Moving Forward

Posted May 7, 2008 | 02:29 PM (EST)



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The debate on my blog about whether anything has really changed in the presidential race is interesting, although it doesn't really matter a lot at this point- either way, this thing is now done. My own view is that had Hillary won Indiana big and pulled off a big upset in North Carolina, it wouldn't have changed the basic pledged delegate math, but it sure would have spooked a lot of superdelegates, and it would have kept alive the negative media frame on Obama, so this really was her last chance. You can stick a fork in it.

The media and many political junkies are now bound to be fascinated by the how long will-Hillary-stay-in story. In my view, like the did-last-night-change-anything-debate, that is also pretty close to irrelevant. When you have no chance of becoming the nominee, even your attacks lose their punch because you don't have the same credibility: it's a little like Huckabee in the last few weeks of the GOP campaign - people just weren't paying much attention to what he had to say, and even when he won states, it didn't matter much anymore. Hillary Clinton is obviously a bigger name than Mike Huckabee, but the credibility factor will still erode the power of her attacks.

So here is what I now hope will happen:

1. That the Obama campaign team really have a new focus on putting together their general election team and strategy quickly. One of the things that really killed us in the 2004 election was that the Kerry campaign was so painfully slow to put together their general election staff, operation, and overall strategy. Weeks literally dragged into months without major decisions being made, and all the while Bush was moving into full attack mode. It was incredibly harmful.

The Obama folks need to be very focused on gearing up their operation now. If the primary team needs vacations, fine, put people you trust into planning mode. With our long-drawn primary, this needs to happen now.

2. That the Clinton people need to get used to the fact that Obama is the nominee. All the hyperbolic "he can never win the general" and the "it's not fair" stuff needs to stop right now unless you want a 100-years-in-Iraq, pro-life, pro-Roberts/Alito Supreme Court, 22% lifetime LCV rating, economic right-winger as president. To spend any time or energy at all nursing your resentments is the most fundamentally selfish thing you can do right now. I hate losing elections, I know how badly you feel, and how hard it is, but there is too much at stake to be selfish right now.

3. That all the avid Obama people who have been so obsessed with beating Hillary pat yourself on the back, and then get the hell over it. You've won the first round, get ready for round 2 because just winning the primary doesn't count for anything in the end. Gloating feels great, but it doesn't help Obama in any way, so put off gloating until he's actually won the real election. Keep giving to Obama, but help the DNC and VoteVets and other groups that are working on beating McCain, too. And be a big person, and reach a hand of friendship to all the Hillary people who you have been saying mean things to for a year now. We need them.

I know all of this is obvious, so apologies for that and for the preachy tone, too. But I just had to say it. We have a candidate. Now let's figure out how he wins.


 

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This is a "spot on" assessment of what Democrats need to do NOW. I hope the candidates and their supporters are listening.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 AM on 05/08/2008

The biggest obstacle to party unity is the Clinton camp. Since the beginning, they have acted as if the nomination was Hillary's by divine right and treated Obama like a usurper storming the palace to disrupt her coronation. But you are right, Mike, the time for talk like that is over. Hillary needs to figure out how to concede gracefully and let the party focus on November. Until she does that, the acrimony is going to continue.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 AM on 05/08/2008

Just had to get one more snotty comment in there, even while agreeing that it serves no positive purpose, eh? Too bad you don't follow your candidate's (oops, excuse me: OUR candidate's) example and try to unify things. We need bridges built now, not ramparts fortified. Think about it, and act like a win in November actually means something.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 AM on 05/10/2008

The best (and most likely) thing to happen for Obama's campaign is a HUGE influx of smallish donations immediately after he is the for-sure nominee. That "shot in the arm" will rally his supporters and volunteers and put fear into the hearts of McCain's campaign staff. And I believe this is EXACTLY what will happen. Many of us haven't donated or haven't donated much because either we don't typically donate until after the primaries or because we have seen that Barack has been fairly flush already. Once he secures the nomination, we'll come out of the woodwork to donate, volunteer, slap bumperstickers on our cars and yard signs in our yards. Game on!

I have often been critical of politicians who spend so much money that they can be seen as "buying" victory. However, Obama's situation is entirely different. His support is coming largely from small donors (who can be tapped again later if necessary) and, perhaps more importantly, he has been up against two very seasoned and well-recognized/entrenched establishment candidates. In order to be competitive, he HAS to spend more money. That's just the unfortunate reality. His eloquence and thoughtfulness, coupled with full coffers, will put him in very good stead this summer and into the fall.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 AM on 05/08/2008

Spectacular post, btw. Spot on.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 AM on 05/08/2008

Yes, spectacular post Mr. Lux and excellent comment MrChris. Totally agree!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 AM on 05/08/2008

Good job. I have been an Obama supporter since day one but I have been a Democrat longer. I am ready to get this show on the road. I think Hillary is a very good candidate and I would feel bad if Obama was losing but you know what - we NEED to win the White House and I am going to work my ass off to do that. Me and my group of 6 friends - 4 Obama's & 2 Hillary's - have declared a truce. McCain is the man we are focusing our energy on, and it's not negative energy it's truth telling energy. Once most American see how John McCain has flip flopped on taxes, torture, campaign finance reform the American people will see him for what he really is and they will be running scared to the polls to vote against him. So I say lets get this party started.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 AM on 05/08/2008

Excellent post.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 AM on 05/08/2008

I second that!!!!!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 AM on 05/08/2008

Good job Mike.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 AM on 05/08/2008

Im sending good vibes from across the Atlantic.

Im exhausted just watching this race... I cant IMAGINE what the candidates, their staff, supporters and volunteers must be feeling!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 AM on 05/08/2008

Hear hear!
I'm joining the Obama registration drive this Saturday. Go to www.mybarackobama.com to sign up. People will be paired up at the rallying point and go door to door for a couple of hours. Forty percent voter turnout is a sad joke - let's do this damn thing!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 AM on 05/08/2008

Some votersstayed home maybe because they dont' have transport or job to do. Do Obama's team give people transport help to get to the booth on the election day?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 AM on 05/08/2008

Contact the Obama campaign and they'll take care of you. I did "knock and ride" on primary day, checking to see if folks voted and offering to take them immediately to the polls. Furthermore, when canvassing, one of the first questions we ask is, "Do you need a ride?".

Incidentally, one of the factors that convinced my that BHO was "ready from day 1" is the extraordinarily well-organized campaign he ran. Plus, they were great people to hang with. No trashing of Hillary officially or unofficially (mainly huge disappointment that she sank so low....).

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 05/08/2008

No transportation or a job to do?
Please, no more excuses. People can vote by mail a month ahead of the actual election. Polling palces in most states are open at least 12 hours. Their local Democratic Party may offer pick up and delivery on election day. Start paying attention.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 AM on 05/08/2008

What a great article. I agree with everything, including healing the party and being nice to Hillary's people. I'm so glad we have our nominee and we can begin to rally around him, protect him and help him win!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 AM on 05/08/2008

kee,
Obama hasn't won yet and it's a little late to 'be nice' to the Hillary people. Your candidate of unity never once admonished his supporters or requested they behave in a civil manner. Do you think his campaign can reach out to people they've been calling racist for months? Do any Obama supporters have a clue what an anathma that is to many of us? What is Obama's campaign planning on saying now? We were just kidding? Take a quick walk through the posts on HuffPost, Raw Story, Politico, etc and ask yourself if you'd want anything to do with the name calling and bile that's spewed in the comments sections. Would you really want to be associated with that?
A candidate is a reflection of their supporters and supporters are a reflection of their candidate. That may be the strongest argument against Obama's candidacy.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 AM on 05/08/2008

crl9,

You have spoken for me, as well. I won't vote for either Barry or McCain. It won't matter because I live in New York, which will be carried by the Democrat, WHOEVER THAT MIGHT BE.

But I sure as hell won't pump up the totals for Junior Hussein Obama, whose supporters have been so incredibly hateful. Never!!!

-MS

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 AM on 05/08/2008

You know what Obama did for your candidate? He didn't bring up her dirty little secrets or attack her by attacking her husband's character and that is something you Hillary supporters should be thankful for. Never once did he bring up a lie by Clinton on Monica Lewinsky, how they are funded by the Saudis and Dubai, how Bill Clinton still thinks NAFTA was a good idea and that is why Penn was talking to Colombia, how they pardoned their brothers before he left office, how he pardoned the girls from the weathermen underground, how Hillary lied about Bosnia, how she lied about supporting NAFTA, how she talks bad about the white uneducated voters, and the list goes on.
He has been respectful and only argued about issues even when she was insulting his pastor while hers was convicted on sexual abuse on a seven year old child. So the great Hillary you see is in thanks to Obama. So thank him.
Oh yeah and go look up her record on New York she didn't do anything she said she would. Bring more jobs nada. Healthcare nada and we suppose to believe her. Do research on your candidate please.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 AM on 05/08/2008

You obviously don't live in New York, so your opinions about the job she's done are, to use your own word -- NADA! We New Yorkers like her just fine, thank you.

-MS

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 AM on 05/08/2008

Not really.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 AM on 05/08/2008

And nonsense posts written with the sole aim of revising known and accepted history, and casting insults at Obama and his supporters are precisely the reason why so many Clinton supporters get treated the way they do on so many blogs. That is precisely why there are perhaps only three blogs on the entire internet where the kind of whiney "Hilly's gonna win"! crap can be spread about without people busting out in hysterical laughter.
You never stop the stupidty no matter what offer is made. You are never even able to admit that sometimes you just might be wrong. It may be that you just don't know. So, just in case you don't,....you are wrong.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 AM on 05/08/2008

Sometimes Hilary supporters remind me of Bush supporters, bitter, unreasonbale and always ready with the insults when any of their dogman is questioned. They are bit like John Dean decribed in his book about authoritarian followers who need this strong mama figure, (only in Bush's case he was a strong daddy figure) to tell them what to think. Kind of scary. I'm glad Obama won.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 AM on 05/08/2008

Why don't you people knock it off and start acting like grownups and loyal Democrats?!? I'm the staunchest of Hillary supporters, and have managed to overcome my aversion to Obama enough to commit to voting for him in December. This *in spite of* the nasty, vitriolic Obama supporters. With at least 2 Supreme Court Justice seats up for appointment in the next 4 years, we cannot afford to be split going into this election cycle.

NOBODY could have been a more loyal supporter than me. But it's time for all sides to move on and build a bridge to victory. Who will help me to do that?!?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 05/10/2008

Both sides have been hostile. That's the point. And in a primary where the two candidates are very close in policy and voting record. You can take a quick walk through the posts, too. Both sides need to practice some civility. That has been true for months.

Now is a good time to start.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 AM on 05/08/2008

Personally i would still vote for Hillary despite me not liking her that very very much :)

I will literally do anything to keep the conse(R)vative nuts aways from the office.

Enough is enough, vote democratic!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 AM on 05/08/2008

Haven't you noticed that the Obama campaign has already started the general election race?

One sure sign is the 50-state voter registration drive Obama is kicking off this weekend, mobilizing his large army of volunteers. Beyond being smart politically (he needs young new voters to win in some states), this is a way to reach out and start to take control of the Democratic Party.

Good thing, because Dean sorely needs help.

By the way, the Democratic Party in my county is now 20% larger than it was a few months ago, mainly because Obama's campaign came through here during our primary and made it that way.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 AM on 05/08/2008

Wise counsel. . . .

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 AM on 05/08/2008

No rest for the weary..the time to rest is after the November election. In 04' my candidate lost the primary. Granted, it wasn't nearly as contentious as this one, but it stung and in my heart I did not like Kerry, but I did my utmost best to get that man elected. I put in hours volunteering on the streets, I blogged my heart out for the guy, and cast my vote for him, because I knew the alternative would be far worse...and I was right. There is but one thing I will say to Clinton supporters...SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES. We simply cannot afford McCain appointees, and there are at least 2 that will be up for retirement in the next four years. We have already seen the damage the SCOTUS can do with their "conservative" rulings...to tip the court completely conservative will affect this nation and a women's right to choose for at least the next 50+ years.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 PM on 05/07/2008

Supreme Court of the United States.

That's a great job for Hillary. After all, she could only be president for 8 years, but she could sit on the bench for 20-30 years. John Paul Stevens is 88 and ready to resign. I say Obama should make a deal with Hill to nominate her to the Court, ASAP.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 AM on 05/08/2008

I recall in 2004 John Kerry fell completely off the radar between the primaries and the convention. There might be some advantage to this "race" continuing, even with the outcome a foregone conclusion. It keeps media attention focused on the Dem candidates. In light of that, from this point onward it is crucial that they take aim at John McCain, rather than each other.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 PM on 05/07/2008

I will be voting for the Democrat, which presumably now is Obama. My criteria has always been electibility. The problem with Obama is that all his supporters are not going to be able to blame everything on the Clintons now. The point is the other side is ready to go with all the stories that were dismissed up until now by Obama supporters. Rezko, gun control, and a lot of others. Those will all be under the microscope. One talking point already being put out is "Is he going to appoint people like Wright and Ayers?" When the ads start rolling out in September, don't act surprised.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 PM on 05/07/2008

Rezko, never a problem (see Chicago Tribune extensive vetting)
Ayres, sorry nothing there, just neighbors and he was a child when A was active.
Wright, old and stale news. If he erupts, BHO already disowned him.

Major damage from these stories a result of their being pushed by a Democrat, in fact an act of betrayal. BHO couldn't fight back without trashing Hillary, a fellow Dem, even though she had already crossed to the dark side. Obama will show his street side against McCain, and it will be a beautiful thing. If fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't start roughing up McC in the next few days.

You should spend some time as a volunteer in Obama's campaign if you want to see calm under fire. It's a very deep pool of confident and relaxed citizens doing what has to be done-not a group of nervous nellies who jump from one gimmick to the next (gas tax holiday, anyone?)

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 AM on 05/08/2008

I believe both Democrats have issues. Obama's were more exposed than Clinton's however John McCain also has issues. Remember how easy it was for the Bush campaign to submarine McCain's campaign in South Carolina. William Ayers is a non-issue. Reverend Wright is scary, but by going nuts a few weeks ago, it is clear not only Obama but most rational people have separated from him. Since it has been hashed over and over again, it will lose its newsworthiness. Rezko is akin to Whitewater. The Clintons survived that, Obama will survive as well. The biggest challenge Obama has is that with the Clintons he was running a change campaign. This has less appeal when McCain is perceived as a maverick and has his name on a finance reform bill. Obama will have to contrast his message with McCain's in a way that has meaning. It will be very easy on the Iraq war. Obama must make a case on the economy and gas prices. I do not thing he will win shifting the debate from borrow and spend (McCain) to tax and spend (most democrats). More is needed. He also needs to come down hard on big oil. $100 billion dollars+ in total profits can no longer stand when we are footing the bill for a war that benefits them.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 05/08/2008

I like the first sentence of your post.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 AM on 05/08/2008

Attacking Clinton is not needed. Attacking McCain is what must start now, from both candidates. I believe it is over but, no matter what, we need to come together to take advantage of our opportunities to advance our ideas and our ideals.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 05/07/2008

That's a very passive-aggressive endorsement.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 05/07/2008

Thanks, Dr. Phil.