Clinton Still Attacking Obama On Campaign Trail

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CHARLES BABINGTON and BETH FOUHY | May 10, 2008 07:37 AM EST | AP


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Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., right, shakes hands with supporters in Beaverton, Ore., Friday, May 9, 2008. (AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)

PORTLAND, Ore. — Campaigning a few miles from each other Friday, Barack Obama trained his eye on November and the GOP, while Hillary Rodham Clinton battled for her political life, trying to hang on a bit longer in hopes of denying him the Democratic presidential nomination.

Obama, increasingly confident that Clinton cannot overtake his lead, ignored her in his prepared remarks at a Portland-area workplace. Instead he pointedly criticized Republican Sen. John McCain's economic, health and Iraq policies, saying the probable GOP nominee would continue failed Bush administration priorities.

When asked about Clinton, Obama heaped more praise than criticism on the New York senator, continuing his efforts to avoid antagonizing her or her supporters. Speaking later with reporters, Obama hinted that he might help Clinton retire her campaign debt if he prevails.

Also campaigning in Portland, ahead of Oregon's May 20 primary, Clinton took the opposite tack, knowing she can't take on McCain unless she somehow derails Obama. At a round-table at Doernbecher Children's Hospital, she criticized Obama's health care plan for promising universal coverage to children but not adults.

"An artificial distinction between children and adults is unworkable," Clinton said. "You've got to have a seamless health care system which covers every single person. My plan does, my opponent's doesn't."

She added, "This is a big difference in this campaign. It's not a difference of politics so much as commitment. ... How can anyone run to be the Democratic nominee and not have a universal health care plan?"

Obama, a first-term Illinois senator, says he has not secured the Democratic nomination, even as party superdelegates continue to abandon Clinton, or their previously undeclared status, and endorse him. But his campaign increasingly looks like a general election affair, with him focusing on McCain and devoting two full days this week to Oregon, a perennial battleground state between the two parties.

Speaking to a few dozen employees of Vernier Software & Technology, which develops educational materials, Obama said McCain was "dead wrong when he said recently that he thinks our economy has made 'great progress' under George Bush. Is there anyone outside of Washington D.C., who could truly believe that?"

He rebuked McCain for supporting Bush's "tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans," a temporary halt to the federal gasoline tax and continued heavy U.S. presence in Iraq.

Obama did not mention Clinton until an employee asked about their respective health care plans. He acknowledged Clinton's criticisms, but said the government should not penalize low-income adults who choose not to buy health insurance even with a significant government subsidy.

When asked if he might make Clinton his running mate, Obama said it would be presumptuous to speculate because "I have not won this nomination yet."

"But I will say that she has shown herself to be an extraordinary candidate and an extraordinary public servant," he said. "She is hardworking, she is tough, she is very smart. And so I think she would be on anybody's list, short list, of vice presidential candidates."

He predicted Clinton will win the Kentucky and West Virginia primaries "by significant margins," although he will campaign in those states next week.

After stopping for lunch at Luis' Taqueria in Woodburn, Ore., Obama told reporters it was premature for him to talk with the Clinton camp about possibly helping her retire her multimillion-dollar campaign debt, much of it from Clinton's personal loans.

Asked if he might consider such a move later, Obama said: "Historically, after a campaign is done and you want to unify the party, particularly when you've had a strong opponent, you want to make sure that you're putting that opponent in a strong position so that they can work to win an election in November. And so obviously I'd want to have a broad-ranging discussion with Senator Clinton about how I could make her feel good about the process and have her on the team moving forward."

Meanwhile Friday, Clinton began airing an ad in Oregon in which former CIA operative Valerie Plame and her husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, say the New York senator has the strongest plan to end the war in Iraq.

Clinton's top fundraisers and advisers said she would continue campaigning through the final primaries, believing voters in the remaining six contests deserve a voice in the nominating process.

Hassan Nemazee, co-chairman of her finance committee, said her fundraising in recent days had been sufficient to carry the campaign through the next several weeks. "There is no reason for her to stop now," Nemazee said.

The McCain campaign issued a lengthy rebuttal to Obama's remarks. It noted that Obama once supported a gas tax suspension, which Obama now calls a mistake. It accused him of seeking unwise hikes in taxes and spending.

 
 

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Obama's own words, buried by the media and his robotic followers. You can't argue with words because they do matter.

Quotes from the Audacity of Hope, from the 'Great Unifier" Barack Obama. Want to know him, read his book. Of course, that's asking a bit, isn't it?

From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'

From Dreams of My Father: 'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.'

From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mothers race.'

From Dreams of My Father: 'There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'

From Dreams of My Father: ; 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'

From Dreams of My Father: 'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.'

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 PM on 05/17/2008

Part Two

Even with her profoundly obvious past and even present faults, I was willing to cast my vote in her direction like so many others. But somewhere in the late 2007 area (when I started actually paying attention) I didn't get the sense of "we" from Senator Clinton as much as "What I will do as your dictator ...umm, President!!"

My point is I want a president who is looking out for "us" from this day forward. I honestly don't mind about who voted for or against war THEN, but I do mind GREATLY on the WHY and even more on the reasons NOW for staying or leaving being sane and prudent!

Senator Clinton proved to me on more than one "which identity will appear today?" occasion, that her candidacy was not for me or "us".

All that said, if I had seen more ads like this, I think I might have actually voted for her. This ad is too little, too late.

Instead, I have been swept up by that relative nobody who is turning out be quite a SOMEBODY.

That somebody has spoken on EVERY occasion, the language of "WE". I could not agree more with his message of unity and faith in one another to help in overcoming adversity.

My vote AND my money go to Senator Barack Hussein Obama for President of OUR United States of America!!

Now where did I put my rose-colored glasses¦

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 AM on 05/12/2008

***CONSPIRACY***ALERT***

Call Oliver Stone!! Does Valerie look like she's under duress??!! :-)

Part One

I applaud Senator Clinton on a very succinct, clean "come vote for me" ad. Albeit just a wee bit too late in the campaign. If this had been something I saw a year ago, I might have turned my glance in her direction.

Briefly, I was very much turned off by the "just another run for the presidency" by the same cast of characters who thrill me so very little. Cue Senator Obama and a fresh twist on American Dream and suddenly I'm sucked into politics like a dreamy eyed young Republican cooing over Ronald Reagan. I gave him about as much chance of winning as Mike Gravel (sorry Mike), but he did get me thinking. I made the exact same assumption as Senator Clinton's campaign did - - that she was going to wipe the floor with every other candidate. Somewhere along the line, that assumption of presumption gave way to flagrant egotism in the Clinton campaign. I cannot begin to tell you put off I was by that single lack of virtue. I sense that also affected Iowa voters right on through to Super Tuesday and beyond. We all know the story and it will no doubt be fodder for many a book, including Senator Obama's grand campaign strategy. But back to Senator Clinton.

(see next post)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 AM on 05/12/2008

Then she wonders why no one likes her. She doesn't deserve anything. She is in the race to try and destroy Obama and she will continue as long as she is in the race. There is no way Obama can truust her with the VP and I hope and pray that doens't happen. HRC has burned too many bridges and has proven to be a sore loser from day one. Instead of unifying the democratic party she is still dividing it. Sure she may win West Virginia and kentucky and mark my words, she will come out wth some more racist comments. Both of thos states are primarily white and she will insist she has momentum. The race is over and it's about time the super delegates make their decision. The more time we allow this woman to campaign, the more free time John Mccain has. She can't be trusted, besides, we don't need Bill Clinton anywhere near the White House. The both of them have proven if they don't get their way, then no one wins.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 05/11/2008

Whaattt??? Pointing out that the nation can ill afford a bifurcated health program wherein children's support is mandated but adults' health care remains optional and in the capable hands of the insurance industry is an attack on Sen. Obama? Such was the substance of the blog and the Pavlovian response of dbrockx. We are indeed in Never--Never Land now.

Even to his mindless cheering section in this blog, one would hope that our virtually certain candidate is not assumed to speak ex cathedra, or that his administration would be burdened by such an albatross as his platform to our most problematic domestic economic component. Sen. Obama's solution to the health care crisis is unrealistic; Sen. Clinton's healthcare plan, though only a first step toward the logical and comprehensive plan that she advocated in the '90's, is an order of magnitude preferable to Sen. Obama's

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 05/11/2008

You said: "Sen. Obama's solution to the health care crisis is unrealistic; Sen. Clinton's healthcare plan, though only a first step toward the logical and comprehensive plan that she advocated in the '90's, is an order of magnitude preferable to Sen. Obama's"

On the contrary, it's Clinton's plan that is unrealistic. In order for it to go through Congress has to pass it and it needs to be something both sides can live with. Clinton's plan will be demolished by the republicans, while on the other hand Obama's give more flexible working room that gives it a higher chance of succeeding.

She couldn't pass it the first time around, because she was stubborn and had to have it HER WAY ONLY........................she's never willing to work as a team to solve problems she assumes only she's right about. We do not need that kind of leader again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 05/11/2008

Wrong again!! I deleted a paragraph from my response relating to the specifics of that subject. I could have pointed out that in 1996, following the defeat, before a hostile Congress, of a single payer plan, a first step in the First Lady's plan was, in fact, enacted (CHIP) against a NeoCom dominated Congress through skillfully applied pressure from the then Clinton Administration in defeating Newt Gingrich's threat to "shut down the government". The First Lady's children's health component Sen. Obama has already locked into his healthcare plan as the only mandated national health portion he advocates. Sen. Clinton along with virtually all of the former Democratic candidates as well as the party's senatorial, congressional and gubernatorial candidates have pressed for universal coverage as have most of the health care economists (except for the insurance industry of course) and even, surprisingly, much of the more conservative MSM.

Given the probability of a progressive and intellectually responsive Democratic Congress working with an Obama Administration dedicated to delivery of health care to everyone, unless, of course, Pres Obama is somehow obligated to the insurance industry (God forbid!), enactment of a mandated health care plan should be the easiest plank of his future administration. Economics will ultimately demand a single payer plan which will surely follow the model of the First Lady. Presently 38% of US expenditures for health care are consumed in administration [10 times the administrative cost of Medicare]; Sen. Obama's bifurcation would only compound this absurdity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 05/11/2008

The attacks that Hillary has made during the campaign should serve to disqualify her for any chance at a VP slot. Her actions should have consequences. Her statement about McCain being a better candidate than Obama, her use of the Jeremiah Wright gaffe, her lies about NAFTA, Bosnia and such need to be punished. She has hurt the democratic party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 PM on 05/11/2008

In March of this year Hillary said:

"I think that I have a lifetime of experience that I will bring to the White House. I know Senator McCain has a lifetime of experience to the White House. And Senator Obama has a speech he gave in 2002," Clinton says.


There's no way she can be on the ticket with Obama without the Republicans launching a major media attack using Hillary's own words to destroy Obama's campaign for president.

Hillary Clinton could have run a good, clean campaign based on ideas and platforms. She didn't. She and Bill took the political low road in the same path of Bush & Karl Rove. Now come the consequences.

Hopefully Hillary will play out the balance of the campaign without totally destroying what image the Clintons have left. Time will tell whether she goes out with dignity or screaming and clawing all the way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 PM on 05/11/2008

It is so crystal clear at this point.

Senator Obama has
won the most states
won the most pledged delegates
won the most super delegates
won the most votes
raised the most money - sure the broke DNC realizes the significance of this one

What justification can there be for keeping the racist hillary horror show on the road?

Don your KKK hoods folks, we're headed to West Virginy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 05/11/2008

Does anybody still not know why we don't have universal health care today?

With a Democratic president, a Democratic majority in the House and a Democratic Majority in the Senate it should have been a cake walk to pass this legislation.

BUT hillary screwed it up so bad with her secret meetings, ties to lobbyists, promises of payola to insurance companies and runaway hubris.

Because of hillary's massive ego untold millions were not covered and not treated. There is no way to account for the number of deaths caused by lack of care.

You lie clintons - all three of you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 AM on 05/11/2008

Hillary still hasn't learned from her colossal failure on health care. The perfect is the enemy of the good. And she's willing to once again torpedo any progress on health care if she fails to get her way. All that "experience" and you think she would have learned something.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 05/11/2008

The day is coming soon. The fall of the House of Clinton...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/at-last-the-fall-of-the-house-of-clinton-825913.html

I hope the House of Bu$h implodes as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 AM on 05/11/2008

Thanks for the link. IT's a good article, although I think that Oscar Wilde's Portrait of Dorian Grey is a more appropriate analogy than the House of Usher. hillary gets nastier and ulgier by the day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 05/11/2008

I agree with the Dorian Grey analogy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 05/11/2008
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 AM on 05/11/2008

I'm just waiting for Hillary to drop the "N" word.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 05/11/2008

Well she did in a off-handed sort of way with her "Sen. Obama"s support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me."

The moment I heard this I thought wow, is she implying the AA community doesn't have any hardworking blue collar members anymore?

But with regards to your comment Grav, if she does it will be preceded by 'Them Shiftless'.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 PM on 05/11/2008

I wanted to hang up the pantsuits and close the closet door but it looks like I will have to keep looking at them until June 3rd.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 AM on 05/11/2008

Clinton is so past tense. It's almost comical to see her out campaigning as though this election is still up for grabs. Saturday Night Live opened their show last night with a little skit depicting Hillary Clinton as a SORE LOSER....And, the sad truth is that in real life, she's acting the part in earnest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 AM on 05/11/2008

Somebody get a hook. This woman is making a total fool out of herself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 AM on 05/11/2008

Like the guy from the LATimes said the other night on MSNBC, at this point, it's just a question of how much scenery she takes with her when she exits the stage, and how many audience members.

Not very classy, Hillary. But then again, you never were, were you -- really?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 AM on 05/11/2008

Hillary, please stop. You're getting asthma.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 AM on 05/11/2008

Just watched "Corpse Bride" again. It struck me: Hillary is "Corpse Candidate". Dead. She knows it. But she just wont rest.

/Gemma slaps herself for her irreverence/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 AM on 05/11/2008

Hillary is not that hard...to figure out.

She is just what.... Ann Landers said:

......."People are like...tea bags."

......."You never know ... what they are made of....until you see them .... in hot water."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 AM on 05/11/2008

Don't believe our last two term First Family?
See the Sunday New York Times.
Obama is a corrupt fraud.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 AM on 05/11/2008

To: whizkid

You're obviously a passionate Clinton supporter. Nothing wrong with that. In looking at the record of comments on your Profile page, however, I note that you have a penchant for being fairly obstreperous and insulting, particularly in attacking anyone who writes something you don't agree with.

I'd like to suggest that you consider an alternative method, one that emphasizes a less hostile approach. If you think about it, you should realize that you're not going to change someones opinion by insulting them. By taking that tack, you're actually accomplishing less than nothing. As you can see from this particular comment, all you are accomplishing is inviting others to attack you in a the same way you attack others.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 05/11/2008

Mo Ron

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 05/11/2008

whizdabed is not a democrat - just here to pull our chains

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 AM on 05/11/2008

whizzy haven't you figured out yet that trashing Obama doesn' t help hillary? If she can't win on her own merits, sliming obama won't work either. The proof is in the pudding.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 AM on 05/11/2008

Is it really a Clinton supporter? I only though one of Rush's peeps were that angry and dumb. Oh well, live and learn I guess.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 AM on 05/11/2008

Get off the DRUGS!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 AM on 05/11/2008

Guess seeing your canidate going down in flame too much for you? Lashing out? It's done and she's done. Welcome back to reality

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:12 AM on 05/11/2008

Hillary can still EASILY get the nomination. All she has to do is switch to the Republican party and she can beat McCain at the convention.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 AM on 05/11/2008

LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 AM on 05/11/2008

wsWs. ( That means: Wishing she WOULD switch---to the Republicans. She might as well, she is in bed with them anyway, pretty much.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 AM on 05/11/2008

I love it when the Democrats say they would rather vote for McCain than Obama.
That"s the kind of thinking that put Bush in office for 8 years.
That"s the kind of thinking that will sink America as a super-power and hand the reins over to China.

If I can"t have MY candidate in office, than I will destroy everyone"s chances of returning to a normal government.
It"s MY candidate or eternal war and debt until there"s nothing left. That will show them! Four more years of "stay the course".

You will all get what you so richly deserve. And you will get it hard and repeatedly. Even if they have a crappy candidate, the republicans stay united.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 AM on 05/11/2008