Citizen Hearing On Disclosure Day 3: Panel Takes On Animal Mutilations And Roswell Crash (Live Updates)

05/01/2013 11:19 am ET | Updated May 01, 2013

Day three of the Citizen Hearing On Disclosure (CHD) begins with testimony of panel members offering accounts of animal mutilations, UFOs in England and the widespread nature of UFO sightings.

The rest of the day's discussion will center around controversial government documents and the famous 1947 account of a UFO that allegedly crashed near Roswell, N.M.

As seriously as the 40 witnesses and six former members of Congress appear to be treating the subject of UFOs and supposed extraterrestrial visits to Earth, many media outlets have openly criticized and ridiculed the congressional-style five-day event that aims to petition Congress to open a real investigation of UFOs.

On day two, the testimony included eyewitness accounts from military eyewitnesses on the famous 1980 UFO incident that took place in the Rendlesham Forest of England, as well as cases where UFOs reportedly tampered with nuclear missile sites.

Watch these highlights from Day 2 of the Citizen Hearing On Disclosure:

05/03/2013 7:10 PM EDT

Former Canada Minister Of National Defense Paul Hellyer Closes 5-Day D.C. Hearing

Paul Hellyer is widely known and credited for his work to unify the Canadian Armed Forces. In 2005, he made headlines by announcing that "UFOs are as real as the airplanes flying overhead." That statement made him the first cabinet-ranked individual in the G8 group of nations to say that UFOs were unequivocably real.

"Since then, I've learned a lot from many sources, including a number of the fantastic witnesses that we have heard these last [five] days."

Among the things Hellyer says he has learned and believes is a particular document that concluded at least four species had been visiting Earth for thousands of years: "This is my own view at this stage, as well. ... They are different species and, consequently, may have different agendas. I don't think we can say that they all have the same agenda any more than we can say that the United States, China and Russia have the same agenda. Our real interests may be similar, but as of now, our perceived interests are still quite far apart."


"My interest is in about 95 to 98 percent of full disclosure -- I know of one or two things that I'm not sure should be in the public domain, at least yet. They will be someday, I'm sure. But just as children survive the idea of the tooth fairy and Santa Claus when they become adult, I think the taxpaying citizens are quite capable of accepting the new and broader reality that we live in a cosmos teeming with life of various sorts.

"The fact that some other civilizations are more advanced than we are may be humbling. But that could be a necessary step in our survival."

Several of the former members of Congress who presided over the 5-day hearing suggested they would be interested in reuniting to try and take the UFO-ET disclosure issue to the United Nations.

Time will tell...

05/03/2013 4:39 PM EDT

Technology Panel Features Dr. Roger Leir's Implant Surgery And Its Alleged Relationship To The UFO Subject

The technology panel (being sworn in below), consisted of (from left) Dr. Roger Leir, physics engineer Thomas Valone, Dr. Steven Greer and aeronautical engineer Robert Wood.


During this session, Leir, a podiatrist, described the numerous surgeries he's performed with a medical team in which they removed unusual small objects from people who claimed to have experienced alien abduction.

"In my 50 years of podiatric surgical practice, I have removed literally hundreds of objects from the human foot, including paper, glass, metal and stones.

"All of the individuals involved in my study all presented no noted portal of entry for any of the objects that were removed. There was no visible scar formation and no interruption of the integrity of the skin, even when examination was performed with a magnifying loop. All the individuals in the study presented positive X-rays or CT Scans showing metallic or lesser dense foreign objects.


"In addition, by use of a radio wave frequency detector, we were able to detect that certain radio frequencies in the FM band, were being emitted from the object. All the surgeries we performed were documented with eyewitnesses, video and still photography.

"We find that, in all pathological reports, there is NO inflammatory reaction, there is no rejection reaction. There is nothing that we have found in material science that will produce absolutely no inflammatory reaction in the human body."

05/03/2013 2:54 PM EDT

Anonymous Witness Gives Electrifying Testimony About Area 51, Aliens And Eisenhower

CHD organizer Stephen Bassett announced to the ex-congressional panel that a 15-minute video was about to be shown of a 77-year-old man man, in very bad health, who wanted to take the opportunity to reveal a story of what happened to him while he worked for the CIA under Pres. Dwight Eisenhower in 1958.

Bassett: "In a sense, this video represents the many individuals out there who could not come before a committee like this, who want to talk, but it's difficult. The vast majority of individuals who have interacted with this issue while working for the government, going back to the 40s, took the information that they had to their grave and did not talk if they were told not to talk.

"This gentleman has received numerous threats from his government not to talk, but he wanted this testimony to be presented and we agreed. He has only been interviewed by two researchers who are here today, Linda Moulton Howe and Richard Dolan."

It's a foregone conclusion that the CIA doesn't routinely acknowledge the identities of those who work for the agency, so we can't confirm who this man is...we can only present portions of his testimony, as he spoke with UFO historian Richard Dolan (seen at left in the picture below). "X" -- as we'll call him here -- recounted how he worked for the CIA on a special project involving the Air Force's Project Blue Book study of UFOs (which ran for about 20 years before ending in 1969).


X: "Project Blue Book was partially a fraud. But the cases that we got didn't come from the Pentagon or CIA headquarters. My boss filled me in on Project Blue Book and what they had found so far, as far as greys and aliens and the Roswell incident."

Dolan: "How did you feel when this got dumped on you?"

X: "Well, I was just kind of overwhelmed with all of this. My boss said we were going to be part of the Eisenhower push to find out about these aliens. We went to the Oval Office. President Eisenhower was there, and Nixon."

At this point, X goes on to talk about how Eisenhower was upset when he learned that there was activity going on at a base in Nevada (that would later be renamed as Area 51) that the government allegedly had no jurisdiction over. Eisenhower sent X and his boss to the base to find out what was going on there.

X described what they saw when they arrived.


X: "There were different garage door openings and inside they had different saucer crafts. The first one was the Roswell craft -- it was kind of crashed up, but apparently every alien had died except for a couple. Later on we viewed the autopsy film and then the colonel said, 'What we've got in here is we're interviewing a grey alien.'"

Dolan: "How did you feel at that moment?"

X: "I thought, boy, we had no idea we were gonna see the real thing. All we saw was film. My boss was able to go in and have a partial interview. This one looked a little bit Oriental. It didn't look human as far as the skin tone. It's brain was a little bit bigger, very, very small nose and the ears were just like holes and the mouth was very small."

X and his superior went back to Washington to meet with Eisenhower and Nixon again.

X: "Also, Hoover was there. We told them about the alien and the whole situation and he was just totally shocked. He appeared for the first time to be worried. Eisenhower said, 'We've got to keep this thing completely secret.'"

05/03/2013 12:17 PM EDT

Cong. Carolyn Kilpatrick Praises The Testimony Thus Far Presented At The Hearing

Cong. Kilpatrick (pictured below) appeared very moved by the testimony of the private, commercial and military pilots as well as previous panel witnesses during the week.

"[All this week], I've heard some of the most intelligent, scientific and universal knowledge on the topic that I didn't know I was going to witness. Yesterday, we heard from 12 different countries who have hundreds of years of scientific intelligent information on this subject.

"It behooves us, as human beings, in what is known as the greatest country in the world, to participate in that discussion. To not act like something exists and then to further act like it's a joke, we do a disservice to our ancestors, to God and to the people of the world.

"I want the world and the universe to continue. And if there is something out there -- and I'm not a scientist -- there's a whole lot we don't know. I think it's ignorant of any people not to seek out what we need to know to continue the universe.

"I was convinced before this morning's panel that there probably is something out there, and I'm willing to work the rest of my life to see that, if it is, how we can enhance the universe to see that we all have a better quality of life."


05/03/2013 11:17 AM EDT

Final Day Of Citizen UFO Hearing Takes Off With Pilot Testimony

On the fifth and final day of the Citizen Hearing On Disclosure in Washington, D.C., a group of pilots -- private, commercial and military -- and former FAA official John Callahan testified about a number of UFO encounters experienced by pilots, and how, in many cases, information about these incidents were deliberately kept from the public.

05/02/2013 5:31 PM EDT

Day 4 Ends With Sen. Mike Gravel Outlining A Plan To Get United Nations To Reexamine UFOs

Gravel says it only takes one country to make a stand and to get the United Nations to open the door again to possibly creating a new agency to look into UFOs.

"Another hearing like this one, or whether it's in the Congress, probably won't advance our goals all that much. But there's no reason why, with the various countries represented here -- with the various scholars and military officers -- that we wouldn't try to, within our own communities, to get them to endorse a very simple, straightforward resolution, calling upon the [U.N.] General Assembly.

"All we would need is one country, but I think that we have several countries from South America, and certainly, this group here might have enough influence to get their government to go on record, and to field a resolution creating an agency of the United Nations...specifically with the goal to organize a global conference -- not a hearing -- of the scholars and scientists that would come together and fund it -- both from public and private sources -- so that, within a couple of years, we could convene a conference that would command the attention of the world.

"I have no doubt that we could field that kind of a resolution and get it adopted. We can elevate it right to where it really belongs because it's a global issue -- We could elevate it right to the General Assembly of the United Nations."

05/02/2013 4:34 PM EDT

Media And Political Ridicule Raise Their Heads During D.C. UFO Hearing

While these congressional-style hearings are going on in Washington, there's an ongoing influx of stories coming out in the media by writers who claim that this is just an exercise in futility among UFO buffs looking for instant publicity, and that the participants -- witness panels and the committee of former members of Congress -- are involved in nothing but a farce and an easy payday.

The New York Daily News today highlights a statement by U.S. Rep. Peter King of New York, in which he outright ridicules one of the military witnesses at the D.C. hearings, Ret. Air Force Capt. Robert Salas (pictured below).

Salas has a credible background as a weapons controller and launch officer of intercontinental ballistic missiles and has previously spoken about a 1967 incident at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana when signals went off indicating an intrusion at the missile site, followed by missiles "going into an unlaunchable, or no-go, mode," all during the appearance of a UFO over the base.

Salas says he sent documents about this case to King, the former House Homeland Security Chairman and believes King is ignoring him. According to the Daily News, when King was asked about Salas' claim, here's how he responded: "I have no idea what the guy is talking about. We are always getting crazy stuff in the mail by people whose brain has been taken over by aliens or something."

Really, Mr. King? As a representative of the people, is that the proper way to refer to one of many respected military men entrusted with the safety of our country -- to just shrug him off by referring to the evidence he sent you as "crazy stuff" and to further ridicule him by basically saying his brain was "taken over by aliens"?

It's high time that elected officials think twice before making pronouncements about things like UFOs, simply because they either have a personal bias against the subject OR they've been told to inflict that kind of attitude on the public.

Either way, a big reason why these people have come together in Washington this week is to try and open a serious look into a subject that doesn't deserve the kind of ridicule that people like King throw around.


05/02/2013 3:33 PM EDT

Chinese Scientist Sun Shili Reveals Huge Numbers Of UFO Enthusiasts In That Country

Chinese scientist Sun Shili is a retired foreign ministry official and president of the World Chinese UFO Federation.

"Our federation serves as a communication platform for the global Chinese on all aspects of UFOs, including those in Mainland China, Hong Kong, Taiwan and abroad. Chinese people consider ourselves as the descendants of dragons, which are from outer space in the Chinese culture.

"We call our land as the land of deities or gods and we seek the harmony between people and heaven. [All of these things] are very relevant with the hearing that is taking place today."

Shili told the CHD committee that he was a government diplomat and university professor, but since the 1970s, he started looking into UFOs and the mysteries of the universe.

"Everyone on this planet is looking for our roots in the universe. We have the right to know and discover. Any attempt to cover-up is unacceptable. Also statistics of the China UFO groups [of which there are about 50,000 members] show that, out of 1.3 billion people, we have close to tens of millions of people who are UFO enthusiasts."

05/02/2013 2:27 PM EDT

Afternoon Session Of International Testimony

The second panel consisting of international experts is offering testimony about UFOs. The individuals (being sworn-in in the image below) are (from left to right) Antonio Huneeus (Chile-U.S.), Nick Pope (U.K.), Grant Cameron (Canada), Sun Shili (People's Republic Of China) and Roberto Pinotti (Italy).


05/02/2013 12:58 PM EDT

Cong. Darlene Hooley Ends Morning Session With Praise For International Panel

The committee of former members of Congress appeared to be moved and highly interested to hear the testimony of the first international panel of the day, especially the riveting close encounter aerial "dogfight" described by Peruvian fighter pilot, Col. Oscar Santa-Maria.

Cong. Darlene Hooley (Dem/Oregon) closed the morning session with praise for the panel:

"I want to thank our panel for being here today. This has been really interesting and your openness and what's happening in each of your countries has been a real eye-opener for the rest of us."

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