"I'm spiritual, but not religious." This is how many people describe their belief system -- embracing transcendental philosophies, but not following any kind of dogma. So, when Oprah sat down with Reverend Ed Bacon of the All Saints Episcopal Church, she asked the pastor an all-important question to get a religious leader's take on whether or not spirituality and religion must converge.
"Can you be spiritual and not be religious?" Oprah asks Rev. Bacon in the video.
"Yes," he answers without hesitation. "I say that because there [are] wonderful people who have spiritual experiences ... and they are just not going to bother with this religious stuff."
Ultimately, Rev. Bacon says, the heart of issue boils down to respect. "Let's respect everybody exactly where they are and let's let grace lead them where grace needs to lead them," he says simply -- even if that place doesn't happen to be the church.
"You don't want everybody to be in church on Sunday?" Oprah asks, surprised.
"No, I don't," Rev. Bacon responds. "I want everybody to know God. I want everybody to know the love that I know... What I want, Oprah, is to turn the human race into the human family. And you don't have to be at church to be a part of that."
In the video, Rev. Bacon also explains why people do go to church and how their combined energy can create an inspired impact.
Rev. Bacon appears on a new episode of "Super Soul Sunday" -- along with Elizabeth Lesser and Mark Nepo -- for a special series exploring today's global topics, from gay marriage to gun violence. Tune in Sunday, May 26, at 11 a.m. ET on OWN.