This is an illustration of a classic flying saucer often reported by eyewitnesses, including pilots. But astronomers say that those who report these objects are mostly cranks.
Astronomers -- the men and women who study the stars, galaxies and beyond -- have an almost universal agreement that there's nothing of scientific interest when it comes to the subject of UFOs.
In fact, many professionals who gaze into the heavens actually speak about UFO sightings with disdain -- even though countless military officials, heads of state, newsmakers and commercial pilots have said they've seen unidentified flying objects.
"No serious astronomer gives any credence to any of these stories," said Lord Martin Rees, the official U.K. astronomer royal.
(Courtesy of Lucinda Douglas-Martin)
Rees, author of the new book, "From Here To Infinity: A Vision For The Future Of Science," told The Huffington Post that, while "everyone's fascinated by aliens," he's in favor of the ongoing SETI Institute program -- the search for extraterrestrial intelligence.
"We should look by all possible techniques," Rees said. "We've no idea what's out there, and so we should look for anything that might seem to be some sort of artifact rather than something natural."
While Rees said he hopes real extraterrestrials will be detected within the next 40 years, he's completely and "utterly unconvinced" that any ETs have been visiting Earth.
"I think most astronomers would dismiss these," Rees said. "I dismiss them because if aliens had made the great effort to traverse interstellar distances to come here, they wouldn't just meet a few well-known cranks, make a few circles in corn fields and go away again."
Nevertheless, in a recent HuffPost blog, SETI Institute senior astronomer Seth Shostak wrote about the daily emails he receives from people describing "alien sightings, extraterrestrial plans for Earth, and agitated screeds about the reluctance of scientists to take the whole subject seriously."
(Courtesy of Seth Shostak)
Shostak said very few of those emails "are penned by hoaxers. The correspondents are sincere, and many simply wish to help us in our search for evidence of extraterrestrial intelligence."
While Shostak may at first appear sympathetic to folks claiming that aliens are already here, he said he sees no real evidence.
"It's hard to believe that the aliens have cleverly arranged things so that only governments can find convincing evidence of their presence. ... The fact is, if you're certain that our planet is hosting alien visitors, the way to gain acceptance for your point of view is to prove it."
Are We Alone In The Universe? Lord Martin Rees And Seth Shostak Explore The Possibilities:
Another astronomer, James McGaha, said he agrees with Rees' contention that UFO reports should be dismissed.
"I totally agree with that. Rees is making what I call an elegant argument," McGaha, a retired Air Force pilot and director of the Grasslands Observatory in Tucson, Ariz., told HuffPost.
McGaha held a top secret security clearance during his career and was directly involved with classified projects at the now-legendary Area 51 military facility in Nevada. He's a fellow of the Royal Astronomical Society and has discovered numerous asteroids and comets.
McGaha is also a UFO debunker.
(Courtesy of James McGaha)
"I've got over 40,000 hours looking at the night sky, and I've never seen -- not once in 50 years -- something that I didn't know what it was. I've seen many strange things, but never anything I couldn't identify," McGaha said.
"Most professional astronomers don't look at the sky. Most of them sit in a room with computers and image the sky, so they don't ever go outside and look, and many of them don't know how to actually identify the constellations in the sky -- it's unfortunate, but that's the way it is."
McGaha gives no credence to any of the tens of thousands of UFO sightings or encounters that reliable people have reported.
"I don't think there's a single observation or report that I'm aware of that indicates an alien spacecraft -- not one," he said. "And I've looked at all of the important cases.
"Scientists are very sensitive to evidence and data. What physical evidence is there that an alien spacecraft has actually ever visited Earth? There is none, zero. And until there is -- an artifact, a piece, an alien -- scientists will not even think about investigating this," he said.
McGaha concedes -- just a little -- that UFOs, or alien ships, "are not impossible. If there's an intelligent race out there, they could build a spacecraft and get here. It would be very difficult, would require enormous resources and motivation to do it. It's not impossible, but highly unlikely."
Others disagree about the rift between scientists and the UFO "community."
"I'm dismayed by the lack of understanding between the two groups," said journalist Nick Pope, who used to investigate UFOs for the U.K. Ministry of Defense.
(Courtesy of Nick Pope)
"Unless they've studied the phenomenon, astronomers are no more qualified to talk about UFOs than ufologists are to talk about, say, titanium oxide production in K-type stars. It's like marine biologists and oil company executives saying they understand each other's fields because they're both looking for something in the sea. The sea is about the only thing they have in common. So it is with astronomers, ufologists and the sky," Pope wrote in an email to HuffPost.
Initially a skeptic, Pope's years at the Ministry of Defense led him to believe that, at the very least, the UFO subject was "worthy of proper, scientific research. Especially where one has, for example, photos, videos or radar data, because such things can be studied in a proper, scientific manner. It's unscientific to ignore data simply because it doesn't fit your worldview."
Pope is one of several speakers -- including retired Air Force and Army colonels -- who are taking part in a special lecture on Sept. 22, titled "Military UFOs: Secrets Revealed," to be held at the National Atomic Testing Museum in Las Vegas.
Are these real UFOs ... or something else?
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Lanterns
These candle-lit Chinese lanterns can rise high into the sky and are often mistaken for UFOs.
Melbourne, Australia, Feb. 2013
This is a composite image of how three alleged UFOs maneuvered about in the sky over Melbourne, Australia, in early February, 2013. The final verdict isn't in yet on whether they're birds, aircraft, balloons, bugs or something truly unidentified.
Exploding Weather Balloons, Not UFOs
On Dec. 20, 2012, a bright, circular object (pictured at the top of this composite image) was videotaped exploding in the skies above Sacramento, Calif. It wasn't immediately identified, resulting in speculation that it was either an alien spacecraft, military top secret weapon, runaway planet, North Korean satellite, among others. Within a short period of time, it became apparent that this was a weather balloon. The bottom part of this image shows such a balloon as it ascended over Tampa Bay, Fla., on July 2, 2012, and exploded in an identical manner as the Sacramento object, probably much to the dismay of all true ET believers out there.
Boomerang UFO composite images -- 10-5-12
This is a composite of images shot by two eyewitnesses of a boomerang-shaped UFO they reported seeing over their Burbank, Calif., home on Oct. 5, 2012. Mutual UFO Network photo/video analyst Marc Dantonio concluded the object was likely "a balloon, floating on the wind that has collapsed in half."
Changing UFO Pattern -- Warren, Mich. 1-10-13
This four-image series of lights in the sky was recorded over Warren, Mich., on Jan. 10, 2013. The lights were seen changing into several patterns. The most logical explanation for these types of UFOs is a series of balloons or lanterns.
UFOs Over Earth
This composite image shows four different times that alleged UFO were photographed above Earth by either space shuttles or the International Space Station. The big question is whether or not they are truly unidentified objects or if they are more likely reflections from spacecraft windows, meteors or fast-moving spacecraft-generated debris.
Pink UFOs Or Lens Flares?
What appear to be pink-red UFOs are actually lens flares from the Google Earth street view camera as it snapped images in Texas (left) and New Mexico (right).
Lens flares Arizona
These two flying saucer-shaped, pink-colored lens flares were created by the Google Maps camera as it drove through locations in Sedona, Ariz. (left) and Flagstaff, Ariz. (right). The images were snapped in April 2009. Submitted to HuffPost by trenna.
Lens flare Whiteriver, Ariz.
This skybound lens flare was created by a Google Maps camera in June 2008 over Whiteriver, Ariz. Submitted to Huffington Post by Cheryl Weeks.
Lens flare Gulfport, Miss.
This very Earthbound lens flare was created by a Google Maps camera in November 2007 at Gulfport, Miss. Submitted to Huffington Post by Jenni Parker.
Lens flare Eureka Springs, Ark.
This seemingly grounded lens flare was created by a Google Maps camera in January 2008 at Eureka Springs, Ark. Submitted to Huffington Post by SE.
Lens flare Escanaba, Mich.
This lens flare appears to be following a car. The Google Maps image was created in October 2008 at Escanaba, Mich. Submitted to Huffington Post by Mary Robinson.
Cincinnati Skydivers NOT UFOs Sept. 28, 2012
On the night of Sept. 28, 2012, a group of strange-looking lights appeared in the sky near Cincinnati, Ohio. First there was one, then, two, then three lights, slowly descending. It turns out, however, that these lights were originating from a group of skydivers performing a pyrotechnics jump at the La Salle High School homecoming event.
Weather Phenomenon
Some UFO sightings may be due to a natural phenomenon known as sprites, like this one shown from 2006. "Lightning from [a] thunderstorm excites the electric field above, producing a flash of light called a sprite," said geophysicist Colin Price.
Clouds
Clouds: Saucer-shaped or "lenticular" clouds that form at high altitudes have been confused with UFOs.
Blimps or Advertising Balloons
Blimps or advertising balloons: These can look like flying saucers from some angles, especially at night.
Sunken Ship in the Baltic Sea
On June 19th the Swedish-based diving company Ocean Explorer discovered something they've never quite seen before. They were exploring in the Baltic Sea between Sweden and Finland looking for sunken treasures when a very unusual image suddenly appeared on the sonar. A 197 feet diameter cylinder shaped object was discovered at the depth of approximately 275 feet which resembles the Millennium Falcon from the movie Star Wars.
Baltic Sea UFO 1
An image released on June 15, 2012, shows a close-up view of the unidentified object sitting on the bottom of the Baltic Sea.
Baltic Sea UFO 2
Close-up of rock bed that forms the Baltic Sea UFO, which still mystifies researchers.
Baltic Sea UFO 3
One of several odd stone circle formations, sitting on top of the unidentified object at the bottom of the Baltic Sea.
Antarctic UFO -- Aug. 10, 2012
A circular UFO hovers above the Neumayer-Station III research facility in Antarctica on Aug. 10, 2012. Theories ranging from a simple weather balloon to a more elaborate ship from another planet have run the Internet gamut. The next slide shows a closeup of the object.
Antarctic UFO Closeup -- Aug. 10, 2012
This is a closeup of the UFO from the previous slide. No official explanation has been offered about the object.
Manufactured UFO -- 2011
Pictured is a quad copter -- a deliberately manufactured UFO created by special effects wizard Marc Dantonio for a National Geographic special, "The Truth Behind: UFOs," which aired in December 2011. On the left is what the small device looks like resting on the ground, measuring 4 feet in circumference. At right, is how it appeared behind a tree in the night sky.
Police Dashboard Camera In Texas
In February of 2012, this fireball was captured by a Texas police chief's A dashboard camera. F.A.A. say this was probably a meteor, falling to Earth. .
Meteors
Meteors: Space debris can create a spectacular light show when it burns through the Earth's atmosphere, and sometimes reported as UFOs.
Civilian or Military Aircraft
Civilian or military aircraft: Planes can look mysterious at night or in certain light conditions, thus confusing an observer.
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Astronomers -- the men and women who study the stars, galaxies and beyond -- have an almost universal agreement that there's nothing of scientific interest when it comes to the subject of UFOs.
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There is more then ONE hard physical evidence. And if you work along with the ufo community, to get the governments to release the documents and information on ufos, all the hard evidence you need is there. Strange enough who do you think would have the " hard evidence "..? Would it not be the government? Who do you think will be the first at a crash site, or the first to follow a ufo, would it not be the government?
king_paul: There is more then ONE hard physical evidence. And if
Well Rees, You are not worthy quite simply put. Those of us Blessed to have witnessed a close encounter or caught a brief glimpse are enlightened ones. Called to be witnesses of these spiritual beings of either good or evil intent. I would guess that you are not a very spiritual person, not of a Holy nature and most likely not absorbed with the matters of Mother Nature. You in fact seem to be most content with your own existance, self obsorbed in the Me spirit. Get out Rees, connect with your creator, earth and live. That's what this is all about. Let go of you and embrace the awe of creation.
Rose_Blauvelt: Well Rees, You are not worthy quite simply put. Those
".... that UAP exist is indisputable.... and they are probably a hazard to safe aviation." - From the Executive Summary - and this is an impressively large document and all published on the MOD website.
The real problem hear involves egos and misunderstandings.... UAP, Unidentified Aerial
Phenomena exist and people including astronomers see them. Some rather famous ones have seen them, like Clyde Tombough, and J Allen Hynek was an astronomer as was Jacques Vallee.... The argument is really not accurately aimed. Its not that UAP aren't seen, they are - its that we still don't know what they are. They are probably a couple of things including poorly documented natural phenomena....more work needs to be done.
and before you start lecturing me on the meaning of UAP and unidentified go to www.narcap.org and see the actual definition of UAP...
1deepstar: Plenty of evidence but apparently Lord Martin Rees is unaware
Since you dont believe in the evidence presented by the ufo community, and its more then just shady videos and pictures, why dont you work along with the ufo community to ask the government to disclose its information on ufos and aliens. Since if anyone would have the hard evidence that you seek it would be them. Cause anyone with a half a brain would know that ufos are automatically a national security issues and not a scientific issue.
king_paul: Since you dont believe in the evidence presented by the
What qualifies an astronomer to know about extraterrestrial life? What does science actually know about extraterrestrial life ? Simple answer nothing. We're the only examples of life in the universe, and the scientists are arrogant enough to deny possibilities based on an example of one (us). I had some respect for Lord Rees, not when it comes to this.
The labcoats are always crying out for evidence, yet historically have done nothing to try and gather any. By ridiculing the subject and rejecting data supplied to them, they can of course say there's no evidence because they don't look, and science is reluctant to look because of the aforementioned ridicule. It's a catch 22.
To me Rees, Shostak et al will be remembered as those who denied the obvious, they can join the ranks of Lord Kelvin who claimed the Wright Brothers initial flight was a hoax because heavier than air flight was impossible. Or the countless other scientific ostriches throughout history who only end up looking stupid for living in denial.
UFO's whether extraterrestrial or not, deserves further study. Ignoring and mocking is so old hat now, anyone who does so without proper research is just a mouthpiece for those who just want to reinforce the absoluteness of the familiar. It says a lot about their psychiatric needs than it does about science.
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theaudiomonk: What qualifies an astronomer to know about extraterrestrial life? What
"What qualifies an astronomer to know about extraterrestrial life?"
Their background in observational science, which allows them to make better judgements about the content of observations than the average observer. Observing is what they do for a living.
"What does science actually know about extraterrestrial life ?"
It knows that extraterrestrial life has to play by the same rules of nature as life on Earth, which seems to be a lot more than you do.
"The labcoats are always crying out for evidence, yet historically have done nothing to try and gather any. "
Except that they have already found hundreds of extra-solar planets. How many have you found, lateely?
:-)
"By ridiculing the subject "
They aren't ridiculing the subject. They are ridiculing the BELIVERS in alien visitation who haven't done their homework. Can't you even make that trivial disctinction? That's not even highschool level reading comprehension.
:-)
"UFO's whether extraterrestrial or not, deserves further study."
Then why aren't you STUDYING them? Study DOES NOT mean religious belief. It means that you apply the possible science to a subject. So far your post is a scathing failure of logic and contains not a shred of a hint that you would even know where to begin.
FAIL. No different from all other believers.
SwiftJonathan: "What qualifies an astronomer to know about extraterrestrial life?" Their
If extraterrestrial life is found, you can bet it will probably be by astronomers. They are looking harder and with greater depth each day. Every time they find another planet around some distant star they look at it with hope of finding life. Sometimes I think they are a bit reaching in their conclusion. I don’t see the so called UFO groups, incorporating Science in there investigations. Even when they do apply science they look for answers that fits there point of view not the evidence. 22 years of looking for UFO’s and in all that time I was able to identify 99% of all the reports that I looked into. And that was what got me dismissed and called a debunker. I am the heretic of the UFO community. I would not follow doctrine, I would not simply accept on faith, I would not bow at the alter of Ufology and accept all without question.
black2deep: If extraterrestrial life is found, you can bet it will
Why would I want to believe? Why would anybody want to believe?
Things are either true, or false. There are aliens visiting Earth or they aren't. If there are aliens visiting Earth, then one can prove it with an observation.
And if there are not, then one can put observational limits on. Also with observations.
The only question here is how to do this professionally. Sadly, those folks who believe in alien visitation are not professional about it. And that's what I am pointing out.
Fair?
SwiftJonathan: Why would I want to believe? Why would anybody want
Prove all unidentified craft-like objects seen are man-made. The operative word is "all". The authorities will sometimes say it's "unidentified" or "unknown". Well if that is the case, please prove these unidentified things are all man made.
gscott10: Prove all unidentified craft-like objects seen are man-made. The operative
If you believe its possible that aliens can one day visit us...then why not believe they have in the past or in the present?
Unfortunately aliens may not be sloppy and lazy like humans leaving stuff behind...You can tell a human has been somewhere cause we love to leave garbage behind. So if some of the ancient megaliths are not evidence then, you may never find the archeological evidence you want. And considering if they are advanced beings im sure they dont leave their toys hanging around.
However if you believe its not possible for aliens to visit us...then you would have to prove that advance intelligent beings like us on another planet do not have the technology to travel here. And you need to realize your in the same boat of people who thought we would never land on the moon or mars.
king_paul: If you believe its possible that aliens can one day
"then why not believe they have in the past or in the present? "
Because that's no different from a religion, unless you can prove it.
You want to start a church? Start a church.
"Unfortunately aliens may not be sloppy and lazy like human"
Fortunately for us, aliens are bound by the same laws of nature as us. Even they can't get around the laws of thermodynamics. So, at the very least, they are leaving heat signatures behind. And those are detectable, whether they want it, or not.
:-)
"However if you believe its not possible for aliens to visit us...then you would have to prove that advance intelligent beings like us on another planet do not have the technology to travel here. "
More sloppy logic.
"And you need to realize your in the same boat of people who thought we would never land on the moon or mars."
Even more sloppy logic. We have been to the Moon, that can be proven, and we have not been to Mars, yet. Unless, of course, you are one of those who believe in the government having a secret Mart program... which, given your other beliefs, doesn't sound that unlikely.
:-)
SwiftJonathan: "then why not believe they have in the past or
um your like so corny. with your " sloppy logic " your responses are sloppy. When i said your in the same boat of people who thought we would never land on the moon or mars. Your response is we have been to the moon, that can be proven. Obviously the point of what i was saying is that there was people who would doubt that traveling to the moon or mars would ever be possible, this is obviously before it was possible to travel to the moon. Duh =
Heat signatures is your response to my statement that aliens would not leave physical things behind that may be considered as evidence? You got to be kidding me.
fortunately in one of your earlier post you said it is possible for aliens to travel here. Again if you say its possible, and ancient people stated that beings came from " heaven"/ space...then it may be true. im sure all space vehicles are not the same as you stated before..( which is way illogical to assume ) ...
Do spaceships leave evidence in the sky..no...Do spaceships leave evidence on the ground..Probably but considering they probably came here thousands of years ago, i doubt the evidence is still on the ground.
Truthfully im gonna stop because you think your talking logical and your not. Actually the way you sit and just post to nobody at all..It seems you need attention.
king_paul: um your like so corny. with your " sloppy logic
The question is, is it possible for aliens to visit earth? If you say no its not possible then thats one issue.
However if you say it is possible, then you cannot say ancient writings about men from " heaven " or recent claims from hill billies, governments and government employees are fake.
There will always be fake claims and fake videos, but as long as it is possible for aliens to visit us, inside of the countless claims and videos/ pictures there will be a real case.
king_paul: The question is, is it possible for aliens to visit
Aliens are only visible to people who want to see them.
Evidence for aliens is not to be shown outside of the sisterhood of alien believers.
Only true believers will be taken away from Earth to salvation when the end comes.
Wait... isn't that the plot line of a cult?
Yes, it is.
:-)
SwiftJonathan: I think the plot thickens. Aliens are only visible to
What we see here are garden variety of logical fallacies. The top 20 are represented here, eg, argument from authority, argument from ignorance. Basic Philosophy 101 stuff. Here's a handy top 20 list: http://www.theskepticsguide.org/resources/logicalfallacies.aspx
Wish more folks would understand logic at even the basic level. That would prevent a lot of goofiness,
cuoi: What we see here are garden variety of logical fallacies.
I am still looking for the location of the Nazca mountain top, that has been removed without leaving a trace.
Would somebody please tell us where it is?
And what happened to the hour long Phoenix lights video?
All these things have to exist. People on the internet are talking about them. There are books written about these subjects that seem to claim them. So where are they?
And whatever happened to the exotic matter that the aliens are using to build their warp drives with? Has that been found, yet? Can somebody point me to the discovery paper, please?
Anybody wants to tacke one of these? Or are you all too busy feeling uncomfortable with answering simple questions?
:-)
SwiftJonathan: I am still looking for the location of the Nazca
This is the fourth or fifth day that I have been asking for evidence, I believe. And not one person here has dared to show any, even though a couple have complained that I even dare to ask.
I have to admit, folks, I have no idea how your minds work. There must be some complete disconnect between beliefs and reality, there.
To the best of my knowledge, not even religion is this screwed up. At least there is some dogma there hat everybody agrees on and from which theology flows. At least there are widely accepted principles that have some moral applications.
But this? This is unmitigated BS, so far.
SwiftJonathan: This is the fourth or fifth day that I have
I was asking for evidence, not sightings. Most of the time I was actually talking about archeological evidence presented for the "ancient alien" hypothesis.
You didn't read what I wrote, did you, Dear?
:-)
You were the one who went on talking about how you know about "reliable sightings". I merely asked you to tell us what you believe falls under that category. You refuse. I can't do anything about that. I don't have to. You are more ridiculous this way, anyway.
""that meet your standards so you need to tell me what your criteria are for them. ""
I still can't tell you what YOU MEANT BY WHAT YOU SAID.
I did tell you what the problems with photography as evidence are, though. That does not mean there is no good science photography. It merely means its hard. But then... does it matter? You are too chicken to point us to a single image, anyway.
:-)
SwiftJonathan: "You are the one asking for reliable sightings" I was
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