heed the call from General McKiernan and others for more troops. That's why I'd send at least two or three additional combat brigades to Afghanistan."

October 22, 2008 - Then Canidate-Obama
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Mr MOTO
VMFA 112 MAG 41 4th MAW
08:39 AM on 05/21/2012
3 carrier fleets in the Gulf

4 mine sweeping units in the Gulf

In February, the President's Pentagon asked for and received tens of billions in 'emergency funding' to upgrade the bunker-buster

It's been outed that the US is building emergency hospitals through-out the country of Georgia.
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Poster9999
Opinion without thought means it's not your truth
08:22 AM on 05/21/2012
Summer 2013? Better hope he wins then, and hope this just another "once I get (re)elected" promise like gitmo. Hard to say what Romney would do if he wins in 2012 being he hasn't taken a stance.
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Mr MOTO
VMFA 112 MAG 41 4th MAW
08:20 AM on 05/21/2012
"Mr. Obama had reluctantly decided to order a surge of more than 30,000 troops."

Reluctantly?!?! He ran on the surge platform during the campaign!
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rothomaha
The Truth will out
07:53 AM on 05/21/2012
Asking a general's opinion about a war is just about as stupid as having Jamie Daimon sitting on the Federal Reserve Board! A trained killer will always advocate for more killing, or at least slowing down the killing as little as possible - it is called "having a vested interest" in the outcome. Truman knew this, when he consulted amongst the diplomats in his cabinet and then threw out McArthur, who had been even more critical and subordinate toward him than McChrystal toward Obama. Ask us, Mr. President - we are the ones who pay the bills!
sossity
All politics is loco
06:43 AM on 05/21/2012
Karl will read this & figure out how to turn it against the Prez.
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crew977
08:04 AM on 05/21/2012
Nixon or Bar ry?
sossity
All politics is loco
11:54 PM on 05/21/2012
Yer a riot, Alice!
05:48 AM on 05/21/2012
“We had been at war for eight years, and no one could explain the strategy.” Are you kidding me? We had no strategy that could be explained in just a few sentences? Why the h*** were we there? That means there was no real mission statement. Our troops were thrashing around, fighting manfully, but spending their time on tactics. That's Vietnam all over again. It's a ticket punching, ribbon awarding exercise. It gives the military something to do. Bad deal. Send our troops there to get body parts shot off for no reason? Thanks Bush and Republicans. Creeps.
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kinogod
word farmer
06:42 AM on 05/21/2012
Exactly.
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OldHick
05:38 AM on 05/21/2012
Obama going over generals- is a possible sign of danger. He has never proven he is eligible for office, and up until 2007 was telling everyone that he was born in Kenya. Now he is changing his story to saying he did that so he could work with Ralph Nader. He is slick, but almost certainly he forged a document of proof for federal office, ex post facto, and that is a crime. He should be impeached. How many people will not vote for a person who was telling everyone he was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia? The DEMS should chose a different candidate.
theaustralian
to the far left of right wing democrats
06:09 AM on 05/21/2012
do you know why an American president has to be born America? it goes back to centuries ago when the founding fathers decided to add in a law to stop Alexander Hamilton becoming president, since Hamilton was born in the Caribbean.
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Poster9999
Opinion without thought means it's not your truth
08:24 AM on 05/21/2012
coo coo.
05:03 AM on 05/21/2012
Put that trillion dollars over ten years into American renewable energy infrastructure and let that bleak and miserable part of the world go back to religious versions of Hatfields vs McCoys until they run out of bullets.
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Bravo Bravo
Ruled with your consent
03:29 AM on 05/21/2012
Obama surged triple the troops to Afghanistan, taken the Israeli_position of assuming total responsibility for an "unstable, nuclear" Pakistan all in a span of 3 years. Then, suddenly, 6 months before the 2012 election, the antiwar propaganda to suit 72% of Americans flies.

There is no measurable way to test Obama's sincerity before the election.
05:50 AM on 05/21/2012
Read a bit more.
RealistBC
Micro-bios must pass muster.
02:24 AM on 05/21/2012
Generals don't like being told how to fight wars. One has to wonder if Obama ever read Seven Days in May. it could happen to him. Woe betide America if it does.
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06:27 AM on 05/21/2012
Good book, great movie ... and absolutely no chance it will happen to this president.
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vmf211
Fighting against Liberalism every day
02:24 AM on 05/21/2012
I guess it's beause of all of Obama's vast military knowledge and experience that he can cut the general's out.
RealistBC
Micro-bios must pass muster.
03:03 AM on 05/21/2012
Says the guy who glorifies obsolete military hardware as his avatar.
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03:20 AM on 05/21/2012
It's a constitutional republic. Generals have to be fired just for the fun of it on occasion. And in this case, they were just ignored.

If you fight against Liberalism every day, you probably don't value democracy much. Deep down, your opinions are probably close to treason. They should bring back the old punishment for you on that one.
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01:49 AM on 05/21/2012
American can't fix it own country but would vote Romney in to waste another 3 trillion to try to change Iran.
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Fi
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03:54 AM on 05/21/2012
Yip!
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01:41 AM on 05/21/2012
The strategy has always been the same. Americans have no idea who they are fighting. They just ride up and down the street looking to see if anyone looks threatening and might fire back.
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06:28 AM on 05/21/2012
You don't sound like you've ever been part of the real one percenters, those who've actually served.