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Rep. Tom Allen: Obama Needs Bigger Dem Majorities In Congress

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May 13, 2008 10:45 AM


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Sam Stein is a Political Reporter at the Huffington Post, based in Washington, D.C. Previously he has worked for Newsweek magazine, the New York Daily News and the investigative journalism group Center for Public Integrity. He has a masters from the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism and is a graduate of Dartmouth College. Sam can be reached at stein@huffingtonpost.com.


One of Barack Obama's recent high profile endorsers has two pieces of advice for the Illinois Democrat: don't nudge Hillary Clinton out of the primary before she's ready, and pray for big Democratic congressional majorities in the fall election.

"Half of the lesson of the past year is that a president [can easily obstruct the will of Congress]," Rep. Tom Allen, the Democratic challenger to Sen. Susan Collins in Maine, told The Huffington Post. "The other half of the lesson is that in the U.S. Senate, 51-49 doesn't cut it. You can't make the Senate work when it is narrowly divided. Fifty-seven or 58 Democrats give Obama a working majority, something he could effectively use to address some the challenges we face, challenges that are much worse than when president Bush took office."

Allen, who announced his support for Obama on Monday, said that if the Democratic frontrunner wanted a "working majority" as president, it would require somewhere between five to seven additional Democratic Senators in office. Such a gain borders on the very optimistic even in this a favorably Democratic year. According to the Cook Political report, there are five Republican Senate seats vulnerable to Democratic takeover, and an additional two that could be won by a Democrat but are leaning towards the GOP.

But before entertaining congressional margins, Allen cautions that Obama first must work to bring the party together. And while Democratic unity does not necessitate choosing Clinton as the vice president -- though Allen did note that the former first lady is "obviously qualified" and should be "among those considered" -- it did require a smooth landing in what has been a somewhat turbulent primary campaign. That meant, at least by Allen's terms, no premature pushing of Clinton to leave the race, and, in exchange, no negative campaigning by the New York Democrat.

"It sounds," said Allen, "like she is certainly striking a different tone from what I hear her saying today compared to before North Carolina. And that is helpful by itself. That is part of what we need if we are going to reconcile these two camps in a responsible way."

Ending the primary battle aside, Allen saw (and explained away) other political tripwires in Obama's path. Concerning Obama's potential fundraising dilemma -- he could opt into the public financing system for the general election and earn credits among government reform groups or forgo the funding to allow for a serious financial advantage over John McCain -- Allen, a proponent of public funding, argued that the Senator had already successfully maneuvered a middle ground.

"I do believe that he has transformed presidential fundraising by relying so much on relatively small donors," Allen said. "We don't have all that many healthy developments in the world of political finance, but that is a healthy development. And I think there is a very good argument -- he has a choice now and he should consider what works best for him. And certainly, the fact that he's relying on so many smaller donors is a wonderful, remarkable breakthrough when it comes to fundraising."

As for the argument, made most recently by the Clinton campaign, that the Illinois Democrat would not prove as great a help to down-ticket Democrats in toss-up districts, Allen noted that both time and energy are on Obama's side.

"The two of them would play differently in different parts of the country," he said. "Remember, we have till November. If a week is a lifetime in politics, then five and a half months is an eternity. I believe Barack Obama filled the theme and context of change better than anyone I've seen in a very long time. There are very similar parallels to what Bill Clinton did in 1992... and as the candidate who certainly in Maine and across the country was able to draw independents and many Republicans, that is a very powerful position to run from."

Indeed, Obama's support in Maine, where he won the Democratic caucus by some 4,000 votes, could be a significant boost to Allen's own electoral hopes.

"[Obama] and I share important priorities," said Allen. "We want to achieve universal health care, we want to reign in these gas prices that are going through the roof, we have to have a climate change policy that makes us freer of foreign oil, we have to bring our troops home from Iraq and help the middle class business community. It is not change that we can pry together in a night. The Senate races and this presidential race will be fought along many of the same lines and have the same implications."

 
 

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No need to push Hilary out the race she is an IDIOT let her run up her debt and then find out its all for NAUGHT. Obama better not pay it. Obama needs a Governor as VP Tim Kaine of Virginia. He doesnt need the Clintons under his foot AMerica does NOT NEED IT.

Carol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 PM on 05/13/2008

"pray for big Democratic congressional majorities in the fall election."

wow! such insight! duh

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:22 PM on 05/13/2008

Maybe if Democratic congressional majority actually HELPED we would all pray for them. As it is they are no different. So instead I pray for an Obama administration because he is not as ideological as the other administration he has the uncanny ability to listen to people he dont agree with and see where they can reach common ground.

Carol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 05/13/2008

Yep, yep - so true....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 AM on 05/14/2008

What has been gained by all of the pressure on Hillary Clinton to drop out of the race? The pressure from the media is finally being critically appraised by thougtful, objective journalists (there are a few still around). The pressure being exerted by the Democratic party and prominent Democratic politicans is unprecedented, and time will tell what ramifications this has for the party.
The clamor from bloggers and posters is almost deafening, but it is not in either the democratic tradition or the Democratic party tradition (many Democratic candidates have gone all the way to the Convention with far fewer delegates that Clinton has amassed, including as I recall Jesse Jackson and Ted Kennedy).
I was an Edwards partisan, and have not been won over by either Clinton or Obama. It seems clear to me that the battle for the nomination has been good for Obama, for the party, and for the Democratic process. The pressure on Clinton to quit the very close race may have resulted in her taking a more negative tone than she would otherwise have done, although she might have campaigned the same way if she had not been under so much pressure to pull out, given the close race. I do think that the comments from some in the Obama campaign (i.e. the "monster" label) and the unrelenting negativity toward Clinton have created a situation where the only solution will be an ObamaClinton ticket.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 PM on 05/13/2008

It will never happen. I for one would never vote for Hillary under any circumstances for the way she ran her campaign. Obama is our choice, not Hillary. Hillary brought about her own downfall. If people can't see what a nasty person she is, then they shouldn't vote for Obama. Obama ran his campaign with integrity, not, corrupt like Hillary. She is still using nasty tactics today in WV, even though she will win anyway. We have had enough of the corruption from the Bush administration, we don't need another Clinton administration. If you haven't read about the things Hillary has done and is still doing, you shouldn't vote.Hillary will be lucky to keep her Senate seat with the underhanded things she has done. By the way, I voted for Bill twice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:27 PM on 05/13/2008

Well, first, the race isn't close. But that aside, the calls for Clinton to withdraw have everything to do with her style of campaigning. If Hillary had concentrated on telling people why she was the better candidate instead of dreaming up reasons why they shouldn't vote for Obama—some of which were patently falst—the reaction to her staying in the race would be completely different.

That's the way I feel. I see no reason why she should drop out of the race. But the minute she starts telling her tall tales about Obama, I start resenting her campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 05/13/2008

nellie: Well, the margin that Obama has over Clinton at this point perhaps is not "razor thin" but it is not that large either. And that is my point. Clinton has a lot of support; why write off or alienate her supporters? She also would bring some strengths to the ticket. As I said, I am not a fan of either Obama or Clinton, but I see some ways that an ObamaClinton ticket could help assure a Democratic victory in the GE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 05/13/2008

In November, supporters of either camps won't have to choose between Obama and Hillary. They'll have to choose between democrat or republican. 20 something percent of Hillary's supporters who are hardcore over her winning the primaries are not going to vote democrat. Booting or not booting Hillary won't change a darn thing about it. We might has well boot her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 05/13/2008

The ONLY solution? How about having the Clintons AND the Bushes step off for a while. Now THAT'S a solution...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 05/13/2008

Heartlander:

..there will NOT BE, neither does there NEED TO BE an Obama/Clinton ticket; HRC has been a disgrace to herself, Sen. Obama and the Democratic party...

meanwhile:

Even if Clinton wins 80-20 in WV, she will net 18 delegates over Obama (23-5). That doesn't even offset the number of Superdelegates Obama has received since JUST LAST FRIDAY. 9 on Fri, 5 over the weekend, 4 yesterday, 4 so far today. Also 2 or 3 of them switched from Hillary to Obama, as did - get this - ONE PLEDGED DELEGATE from Maryland. Yes, a delegate Clinton "won" in a primary has switched to Barack.

..HRC...your time to hit the road came and went... several times over already...

Obama 2008!

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 05/13/2008

Wanjiru;

As a Democrat, I lean toward thinking that the more people that get to vote, the closer we come to knowing the will of the people.
And I do not think that it is necessary or productive to vilify Hillary Clinton. She was a strong candidate and she has a lot of supporters. The time for her to withdraw from the race is when she decides that she wants to do so. Before Edwards withdrew, we saw the same phenomenon -- the pundits, bloggers and posters castigating him for staying in the race and demeaning him personally. You do not build up your candiate by trying to tear down all of the others.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 PM on 05/13/2008

Bill Clinton, everyone!

Let's all give him a round of applause for appearing here today!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 05/13/2008


I meant please "expound"....

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 05/13/2008

The delegate counts change frequently; however, I think that the following numbers are close to correct. Pledged delegates: Obama 1,591; Clinton 1,426. Total delegates: Obama 1,874; Clinton 1,701. This means that, at this point, Obama has about 53% of the delegates and Clinton has about 47%. Obama clearly leads, however, they are separated by less than 200 delegates. Looking ahead, the math seems to indicate that the Superdelegates will decide the winner and Obama will get the nomination. In the General Election, every voter will count, including all those who supported Clinton.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 PM on 05/13/2008


...I am sick and tired of hearing about this "close race"...close in what sense? Please expond...this has been ANYTHING but a close race...

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 PM on 05/13/2008

Many people are ready to strike the same tone the Sons of Liberty struck when they tossed British tea into Boston Harbor. People will not starve while the politicians parade around like peacocks making lame speeches about some sort of vague " change." We got " big Democratic majorities " last election and so what. The War goes on, gas is $ 4.00 a gallon., and groceries are more unaffordable every day. All the Democrats have done is pocket their pay checks and make speeches. Question : Since Democrats can't even stand up to an idiot cowboy how are they going to have the cajones to stand up to the real force behind Wars and poverty, the Central Banks and Eisenhower's military industrial complex ? Answer : They won't. McCain , Obama, and Clinton are all acceptable to the real Corporate powers in control. The Clinton's blabbered on about Health Care decades ago, all we got was NAFTA and Monica Lewinsky. Thanks to the Media, the only two who could create real change, Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul are nowhere to be seen. Obama and McCain are both pro War candidates, they just differ on which country to fight in. Neither has the intelligence to question the " Official " version of 9/11 and reopen the 9/11 investigation to find out what REALLY happened.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 05/13/2008

Eisenhower gave a big speech about oversight on the complex you just tagged his name to. And EXACTLY because Obama is not part of this Washington crowd, is why I believe things will either change - or be brought to light by their fighting against the policy he will try to put forward. And AFGHANISTAN WAS the war we needed to fight - we helped the Taliban and the Russians destroy that country, and we PROMISED them help. But you're right about the inaction/stalemate/waffling of the Dems brought into power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 AM on 05/14/2008

We didn't get big democratic majorities. That's just the point. We have a president who vetoes EVERYTHING that is right and good and helpful to the American people. We need a veto-proof majority for this administration, and we don't have one.

Our next president will be a democrat, not a sociopath, and that will produce a lot of helpful legislation for our country. But we still need numbers. We can't legislate with these razor thin margins.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 05/13/2008

HRC assumed an air of moral superiority wrapped in her femaleness, but showed how she's just another empty (pants) suit, just like so many male empty-suit politicians. Obama gives hope for something better. That's why, though I voted for her twice for senate, I can no longer support her pro-war, racist candidacy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 05/13/2008

By the tone she changed to...do you mean that Angry White Woman Tone??!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 05/13/2008

Yeah, I'm really confused by the changed tone comment; she's as mean now as she's always been...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 05/13/2008

Her gears are mean-meaner-meanest. He means she went down from hungry coyote to meanest :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 PM on 05/13/2008

I think a lot of the talk about a divided Dem party is premature blather.

When it all shakes out, supporters of BOTH candidates will unite to reach the ultimate goal:
Kicking the Republican Party from the White House and giving Pelosi a TRUE majority with which she can make changes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 05/13/2008

"I think a lot of the talk about a divided Dem party is premature blather."--I agree wholeheartedly. Kerry and Edwards had this race all locked up, but that didn't stop them from losing the GE. (Nobody needs to point out how Kerry actually won--he's not in the Oval Office, which is all that matters.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 05/13/2008

Hillary is a Republican in Wolves clothes! She means well but doesn't know how to hide her claws. ! Here is the last 2 minutes of a soldiers life Click here or Copy and paste the and pass it along to everyone in your address book! http://www.myspace.com/Craftymusic

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 05/13/2008

HRC is racist, we don't need another one of those in the White House? She is against African Americans, Educated Whites, and she has totally marginalized every other person of color in the US since Texas. Brown, red and yellow Americans are nonexistent, not to mention the blue and green people ;) Race has become a ridiculous topic in the 21st century with the earth in peril.

Our planet does not care about the color of our skin, so we need to all get over it!!! Especially the Clintons (this revelation has really been a shocker).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 05/13/2008

Yes, reconciliation, but let's not forget that Hillary has exposed rifts on the left, especially between old guard moderates/ liberals and progressives. The fact that Hillary's feminist supporters have not called her on certain comments and stances does not bode well for a healthy, as opposed to a merely tactical, reconciliation.

For further explanation (too long for a comment), please see, "Hillary is NOW Damaging Feminism"
http://msa4.wordpress.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 05/13/2008

Hillary id Damaging everything and everybody to achieve her goal to win the nomination. It is not about working class, it is not about women it is all and only about Hillary...I hope people wake up and see the true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 PM on 05/13/2008

same shit different day same Hillary different day

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 05/13/2008

Yep.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 05/13/2008

I hope he doesn't pick her as VP. She could be in his cabinet, but not VP.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 05/13/2008

Why should she be in his cabinet?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 05/13/2008

Yeah, she won't be so nice after her win in WV and KY. She'll be talking about Obama's "white" problem once again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 05/13/2008

Yeah, she can say that for all she wants. Haven't you realized she has started sounding like a broken bottle? Not to worry pal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 PM on 05/13/2008

I don't understand how she is stiking a different tone when she continues to suck from the "hard working, blue collar, white guy" teat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 AM on 05/13/2008

And just like white guy teats, she is getting nothing out of it...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 PM on 05/13/2008

Hilary is being nice now that she cannot win the nomination. Just another one of her many personalities....Joan of Arc, Annie Oakley, etc.

Obama '08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 05/13/2008

Maybe so, since Bloomberg is an Independent, who changed from republican. But, he was a Democrat at one time, before he changed to run for mayor, so maybe he might appoint a Democrat, but I agree it's a chance the DNC would be taking to take Clinton out the senate.

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