Clinton Defections Should Raise Eyebrows

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Rev. Jeremiah Wright has proven to be Barack Obama's cross to bear. Wright's recent road show, specifically his National Press Conference speech and subsequent press conference, raises questions for some about Obama.

It may not always be fair, but we are judged by the company we keep. What then does it say about the company we no longer keep? If Wright's behavior raises questions about Obama, are not similar questions raised by the defectors within the Clinton camp?

This week, former Democratic National Committee Chair and superdelegate, Joe Andrew switched his support from Clinton to Obama. On the heels of the Indiana primary, Andrew, who lives in Indianapolis, also stated he planned to call the other superdelegates he knows, lobbying them to back Obama.

Bill Clinton appointed Andrew chair of the DNC in 1999, he led the party through the disputed 2000 presidential race before resigning in 2001. He originally endorsed Hillary Clinton's presidential candidacy last year.

Given the context of Jeremiah Wright and the contested Indiana primary the Andrew defection is big not only because of his superdelegate status, but because he worked with the Clintons. But he is hardly the first.

Former Ambassador to Chile Gabriel Guerra-Mondragon, a major fundraiser for Hillary Clinton, recently left the campaign apparently to hold a similar position with Obama. It was reported that he raised nearly $500,000 for Clinton. Guerra-Mondragon was appointed Ambassador to Chile by President Clinton in 1994 and served until 1998.

According to NBC News, among the reasons for Guerra-Mondragon's defection included his uneasiness with the tone of the Clinton campaign and was beginning to worry about what this would mean for the general election.

Former Clinton Labor Secretary Robert Reich, recently endorsed Obama. In addition to serving in the Clinton administration, Reich's personal relationship with Bill and Hillary Clinton spans five decades.

New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson's recent endorsement of Obama has been viewed by some as duplicity of the highest order. Former Clinton campaign strategist James Carville, referred to Richardson, the former Clinton Energy Secretary and former presidential candidate as "Judas."
In addition, Greg Craig, who served as special counsel to Bill Clinton during his impeachment; Anthony Lake, former National Security Adviser, have thrown their support to Obama. Even Obama's chief political strategist David Axelrod worked for Hillary Clinton during her Senate campaign.

Then there are the members of the Senate who have known and worked with Bill and Hillary Clinton for the past two decades who have decided to support Obama, including John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, and former presidential candidate Christopher Dodd.

There have been several reported cases of heated telephone conversations, most notable, between the former president and Kennedy as well as Richardson after they decided to endorse Obama.

Is this string of defections merely politics as usual? Are they the residue of angry former employees? Or is there something else at play?

The first hint of defection came in early 2007 when Hollywood media mogul David Geffen, once a Clinton supporter who was reported to have raised $18 million for the former president, decided to hold a fundraiser for Obama.

Geffen told New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd, "Everybody in politics lies, but they do it with such ease, it's troubling." Geffen described Hillary Clinton as "incredibly polarizing" and Bill Clinton as "reckless."

The adjective Geffen used to describe the former president conjures memories of Monica Lewinsky, a subject the Clinton's have deemed off limits during the primary season but may be reexamined in the post Jeremiah Wright world.

If Wright's association with Obama has done damage to the senator's image, is it not fair to ask what the myriad defections by a number of highly respected aides and supporters say about Clinton? Moreover, a number of these defections have occurred since "bittergate," the Pennsylvania primary, and Jeremiah Wright.

Many of these defectors are not immune to power. Some, in all likelihood, have made their own Faustian bargains at times for a seat at the table. For whatever reason the possibility of sitting at that table with the Clintons is no longer as appealing as it once was.

Byron Williams is an Oakland pastor and syndicated columnist. He is the author of "Strip Mall Patriotism: Moral Reflections of the Iraq War". E-mail him at byron@byronspeaks.com or go to his website, byronspeaks.com

 
 

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What I find very confusing is why Ms Clinton has such a huge problem with the so-called "reverend" White.

Back when Mr. Clinton got caught messing with an intern, the first person the Clinton Couple called for 'advice' was 'reverend' White, who not only attended them but did so in the Whitehouse.

Why isn't this common knowledge?

The Clintons have a long relationship with White. She of the Bosnian Sniper Attack is known to obscure or flat-out lie about facts. Her relationship with 'reverend' White is just another in her repertoire.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 05/06/2008

Not only did the Clintons meet with Rev. Jeremiah Wright at the "National Prayer Breakfast" on many occasions, call on him when Clinton's scandals were peaking, they also sat in Jeremiah Wright's pews a 1/2 dozen times during the past twenty years.

This is what happens to a Reverend that support's another milestone, instead of their own.....a black man. That is the 'hate' the Clinton's feel. It's not just a (so-what) feeling, it's betrayal, an enormous disappointed of grandiose scale.....to them, nobody else, just them. they are very radical, in all their views, with all their associations, at all times. This is a pathology that's a mental disorder, and a very dangerous disorder to have with a leader of a country.

Just think, no more continuous scandals that overtake all of Congress, all of the American people, all of our hope and dreams, all for .....themselves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 PM on 05/07/2008

I think you mean Wright and I, too, question, why the Clintons' assocation with the Reverend has not been brought up. HRC tried to act holier-than-thou when she said, "He wouldn't have been my pastor," but she had no problem with him helping out her husband during the Lewinsky affair.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 AM on 05/07/2008

I used to support Rev. Byron Williams, but now I've changed my mind. I no longer back him -- and I'll be encouraging everyone else I know to abandon him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 PM on 05/06/2008

That's a shame you choose that, but he is speaking the truth. Byron Williams I do not know, but...you seem to be a Hillary supporter and condemn without giving a public reason, so, who cares?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 AM on 05/07/2008

Because....?

What exactly did Pastor Williams do wrong? He is making a valid point and one that I wish the MSM would talk more about. The fact that so many Clinton supporters (fundraisers, friends, superdelegates etc) are switching to Obama and no Obama supporters are switching to HRC is significant. She's losing by every metric (delegates, popular vote, states won) and her supporters are jumping ship.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 AM on 05/07/2008

I Think if we paid more attention to a persons OWN words and deeds, we would not be hung up on those of another's.
Barack Obama has been around for many years.... research his own words, his own actions, his own record as a politician and then make your judgment based on Barack Obama's OWN life and legacy and certainly not that of the Rev Wright. There were many Germans subjected to Hitler's lunacy but still followed their own hearts and hid many Jews risking their own lives during the reign of terror.

It is ... "by their fruits you shall know them"... and not by the media's spin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 PM on 05/06/2008

"Gollum grabs for the ring of power... he had it once, and he wants it back..."
See photo above... top left.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 PM on 05/06/2008

"Former Clinton campaign strategist James Carville..."
Former?
We all know better...
"Gollum grabs for the ring of power... he had it once, and he wants it back..."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 05/06/2008

Maybe they are all part of the "elite" experts that Hillary doesn't need to pay attention to - because she has the solutions? (sarcasm)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 AM on 05/06/2008

that's a nice thought but in the parts of indiana in the chicago market she's up double digits over obama, and you know he over saw the complete destruction of the dems in congress in elections and in most state races as well. so hmm he can go. There's a reason he didn't last.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:32 AM on 05/06/2008

Thanks for the writing Mr. Williams
You provide much food for thought. I like the kind of campaign Obama has run so far.
The candidate that respects me adds a positive benefit to my life. I feel respected by Mr. Obama. When I compare Clinton and Obama after observing them for these many months, I come away with a desire to meet Mr. Obama. I say, Mr. Obama tell me more about your vision for our country. I believe he inspires new thinking and constructive inertia; he adds value to my life.
Obama, as leader, makes our country greater. Obama energizes us to "fight the good fight" and turn the tide of mediocrity, prejudice, and partisan divisiveness. Mr. Obama inspires us to new thinking and action. When we read his books, listen to his words, observe his thoughtfulness we like what we see, read, hear, and feel. We like this relationship so far. We feel very committed already, Mr. Obama what are your intentions, are they honorable? Will you act consistently and continuously for what is good for us? What value do you bring to this very needy table?
Warren Bennis says in his book, On Becoming a Leader (2003) that the "differences between leaders¦ are those who master the context and those who surrender to it. (Clinton surrendered long ago.)" Obama demonstrates the thoughtful patience, intelligence, and tenacity we need in a leader. ars

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:58 AM on 05/06/2008

I for one, am still puzzled by the blatant spin by the media that this contest is closer than it is. I actually heard that cooc James Carville say that if Hillary were to win Indiana and NC she would be the nominee, then I held my gut and bellowed in laughter. Look if Hillary were ahead by 500 000 in popular vote, ahead in states won, and ahead in the pledged delegate count by 130+, what would the tone be? The very fact that Hillary Clinton, the politician of privlege, backed by a popular president, is behind, running against a political rookie is starkly telling. And what she is currently doing, this campaign of super delegate convincing, is a dangerous one that would seriously damage her chance at a GE win in November...definitely so, if it is perceived that she somehow stole the nomination.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 AM on 05/06/2008

Carville's a talented, intelligent, canny spin-meister. He's crazy like a fox, and in this case, IMHO, loyal to the Clintons to a fault. I say this because he knows in his heart of hearts as well as anyone that should Clinton somehow wrest the nomination at this point, the Democratic Party would be handing both houses of congress as well as the White House to the GOP for at least the next four years, very likely eight. Clinton has done too much damage to herself in the African-American community, and those droves of new voters Obama has brought into the fold would rightfully see the denial of Obama as a repudiation of the democratic process, further proof that the United States is a shell of the democracy it once aspired to be. No amount of pandering to working-class white voters can possibly make up for the voters Clinton has turned off, and the voters Clinton can never hope to turn on.

Without denying the possibility of a political calculus in the decisions of some of the superdelegates Mr. Williams cites in this piece, maybe we should also consider the possibility that they are supporting Obama because they see at least a chance for a change from the divisive politics that has dominated the political landscape for the past three decades.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 05/06/2008


I am glad to know that someone else saw that crazy guy James Carville saying such an outrageous thing. I almost doubled over with laughter. It never ceases to amaze me that Clinton and her people are so willing to say that she is winning. But then again, maybe that is not so amazing given the fact that they have lied ..uh..''misspoken'' about everything else in this process. Equally hilarious was Terry McAuliffee on Morning Joe today reeling off a list of the handful of states that she has won. The man, like most of Hillary's staff, seem a little off these days. Thanks for a great article, Mr. Williams.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 AM on 05/06/2008

I wish the Clintons would get it together. Hillary REALLY needs to bow out GRACEFULLY while she still can.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 PM on 05/05/2008

Not going to happen... Hillary lacks class and integrity!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 05/06/2008

There are a few more former Clinton cabinet members who are now with Obama. Dr. Susan Rice(the better of the Dr Rices), who is as smart and savvy as they come. She was Bill Clinton's asst secretary of state for african affairs. Two others served in Ciinton;s cabinet , an asst attorney general and a human health and services member are with Obama as well. Even if you are the staunchest Hillary supporter, you have got to ask yourself why are so many former Clinton people alignining themselves with Obama?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 05/05/2008

I was very impressed with Dr. Susan Rice. She joined the Obama campaign early on after hearing one of Obama's speeches on the campaign trail.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 05/05/2008

Hillary is spinning every chance she gets. Ickes was hired to do JUST that. The REMAINING superdelegates are aware of it. At this point, Hillary's camp could care less how "spinning" appears to the superdelegates. The Clintons sincerely believe their 90's tactics will convince the SD's in Denver. However, the Clintons are hoping there are enough UNINFORMED voters out there to fall for their tactics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 05/05/2008

I would not say that everyone voting for Hillary is uninformed. They are just ignorant and prefer Hillary over Obama because most of them are probably racist!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 05/06/2008

It was learning about Ickes coming in as a primary adviser for Hillary that convinced me to support Obama - at least initially. He's bad, bad news. The closest thing the Dems have to Rove. His tactics during the Clinton-Dole campaign were rotten to the core. That's when I "dropped out" of the Democratic Party. I could not ethically be a party to the Party any longer, not if people like Ickes were running it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 AM on 05/06/2008

I agree!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 05/05/2008

What it means to me is that Hillary is not Bill. The loyalty Bill commanded is not necessarily transferable to Hillary. She started out with built-in backers and loyal associates, but they can be lost, and some have been.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:03 PM on 05/05/2008

Doesn't raise eyebrows with me...
Ever hear of rats abandoning a sinking ship? Clinton's negatives are so high that she is unelectable. Lets face it, running almost unopposed in MI, she still lost 40% of the Democrats. If 40% of Dems won't vote for her (even before she went negative), how can she win MI?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 PM on 05/05/2008

I agree because it is Hillary against Obama we don't here about Hillary's scandles,but once she steals the election the neocons will bring them out. The reason we don't hear about them now is because the media and the GOP wants Hillary to be the nominee. The GOP knows she and Bill wrote the book on scandles, and they will surely have enough to last them till November. The people that are defecting from her camp obviously has a conscience that finally got the better of them,unfortunately unlike Hillary or her blind supporters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 05/05/2008

HRC's aides have been talking privately about what a shrew she is at least since '93. Many were unceremoniously dumped by her along the way. Many remained, because they wanted to stay on the political scene, and HRC was it for them. Now, however, they've reached the point where it's time to cut bait, to take the chance that the Empty Suit is going to make it big. When the Empty Suit fails, the HRC camp will have to find other political homes, which is preferable to remaining with The Shrew.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 05/05/2008

FGNY ... Also I have no choice, even Ralph Nader looks better!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 05/05/2008

FNYGY ... `Duby has been an effective Prez ... how ... why ... I proved your point ???' Here is a compare that may mean more ... let us say you supposedly hired what you thought was an `effective painter' to paint the side of your house where you have just had a `brand new driveway put in' ... the painter paints that side of the house `very effectively' and `it glistens in the Sun as you and the painter look at it - beautiful ...' ... then you look down only to find `your brand new driveway hopelessly guped upon with loads of dry paint ... ???' Yeah, I'll hire that guy next time ... Dubya needs to be impeached and imprisoned along with Cheney!

BarryO is untested commodity as was Dubya, just because `he might be an effective initiator of legislation w/GOP Tom Coburn (who sez Global Climate Change is a `Made Up Story') ... and pushes through a bill with a fence along the border - does not, does not make him effective, he probably has more present and non-present votes tallied in Congress than any other Senator over 3 years!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 05/05/2008

meant to say steal, Dubya stole the elections, both times.

worth a read:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/01/20/ivins.hillary/index.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 AM on 05/06/2008

Dubya was tested and well known in Texas it is the msm that covered everything up and helped him still the election. Molly Ivins warned us of Dubya and a quick search will also reveal that Ms Ivins also said:

"Jan 20, 2006 ... I'd like to make it clear to the people who run the Democratic Party that I will not support Hillary Clinton for president."

Molly we miss you, RIP

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 AM on 05/06/2008

Look no one doubts Bill Moyers ... and maybe Erik Rush isn't well-known but during LBJ's unsuccessful bid for the 1960 DEM Prez Nomination ... Moyers served as LBJ's top aide and in the general he acted as liaison between DEM Prez, later VP Candidate Johnson and finally DEM Prez Candidate JFK. He also was a top adviser to both JFK and LBJ, defacto principal architect of LBJ's 1964 PrezCampaign. Then later became LBJ's informal ChiefOStaff until 1966 and later WH Press Secretary during Vietnam. Equation = he helped formulate JFK/LBJ policy at the start of Vietnam and left it as it unraveled. I respect him now much more ... but my ancestors had nothing to do with slavery, were slaughtered by the US Calvary and we were discriminated against also, as part Native American, Italian and as a Catholic. So cry for the people and the nation not the man named Wright!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 PM on 05/05/2008

No witless liberal doubts Bill Moyers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 05/05/2008

I work for the Hillary campaign in Indiana, and we are working hard to crush Mr. Obama on his scandals with the crazy preacher and the mad 60's bomber. Everyday, while canvassing, we bring up his dirty laundry and, when asked about the bumps in the Clinton road, can easily steer the conversation back to Obama and his pals. This shows us that Hillary and Bill's scandals have all but faded out -- Hillary calls it "being fully vetted" -- and that we can make mincemeat out of Mr. Obama with the loons he's been caught with. We feel this is going to push us to victory. Keep your fingers crossed.

And get ready! Yo mama, Obama! We're calling you out!

Hillary '08!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 PM on 05/05/2008

Why would you have to steer the conversation back to Obama. You just proved my point. Why can't you talk about your candidate's good points? Maybe because she has none. You have indicted the woman. Her own supporters have doomed her. You should have read your post before you posted it.
Tkanks, kiddo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 PM on 05/06/2008

Oh, so all of Hillary and Bill's scandals have faded away? What about Monica, Gennifer Flowers, Vince Foster, Hillary 's horrible grilling in court a little girl who was a rape victim, telling her she ''asked for it''...Peter Paul, Bill and Hillary's secrecy about the shady characters who funded his Presidential Library...shall I go on? All of these things could have been brought to the forefront by the Obama campaign, but he is not a dirty fighter like Hillary. All of this stuff makes the Wright mess seem like
a Disney movie. Actually, one more of Clintons skeletons has come out of the closet, namely, James Carville. He is so a Clinton butt kisser. I could go on and on, but there is not enough space on this blog to list them all. Keeping your fingers crossed does nothing to change the situation
your candidate finds herself in. She is to blame she decided, on the advice of her managers, to go negative.
She is also, and you know this, despised by the majority of Americans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 PM on 05/06/2008


You are a sly wit! You are almost believable.

(Gentle readers, Smartey has some of you snowed. Smartey could not possibly be a Clinton supporter, because such bombast would hardly help Hillary. In fact, it would show all too clearly how myopic and hateful her supporters truly are. Why trumpet the obvious - that Hillary is a Repug in Dems clothing? Supporters of Hill must answer: when the dust settles, will anything be left of the Democratic party?)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 05/05/2008