Military adds armor to Iraq vehicles as roadside bombs surge

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LOLITA C. BALDOR and CHELSEA CARTER | May 9, 2008 05:30 PM EST | AP

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In this Nov. 28, 2007 file photo, mine-resistant, ambush-protected vehicles (MRAP), produced by Navistar International, are loaded onto an airplane at the Charleston Air Force Base in North Charleston, S.C. The military has bought thousands of MRAPs to guard troops in Iraq and Afghanistan from deadly roadside bombs. The surge in attacks in 2008 is putting the vehicles to the test, and so far they are largely passing. (AP Photos/Alice Keeney, File)

WASHINGTON — The U.S. military is reinforcing the sides of its topline mine-resistant vehicles to shore up what could be weak points as troops see a spike in armor-piercing roadside bombings across Iraq, The Associated Press has learned.

The surge in attacks is putting the mine-resistant, ambush-protected vehicles (MRAPs) to the test, and so far they are largely passing. Statistics reviewed by the AP show that while bombings involving the deadly penetrating explosives have jumped by about 40 percent in the past three months, deaths in such bombings have dropped by as much as 17 percent.

Officials attribute much of the decline in deaths to the increased use of MRAPs, pronounced "M-raps." To date, about a half-dozen troops have died in incidents that involved the new bomb-resistant vehicles, and several of those deaths occurred in rollovers rather than from explosives penetrating the armor.

Military officials spoke on condition of anonymity about the statistics because some are classified. Details of specific incidents often are not provided, making it difficult to determine which type of vehicle is involved in each roadside bombing.

Army spokesman Paul Boyce said that commanders are increasing safety training to help troops better learn how to handle the heavy, ungainly vehicles.

"We're emphasizing the limitations of the vehicle's handling and the importance of understanding the lessons learned after some close calls," said Boyce, adding that the training also focuses on how to get out in an emergency. In addition, officials stress the importance of inspecting and using seat belts.

Meanwhile, at Camp Arifjahn in Kuwait, the military is reinforcing some MRAPs with additional side armor _ and it shipped as many as 20 of the newly upgraded vehicles to the battlefront in April. An additional 30 are to go into Iraq beginning this month.

Navy Lt. Cmdr. James Hadley, who is overseeing the upgrades in Kuwait, said not every MRAP is getting the additional armor, which increases the vehicle's weight by as much as 5,000 pounds. The extra protection, he said, is being added to vehicles destined for hot battleground areas.

The additional armor is shipped in kits to Kuwait and installed on the MRAPs, which only recently arrived at a facility dedicated to outfitting the vehicles with antennas and equipment before being sent to troops.

Roadside bombs have long been a primary killer of troops in Iraq, and in May 2007 Defense Secretary Robert Gates declared that the speedy purchase of MRAPs was the Pentagon's top acquisition priority. The vehicles have a V-shaped hull and sit about 36 inches off the ground, so when a bomb explodes the blast is directed out and away from the troops riding inside.

Congress has provided more than $22 billion for at least 15,000 of the vehicles the Defense Department plans to acquire, mostly for the Army. The Marine Corps, citing reduced violence in Iraq and the awkward size of the vehicles, has already announced it wants only 2,300 _ 1,400 fewer than initially planned.

The vehicles cost between $500,000 and $1 million each, depending on their size and how they are equipped.

"We will continue to improve the quality of the armor protection on the vehicles," Army Lt. Gen. Stephen Speakes said in an AP interview this week. "Our strategy will be a combination of improving the fleet that is already fielded over in combat, as well as putting additional capability on in the factory."

Speakes, deputy chief of staff for Army resources and equipping, was in Iraq recently and got to test drive one of the MRAPs and talk to commanders about their use. Roughly 3,000 of the vehicles are in Iraq now, with thousands more to be delivered in coming months.

Speakes said that Maj. Gen. Rick Lynch, commander of the 3rd Infantry Division, told him that using the MRAPs has saved the lives of about 40 of his soldiers. Lynch's troops control a large region south of Baghdad.

"We naturally are conscious of cost, and conscious of how much America has sacrificed to put all that capability in the hands of soldiers," said Speakes. "But when you hear a division commander just say 'thank you ... I estimate you've saved 40 of my soldier's lives,' it kind of puts it all in a different perspective."

Details of deaths related to the MRAPs are not readily available. But one soldier died early this year when his MRAP hit a very large, deeply buried roadside bomb and overturned. The soldier was the gunner, and he was sitting atop the MRAP, so it was not immediately clear whether he died as a result of the explosion or the rollover.

In other instances, one service member who was not wearing his seat belt was killed when a bomb exploded near his vehicle, and two soldiers were killed when their MRAP overturned. No other details were available.

Finally, in what may be the only instance in which explosives penetrated the MRAP, two soldiers were killed last week when the MRAP they were riding in was hit by what appeared to be one of the highly lethal explosively formed penetrators, called EFPs.

One or two other troops may have been killed previously in incidents that involved earlier, less heavily armored versions of the MRAP.

The spike in the use of EFPs can be tied in part to the surge in violence last month in Sadr City and Basra. U.S. and Iraqi troops have been battling Shiite militias there, including many armed with Iranian-made weapons.

According to military statistics, in the past three months:

_ EFP incidents in Iraq jumped by nearly 40 percent, while casualties related to those attacks went down by about 17 percent.

_ Overall roadside bomb incidents in Iraq increased about 10 percent, while casualties dropped by more than 40 percent.

_ Roadside bomb incidents in the Baghdad area, including Sadr City, rose by about 20 percent, and casualties went up 30 percent. Fighting spiked recently due to battles with Shiite militia members in Sadr City.

_ In the Baghdad area, EFP incidents increased by about 17 percent, while casualties fell by 43 percent.

Officials said that the bulk of the casualties around Baghdad during April were the result of the armor-piercing explosives.

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Associated Press Writer Chelsea Carter contributed to this report from Camp Arifjahn, Kuwait.

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Gee I'm sure these men and women putting their lives in danger. I have never seen such GROSS incomptenence like exist in this current administration.

This war NEEDS to end NOW!!!

Carol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 PM on 05/10/2008

Code Pink Protesters Try WITCHCRAFT at Anti-War Rallies...

What? Who knew they had RELIGION?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 05/10/2008

Well that should have Pat Robertson foaming at the mouth. Or at least foaming more than he usually does.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 05/10/2008

I've tried voodoo dolls, but to no great effect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 PM on 05/10/2008

There is no end to the lack of planning and foresight.

The MRAPS are so big they're fairly useless in the maze of alleys and narrow streets in Baghdad, and so tall they get hung-up in all the wires strung from building to building. My son's unit tried them, but went back to the regular humvees for patrols.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 05/10/2008

Adding armor to the vehicles at this late date? Shoulda been done five years ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 AM on 05/10/2008

think "weight" to prevent roll overs...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 PM on 05/10/2008

Five years ago they still had replacements enlisting so they didn't want to spend the money when they could simply send in more bodies. They never planned any of this past the initial invasion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 PM on 05/10/2008

Well, duh!
And DimLib's want the government running HEALTH CARE?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 AM on 05/10/2008

Well, duuuh, it's only been five years since Dubya declared "mission accomplished". What took so long, cretins?

The government is a little slow, you know how it reflects Bush/Cheney's minds.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 05/10/2008

Sorry if this was a bit off topic, but alas there is no string about government waste, or articles about the trillion plus dollars spent by this Congress in the past six months.
Nothing on Huff, or on Keith, and certainly not the evening news.
One wonders who GAO reports are intended for these days?
It would seem that Congress has little interest, and the press ignores them completly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 AM on 05/10/2008

Lets do the math: They spend $1,000 on an IED to blow up a $500,000 MRAP, we spend $500,000 on a cruise missle to blow up a $10,000 pickup truck. Makes sence, if you are an arms dealer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 AM on 05/10/2008

You do not even need $1000 IED to scrap the vehicle. And this is just the tip of the iceberg of this massive corruption. The looming bankruptcy of the US will put a crimp on this even though it does not seem like it right now.
1) countries are not buying (dumping) US treasuries and unloading $ reserves
2) Fed Reserve thieves are devaluing $ like there is no tomorrow to save their usurious banking system.
3) US is an empty hollow de-industrialized shell with standard of living diving and the "American dream" deader than a door nail. The golden goose of American middle class and industry has been plucked, beaten and starved and now it lays only excrement.

The Corpo-fascists only need to attack Iran and Venezuela, get entangled more in Pakistan and irritate Russia little more in Georgia and it will be done.

Every empire paid dearly for this hubris and this one will pay as surely as the sun rises in the morning. No amount of military hardware will stop it.
The US has only one chance to survive and it is to slam brakes on militarism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 05/10/2008

Ding. Ding. We have a winner. Let's not forget about China and Taiwan. We'd hate for them to be left out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 PM on 05/10/2008

Much of our problem with "defense" spending is that it is less about defense than it is about defense contractors.
A recent GAO report found that 95 Department of Defense (DoD) weapons programs worth $1.6 trillion had a total of $300 billion in cost overruns.
Instead of demanding greater budget accountability and fiscal prudence, our "representatives"" answer to corruption and government waste is not to provide oversight, but to actually make overruns policy.
Believe it or not, some in Congress want to automatically lock in defense spending by establishing five percent of GDP as the floor for defense spending, basically writing the Pentagon a blank check.

$300 billion " just in cost overruns. That's enough to run the operations in Iraq and Afghanistan for two years.
With a $400 billion budget deficit and a $9 trillion national debt, when will we begin to pay attention to how our tax dollars are being spent and when will main stream media begin to actually report on government waste?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 AM on 05/10/2008

BIG WHOOPITY DOO-DOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SIX YEARS AND 4000 DEAD SOLDIERS LATER???????????????

I AM NOT IMPRESSED ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 05/10/2008

.
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED???


WHEN???
.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 05/10/2008

Welcome to year 5 of the hundred year occupation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 AM on 05/10/2008

So are there truck built sooooo big to handle all the flowers we will be greeted with?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 05/10/2008

This foolishness is worthy of Spy Vs. Spy..............anybody wanna guess the next move by the bombers?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 05/10/2008

umm, even bigger bombs?

Maybe, just MAYBE, if we'd safeguarded that 17 tons of high explosives instead of letting any Iraqi with a pickup truck haul some off they wouldn't have so much materiel to work with.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 AM on 05/10/2008

The preposterous Tough Guy,spend,equip,and kill madness goes on and on!The American People simply cannot come to grips with the fact that supposedly overwhelming military might will not,that is "NOT"solve all our problems!
We can not harken back to the days where we started out with just"MIlitary Advisers"and that grew and grew over the years to over 500,000 troops,and every piece of increasingly sophisticated military eqipment ,in our arsenals ,short of nuclear bombs,yet we could not convince the vast majorety of Vietnamese people and their neighbors we were nothing more than unwelcome intruders!
We simply cannot shed the mindset that we will achieve"Victory"in Iraq(what the hell ever that is),if we have to kill every one of those damned Islamo Facists!
HOW SAD!!!!!!!!!
It seems we will declare victory when the last remaining Muslim,who will probably be a 14 year old boy,is killed planting a roadside bomb while he shouts "Death to The Intruders"!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 AM on 05/10/2008

Bigger bombs

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 05/10/2008

I believe that the real story here is the fact that roadside bombings in Iraq are increasing, which is a disturbing indicator that, even after five years of war, conditions on the ground are not improving. We've got a Republican presidential nominee who has no problem with keeping our troops in Iraq for 100 years (as long as they are not being harmed), while the deadly violence directed toward them is steadily increasing. Yet, McCain tries to sell the false notion that things are getting better there. Are these stubborn warmongers unable to grasp the concept that those people will forever attempt to kill our troops?

The insurgents are obviously a savvy lot. Their original IEDs lost some of their killing power as we upgraded our troop carriers, so they in turn upgraded to EFPs, which increased the American casualties. Now, we have again upgraded our vehicles to protect the troops (at a huge expense, but undoubtedly worth it); therefore, to override the new upgrades, the insurgents will predictably move to the next level of powerful explosives. This vicious cycle will never end, while the expenses to keep our troops safe will increase exponentially, thus ever costing the American taxpayers more and yet more money. The time to pull out is quickly approaching, since we simply cannot afford to continue with this madness.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 AM on 05/10/2008

>...the real story here is the fact that roadside bombings in Iraq are increasing, which is a disturbing indicator that...

We are no more welcome in their country than we were 4 1/2 years ago. We should have deposed Saddam Hussein and then LEFT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 AM on 05/10/2008

How long until I see the civilian version of this thing tailgating me on the freeway? For when a Hummer is just too darn small.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 AM on 05/10/2008

Five years later?!

Our troops' lives, apparently, are not a high priority.

Disgusting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 AM on 05/10/2008

Protecting military vehicles exposed to IED's... Wow, those military leaders, movers and shakers came up with this on their own, these new concepts?

Protective gear for our military vehicles? What will they think of next?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 AM on 05/10/2008

Screw that 17 percent drop in deaths. Let's make it 100 percent.

BRING OUR TROOPS HOME!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 AM on 05/10/2008

They'll make excellent patrol vehicles, here, when the gasoline and food wars get underway.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 AM on 05/10/2008

Well, it's about time, don't you think?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 AM on 05/10/2008

"Who could have predicted?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 AM on 05/10/2008

A DAY LATE AND A DOLLAR SHORT!!!!!!!!! GUESS THE NEW CONGRESS IS SOOOOOO LIBERAL THEY DECIDED REAL MEN NEED PROTECTION TOO

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 AM on 05/10/2008

Whoa, how do you and I read this so differently? Congress appropriated the $$$ but the military spent it with nothing like speed. It's like the less-than-full-speed-ahead deal on body armor and up-armoring Humvees. The contracts must go to buddies, and that slows things down.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 AM on 05/10/2008

"Military adds armor to Iraq vehicles..." Gee, I wonder when they decided to do this? Was it when we hit the 4000th casualty? Hmm... Well they are just too quick for me!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 AM on 05/10/2008

After 5 freaking years they're still adding armor???? WTF were they driving before, convertibles?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 AM on 05/10/2008

are those people nuts trying to drive the invaders out of their country. this is our oil now and we deserve it we are americans. we gave them democracy and look how they treat us.

we are the living example of democracy we even have politicans paying off each others debts. so what if they are worth 50 million they deserve it not the poor.

the we care of the poor thing is all a sham to get your votes while edwards gets his 400 dollar haircuts and obama pays off hillarys vainty debt.

and hillary drinks beer in the local bar to prove she is one of you. suckers. one born every minute.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 AM on 05/10/2008

"and hillary drinks beer in the local bar to prove she is one of you. suckers. one born every minute."

You're right, a sucker is indeed born every minute..... They are called repuglicans, and most like you are little more than sociopaths.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 AM on 05/11/2008

Will people soon be driving MWRPs in the U.S., like they like to drive Hummers. I wonder how many miles to the gallon MWRP's get? Maybe one or two.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 AM on 05/10/2008