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Positive Thinking: Questioning Its Power

First Posted: 06/07/2012 7:46 am Updated: 08/04/2012 5:12 am

"You will attract everything that you require. If it's money you need you will attract it. If it's people you need you'll attract it. You've got to pay attention to what you're attracted to, because as you hold images of what you want, you're going to be attracted to things and they're going to be attracted to you. But it literally moves into physical reality with and through you. And it does that by law." -Bob Proctor/Rhonda Byrne, "The Secret"

That's a pretty powerful statement. It resonates emotionally, even if it doesn't have a shred of evidentiary support. "The Secret" promises a universe that will deliver on the desires of those who occupy it, so long as they stay optimistic, determined, and of course, follow the simple steps laid out in its pages.

The power of positive thinking movement is the cornerstone upon which countless American self-help empires have been built. But does it really have the power it so often promises? Dr. James Coyne, director of the Behavioral Oncology Program at UPenn is skeptical. So am I.

To learn more, watch the video above and/or read the transcript below. And don't forget to sound off by leaving a comment at the bottom of the page. Come on, talk nerdy to me!

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Editor's Note: Although Eckhart Tolle does not overtly promulgate the power of positive thinking movement in his teachings, he was included in this video discussion as an example of the lack of scientific evidence within the self-help movement.

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"You will attract everything that you require. If it's money you need you will attract it. If it's people you need you'll attract it. You've got to pay attention to what you're attracted to, because a...
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ChrisInYao
There's impermanence to all things big and small
06:35 AM on 07/04/2012
If you're skeptical of your friend who feels positive about what they're doing, or going to do, for example, do you tell them to prove it? Do you tell them where's their evidence of that? The evidence is how you/they evaluate and measure your/their OWN life, not by science's evaluation.
This article also only covers the thinking aspect, it says nothing about positive attitudes or responsibility. Actually, it's taking personal responsibility for your life that fosters positiveness. If you take no responsibility for the positive things you think, it's pretty much useless. Yes, I think a person who glosses over a problem with positive thinking, such as someone who has a serious health problem, but is trying to be all smiles and joy, neglecting their health, probably isn't taking any responsibility for their own thoughts.
I wouldn't say this article's accurate because it unconvincingly tries to put the wrap over all positive thinking and fails to debunk anything, without any real investigation of people who do and do not take responsibility for themselves. I think this is where the article is lacking. As with most topics in Talk Nerdy to Me, they are beyond the scope of this publication.
06:49 AM on 06/21/2012
I agree with the article and the science - but I've read everything Robbins wrote - I don't think he's ever said "Think positively and you will get rich" or words close to those. I won't be walking on coals anytime soon, but comparing Robbins to the authors of "The Secret" seems more like cheap journalism than research.
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gerorem
Linus v. Lucy
08:51 PM on 06/17/2012
I hesitate to tell anyone to "snap out of it" because they may get it half right--and just snap.
01:46 PM on 06/15/2012
Eckhart Tolle has nothing to do with Tony Robbins. Loud, certain opinions about things we barely know anything about are mostly what's the matter with human beings.
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future primitive
Voice in the Wilderness
08:11 AM on 06/15/2012
If you get run over by a car, perhaps you were visualizing the car and the universe sent you the car, but you forgot to visualize yourself INSIDE the car. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et_jG58qg1k
03:18 PM on 06/14/2012
Another thing: I don't think it hurts to be positive and grateful as you live each day, though; it beats slumping around whining and complaining all the time. It's just that if you expect your life to miraculously change because you are thinking differently, you will be in for a rude awakening. In addition to being positive, you need to take action and be mindful of what is going on around you. If something isn't working out, all the positive mantras in the world aren't going to change it.
03:12 PM on 06/14/2012
These "positive thinking gurus" are very popular because they target people's unhappiness, and make it sound like it's easy to change your life - you just have to "think it wonderful" and it will be wonderful. They promise it can work on everything from health to wealth, etc. Doesn't is seem too, that everyone is a Guru these days? I think that the only ones getting wealthy are the ones who sell the most books, and who get the most public speaking gigs.
12:32 PM on 06/13/2012
Of course the power of positive thinking will make you rich... if you are marketing it just right! A sucker is born every minute and will pay you handsomely for telling him that even he has what it takes to become the next sliced bread!
05:49 PM on 06/12/2012
I am happy to see the magical thinking myths challenged. I understand Barbara Ehrenreich has a book now on how positive thinking is hurting the nation.

Even Louise Hays, founder of this movement with her book in the 1980s, is on video saying it's more complicated than just thinking.

My viewpoint, influenced by my understanding of the Hawaiin kahunas tradition: To "manifest" change, your subconscious must agree with your conscious mind. No amount of repetetive "positive statements" will create what you want unless the subconscious is in alignment.

Which raises the question of how to shift your unconscious, but that's another discussion.

Then there's the "higher self" or "Wisdom Self." If it is against your higher self's dictates, that is another obstacle to making it happen. (Negative events can be in your higher interest.)

That's my take on it, based largely on belief and personal experience.

-- Sexual Psychic Sallie
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Tomtom2
SomeOligarchs need a good old fashion Vulcan Pinch
09:47 PM on 06/11/2012
"But does it really have the power it so often promises?"

Yes it does. It makes the "new, new ager" people very wealthy. And that's what they envision for themselves.

Just in case people don't know what a new, new ager is, it's the scammers who exploit what the new age people brought to people for free in the 60's and turned it into a profit making endeavor.
09:56 AM on 06/10/2012
Wow! A story about the virtues of thinking negatively. Not sure that I need scientific research to prove to me that thinking positive sure feels a lot better than thinking pessimisticaly. Show me someone who is successful and does not think positvely and optimistically and I will perscribe to the so called science being talked about here.
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NiccoloM
10:10 AM on 06/16/2012
That's not what she is saying. She isn't saying think negative. She is saying that these positive thinking movements can become unrealistic. Being positive isn't bad except for when it becomes unrealistic and counterproductive.
02:45 AM on 06/10/2012
Why does everything need to be proven? Fear much? Scared of an unknown world? Me too but must we always be so sterile? So correct?
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Citats
Bring me that horizon.
10:36 AM on 06/10/2012
Knowledge is power.
03:30 PM on 06/10/2012
When one feels powerless, one values power. When one does not feel powerless, it doesn't matter as much about knowledge. Knowledge is ok, neat, cool, whatever. It helps a lot of the time. Personal experiential knowledge is usually sufficient to live an OK life.

All this in my opinion.
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BannedInBoston
Everyone is entitled to my opinion.
11:30 PM on 06/09/2012
I've always believed in the power of negative thinking because NOT attracting things I DON'T want has always been a bigger problem in my life than attracting things I do want. Does that make sense? I'm a man of relatively simple desires, but if I do want something, I generally get it without too much effort. It's just that it usually comes with a price and that price is always also getting something I don't want along with it....
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04:50 PM on 06/10/2012
Within a lot of those teachings (in the books,etc) is the concept that focusing on things you don't want actually attracts them to you. Because it's the focus of attention that is the key. That is one way of looking at your last sentence.

All of this is thought of in terms of energy. Ones experience is related to the nature of his/her overall energy.
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BannedInBoston
Everyone is entitled to my opinion.
06:31 PM on 06/10/2012
Oh, I'm very aware of that. I've even developed techniques for thinking (or not thinking) about things I don't want in such a way as not to attract them. (It does get a bit twisted on occasion!) But we can't control everything, not even all our thoughts....
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gerorem
Linus v. Lucy
08:48 PM on 06/17/2012
Diets often are unsuccessful because they can be couched in terms of losing, stopping, denying, scrimping, avoiding, etc. Budgets the same way--reactive instead of pro-active.

Positive incentives vs. negative incentives focus.
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lawa
row, row your boat
07:58 PM on 06/09/2012
and vice versa
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WoodsideCraig
Author of the blog "The Weiler Psi"
07:13 PM on 06/09/2012
Positive thinking, as promoted by books such "The Secret" is, in my experience, very much as described in this article. However I have my reservations about accepting their point of view uncritically. In general, the people doing this sort of testing lack an understanding of the nuances of the situation, which may be much harder to test for.

In particular, I think that there is a difference between passive positive thinking and action oriented positive intent. The people that I have known who have beaten death were very hands on with decision making, often going against the advice of medical experts to explore non conventional treatments that worked wonders for them. These people would not have been part of this study group because they wouldn't be there.