Serving the People vs. Clinging to Power

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Posted May 14, 2008 | 11:27 AM (EST)



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It's useful to compare the way China handled its national disaster with the way the Burmese handled the cyclone, and the way our Republican administration handled Katrina.

The Chinese premier immediately sent 50,000 troops with every conceivable type of disaster relief equipment to the affected area, and headed them up personally, climbing through the rubble and shouting to those trapped inside that help was on the way.

Since he couldn't put on a uniform and play soldier, Bush just sat on his duff and made speeches, calling on the people to help themselves.

The Burmese junta was willing to let tens of thousands of people die of hunger, thirst, exposure and disease rather than run the risk of letting a foreign 'agitator' into the country.

Odd that our 'democratic' leader barely did better than the Burmese junta, and much worse than the undemocratic Chinese.

Lincoln said our government was 'for the people', but this is not the motto of the Republican party, which views the American people as a rabble not to be trusted, and feels that information about what the government is doing should be withheld from anyone who can't afford to buy his girlfriend a hundred thousand dollar dress, or a three hundred thousand dollar watch that doesn't tell time. All others should be spied upon because you never can tell what unpleasant things they might be saying about their leaders.

It's easy to tell a democratic leader from a dictator. Democratic leaders are interested in the welfare of the people. Dictators are interested only in preserving their power.

The Republican attitude is closer to the Burmese leaders than to the Chinese, who seem to be inching toward becoming a little more open, while our Republican administration plunges toward ever-increasing secrecy and paranoia.

This Republican administration, for example, is as suspicious as the Burmese junta when it comes to disaster relief. This Republican administration regularly taps phone calls between Americans and relief groups like the Red Cross and Doctors Without Borders, in defiance of our own and international law. It makes hundreds of thousands of requests to libraries and other institutions for private information on reading habits of American citizens.

This administration seeks to justify the unchecked expansion of citizen surveillance on the grounds that it may, in millions of hours of listening to unsuspecting Americans, once in a blue moon uncover a bit of information about terrorist plans or weapons caches. The joke is that in Iraq the military is continually receiving voluntary tips about weapons caches that it lacks the resources to follow up on.

All this surveillance has little to do with terrorism and a great deal to do with stifling dissent. When people are put on No-Fly Lists or Potential Threat Lists for disagreeing with administration policy or reporting the truth about conditions in Iraq, it becomes clear that the Republican administration is simply terrified that the American people will discover just how corrupt, incompetent, and irresponsible it actually is.

 
 

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Ummm, 1800 people died as a result of Katrina...not exactly the same order of magnitude as Nargis or the China quake. The incompetence and corruption of the Louisiana and New Orleans governments as well as the hapless Army Corps of Engineers made the flooding inevitable. FEMA's response was bad, no doubt, but the stupidly designed levee system was the real culprit. Dutch engineers who came in after the storm said they could fix the whole thing for 5 billion dollars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 PM on 05/15/2008

As with Katrina, initial reports can be deceiving. The reports I'm hearing now (morning of 15 May) are saying the rescue/relief effort in China is "too little and too late" as the death counts go past 10,000 to 20,000 and beyond. Relief columns held up by blocked roads, army units trying to patch dams without the proper equipment, etc. Pretty much the standard stuff that happens in any major natural disaster. I think the major difference between China's response to the earthquake and our response to Katrina, is that we had a swarm of media rummaging through New Orleans willing to pass on the most fantastic rumors as fact (A dozen murders in the Superdome! Snipers firing on relief helicopters!) which our guys couldn't do anything about, while I'm sure the Chinese authorities are screening the reports out the earthquake zone to cut anything embarrassing.

Before you start comparisons, why don't you wait a few days to let the dust settle so you can see a little more clearly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 05/15/2008

"Relief columns held up by blocked roads, army units trying to patch dams without the proper equipment, etc. Pretty much the standard stuff that happens in any major natural disaster."

"Standard stuff" in America only after the arrival of the Bush Administration.

I will grant you that a response similar to China's on our part to a disaster here of the same proportion as China's is to be both feared and expected at least in the present and foreseeable future.

Why? Because Bush has seen fit to either wear out or keep far too much of the disaster response equipment and personnel our National Guard and Reserves formerly possessed in Iraq...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 05/15/2008

Well said. In the end a good government is one that serves its people, and by that measurement the Bush administration has been a travesty.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 AM on 05/15/2008

Only liberals will try to politicize a human disaster such as this. The clueless Louisiana Governor Blanclook unknowingly set-up Bush by saying they didn"t need any help. And "school bus" Nagin was the first to scream murder while his citizens suffered. Meanwhile, Congressman William Jefferson, Democrat, Louisiana, was busy commandeering National Guard resources to save his thawing $90k instead of his drowning constituents.

It seems, though, you admire the Chinese Communist Government. Why don"t you pull up stakes and make it your home? But, in the typical liberal fashion you overlook the fact that if the critical comments you just posted were aimed at your newly adopted China, you would certainly be imprisoned, tortured and everything else the Communists think you deserve. Just ask those poor people from Tibet. As I remind my teenager every now and then: "Be careful what you ask for, you just might get it".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 PM on 05/14/2008

'As I remind my teenager every now and then: "Be careful what you ask for, you just might get it".'

lolll...did your teenager ask for global warming? The prospect of 100 years of war in the Middle East? Soaring gas prices? A declining dollar? Stagnant wage growth? A moribund economy? Ever increasing income disparity? Reliance upon a fast-disappearing resource - oil - for our ability to feed ourselves and heat our homes? The disappearance of access to medical care? Opportunity whose equality can be measured by how much money you have?

lollll...because that is what those people you support have gifted his or her future with...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 05/15/2008

Your way or get out, huh? Look how that's turning out for the GOP. One by one, they're taking the walk of shame, one they deserve. And even in Katrina-devastated Mississippi, no less.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 05/15/2008

I'm not pulling up stakes and moving there because this is my home. I feel that we can be a better nation if we work for it. Abandoning something that isn't going your way is not a good way to live in my opinion. If the founding fathers would have said, "OK England-- you can tax the shit out of us" we would not be here today.

I disagree with your thoughts on if Mr. Slater had posted this story in communist China. Its more telling when you see that even the leaders of a "corrupt" communist government are more concerned with its citizens than our glorious democracy.

By the way, the cold war is over--communism isn't the enemy anymore. We have terrorists for that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 05/15/2008

Typical response from a typical Archie Bunker Patriot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 AM on 05/15/2008

Are you kidding me? Liberals trying to politicize a national tragedy?

Yeah, 9/11, conservatives would, 9/11, never do that! 9/11

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 AM on 05/15/2008

More liberal B.S. from a moron named Slater. The facts are already in on katrina. The state and local government bodies in N. Orleans ran and left their people twisting in the wind.I have never seen a group of people that had five days to prepare for a cat. 5 hurricane, do next to nothing. Oh, wait, they did do something, loot and steal their neighbors stuff and blame the feds
for not getting there fast enough. You would think, with the cat. 5 coming down the pipe, you would make a few sandwiches, gather some water bottles, maybe some crackers. No, just put your hands out, "where's my food, water, help me".The federal govt. backs up the state and local. Morons.In this case , the failure of the first 2, led to the slow start by the 3rd. The government can't hold your hand from birth to death.Yet most libs can't understand this. Socialism is one of many enemies to this great country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:59 PM on 05/14/2008

However, did you happen to notice what actually occurred?
The hurricane caused devastation in what? 3 states?
Those who had the ability to do so, (i.e. money, a car, etc) evacuated.
The local and state govt bodies, um ... had to evacuate also.

How in the world could you expect the local govt to have the resources to help?

If a ship sinks at sea, do you think the captain and crew are able to help the passengers
swim or are they too busy trying to survive themselves? That's what the freakin' Coast
Guard is for.

The SCALE of the devastation was such that the ONLY place help could come from was
from outside the states affected. The Mormons mounted a huge relief effort well in advance
of the storm's landfall.

The feds did come in and spent $1000/man/day to hire Blackwater goons to drive around
and threaten to shoot people instead of helping them.

All the stories I remember reading were about Jesus feeding people and healing the sick.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 PM on 05/14/2008

Capitalismisntamoral,

"The local and state govt bodies, um ... had to evacuate also"

What are you talking about? National Guard units (under state control) in the various states were on hand or in place before the storm hit, state and local police were there (yeah, I know about the NO police who went AWOL, but they were a minority of the force), engineers for the pumps and levees were on station. Sure, aircraft and boat assets were sent out of the storm's path, but they were heading back in as soon as the eye passed. These states have handled hurricanes before, and the local/state agencies had people and expertise on hand. There were a lot of screwups, and coordination problems at all levels (a lot fewer in Miss. than in La.) but don't say that there was nothing the local/state agencies could do. They had the initial response task, and for the most part they did a pretty decent job.

I think people forget - Katrina was a BIG and very powerful storm - once it hit New Orleans, and the levees were breeched, the people who were still there were in trouble, and even the best response possible wouldn't have been able to save most of them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 05/15/2008

The most important thing the local government in NO lacked was a PLAN. And the clueless voters rewarded the Mayor with another term. You get what you pay for.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 05/14/2008

NO was okay until the levees the Bush administration wouldn't fund to have improved broke.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 AM on 05/15/2008

Hey, we HAVE discovered how corrupt, incompetent, and irresponsible the Republican party is. We just don't have anyone(read Democratic congressional leadership) who can DO something about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 05/14/2008

Finally we found a government (Myanmar) that is even worse at handling a huge natural disaster than ours was at handling Katrina.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 05/14/2008

It's easy to tell a democratic leader from a dictator. Democratic leaders are interested in the welfare of the people.(OBAMA)..................... Dictators are interested only in preserving their power.(THE CLINTONS)


sorry, but with that statement you struck a cord.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 05/14/2008

SIMP- you need to look up the word dictator, You see,here in the US we have a president who leads, with the backing of congress.Grow up..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:10 PM on 05/14/2008

Yeah, but where'd they lead us to? Further, I have grave doubts whether he was elected legitmately in either 2000 or 2004. 2000 stolen in Florida and 2004 stolen in Ohio with the help of Diebold corporation and their voting machines. Everyone I know is worse off now than they were in 1999, of course I don't know any multi-millionaires, they are better off at least financially, as are most members of Congress. Imagine that!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 05/15/2008

You sound 'bitter'.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 PM on 05/14/2008
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