McCain Predicts The Iraq War Will Be "Won" By 2013

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GLEN JOHNSON | May 15, 2008 09:18 PM EST | AP

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Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., acknowledges supporters, Thursday, May 15, 2008, in Columbus, Ohio. (AP Photo/Kiichiro Sato)

COLUMBUS, Ohio — Republican John McCain declared for the first time Thursday he believes the Iraq war can be won by 2013, although he rejected suggestions that his talk of a timetable put him on the same side as Democrats clamoring for full-scale troop withdrawals.

The Republican presidential contender, in a mystical speech that also envisioned Osama bin Laden dead or captured, and Americans with the choice of paying a simple flat tax or following their standard 1040 form, said only a small number of troops would remain in Iraq by the end of a prospective first term because al-Qaida will have been defeated and Iraq's government will be functioning on its own.

"By January 2013, America has welcomed home most of the servicemen and women who have sacrificed terribly so that America might be secure in her freedom. The Iraq War has been won," McCain told an audience of several hundred here in the capital city of a general election battleground state.

Later, as the Arizona senator drove to the airport on his "Straight Talk Express" campaign bus, McCain was peppered by reporters with questions about the timetable. He and his aides insisted there was a difference between ending the war and bringing troops home and, as they criticize the Democrats, announcing a withdrawal upfront without regard for the military endgame.

"It's not a timetable; it's victory. It's victory, which I have always predicted. I didn't know when we were going to win World War II; I just knew we were going to win," McCain said.

The Vietnam veteran added: "I know from experience, you set a day for surrender _ which is basically what you do when you say you are withdrawing _ and you will pay a much a heavier price later on."

In the primary campaign, McCain had criticized former Republican rival Mitt Romney for hinting at a timetable.

Democrats challenged McCain's comments, led by presidential contender Hillary Rodham Clinton.

In a statement, the New York senator dismissed McCain and said he "promises more of the same Bush policies that have weakened our military, our national security and our standing in the world." The Barack Obama campaign said that while the candidate agrees with some of McCain's sentiments, "you cannot embrace the destructive policies and divisive political tactics of George Bush and still offer yourself as a candidate of healing and change."

Other Democrats equated McCain's comment with President Bush's May 1, 2003, speech on the deck of an aircraft carrier displaying a "Mission Accomplished" banner.

In his remarks, McCain peered through a crystal ball to 2013 and envisioned an era of bipartisanship driven by weekly news conferences and British-style question periods with joint meetings of Congress.

The senator conceded he cannot make the changes alone, but said he wanted to outline a specific governing style to show the accomplishments it can achieve. He backed up his remarks with a Web ad featuring similar content.

"I'm not interested in partisanship that serves no other purpose than to gain a temporary advantage over our opponents. This mindless, paralyzing rancor must come to an end. We belong to different parties, not different countries," McCain said. "There is a time to campaign, and a time to govern. If I'm elected president, the era of the permanent campaign will end; the era of problem-solving will begin."

To the disdain of some fellow Republicans, the likely GOP nominee has worked with Democrats on legislation aimed at overhauling campaign finance regulations, redrafting immigration rules and regulations and implementing government spending controls.

While that has cultivated a maverick image for McCain, the Arizona senator has also been accused of exhibiting a nasty temper _ swearing even at fellow lawmakers from his own party _ and unabashed partisanship.

In particular, McCain has clashed with the leading Democratic presidential contender, Barack Obama. After tangling with the Illinois senator on lobbying reforms, McCain questioned Obama's integrity in a publicly released 2006 letter.

McCain wrote he had thought Obama's interest in ethics legislation "was genuine and admirable," before adding: "Thank you for disabusing me of such notions." He accused Obama of "partisan posturing."

In outlining other potential achievements of a first term in his speech, the 71-year-old McCain implicitly was suggesting he would seek a second term, an attempt to mute suggestions he would serve only four years after being the oldest president elected.

In particular, he sees a world in which the Taliban threat in Afghanistan has been greatly reduced.

He added: "The increase in actionable intelligence that the counterinsurgency produced led to the capture or death of Osama bin Laden, and his chief lieutenants. ... There still has not been a major terrorist attack in the United States since Sept. 11, 2001."

McCain also pledged to halt a Bush administration practice of enacting laws with accompanying signing statements that exempt the president from having to enforce parts he finds objectionable.

 
 

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Watching McCain's crystal ball speech the other day I got the impression it had been put together by asking a roomful of people for random ideas. And it seemed he just took them all and put them into the speech.

There was no coherent design. It was like a bunch of wild-assed ideas written on a white board.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 05/17/2008

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Less Jobs. More Wars.

What is this 'Iraq war' charge on my bill?

http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/28073-less-jobs-more-wars

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 05/16/2008

Yeah, right!
Sunnis and Shias will be greeting each other with hugs and kisses!
But what about that 20% of the country that has fled to Jordan and Syria?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 05/16/2008

McBush, yer moving in the right direction as far as those numbers, but yer still off by 5 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 PM on 05/16/2008

McCain must be laying the groundwork for a 2016 run at the Presidency.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 05/16/2008

Just what we need! Another nut-job President, this.one with PTSD. Five more years to VICTORY! Whatever that would look like. And our troops trapped there in 130 degree heat alongside people who despise us after all the death and destruction. Why, it's just like Germany and Japan after WWII! And, after one to two trillion spent, John McCain has said: "I hate to tell you, there will be more wars". Sure as hell will be if he has his way. No negotiations!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 05/16/2008

"British-style question periods with joint meetings of Congress."

oooooo I wish we had that right now with President Bush. Just think of it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 05/16/2008

JOE LIE BERMAN S GIFT TO THE AMERICANS SOFAR.

Number Of Iraqis Slaughtered In US War And Occupation Of Iraq "1,209,263"


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Number of U.S. Military Personnel Sacrificed (Officially acknowledged) In U.S. War And Occupation Of Iraq 4,077


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Cost of U.S. War and Occupation of Iraq

$519,842,244,056

Has there ever been another country besides Israel to which American politicians are required to vow absolute allegiance?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 PM on 05/16/2008


This looks more and more like Nixon's "peace with honor" which actually meant lying, cheating, death, destruction, defeat, inflation, unemployment, disgrace, low morale.

No thanks Mr. McCain, we've seen that movie before.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 05/16/2008

How many more years of occupation of Palestine by the nazi zionistis?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 PM on 05/16/2008

And the little deserter was appeasing the nazionists.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 PM on 05/16/2008


Only one half of TRILLION Dollars more ! all this and 7$ a gallon gasoline, thanks McBush and Skeletor !
oh by the way we cant afford health care now for the next five years....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 PM on 05/16/2008

"oh by the way we cant afford health care now for the next five years"

I think about how much health care, education, and infrastructure support the war money would buy, and it becomes difficult to contain the rage I feel. $12 billion a month would cover the needs of every citizen in this nation. The acceptance from its citizens of this government's behavior and "leadership" :-( is coming to an end. Only Diebold can take it from us now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 PM on 05/16/2008


Hey guys, there is another side to this debate so I am going to chip in with Geo. Bush's
argument:

Building health care, schools, bridges is just more big government boondoggle spending. The role of government is to protect freedom and we are doing that by building health care, schools and bridges in iraq and Afghanistan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 PM on 05/16/2008

That's right. Privatize everything: fire departments, water supplies, roads through neighborhoods as well as highways, all bridges, urban transit systems. It's all working out so well for us. We ought to pay more for food and health care. Hell, fnb, you must live in a gated community with no access to reality! What freedom, dolt?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 05/16/2008

What do you think about this? Is it possible that John McCain and Joe Liberman are actually trying to get Obama elected? Cause this is just absurd. Like John Kerry helped get Bush reelected, Maybe McCain is actually trying to help the Dems? I mean WHO in there right mind and had any respect for our country would say that?

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 PM on 05/16/2008

McCain might as well promise whatever he can think of- because anyone voting for McCain is obviously too stupid to know when they are being lied to

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 05/16/2008

You mean like the people that voted for BUSH?????? Warning!!!! Warning!!!!!! Warning!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 PM on 05/16/2008

Hey, it's good to see that John has been boning up on his math - he finally realizing he probably won't be around for 100 years.

Please note also that 5 (instead of 4) years means that he'll have to be reelected to see that "his strategy" for victory can bring that victory. (anyone remember, "victory is at hand"?!)

And, lastly, if this is a promise, I'm still waiting for the chicken in my pot from the last one, eh?!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 PM on 05/16/2008

He must have rounded the numbers. (5 counting as one year). So, 1+4 makes 5. After that he would wash his hands and leave another big mess for the next comer. "Mission ACCOMPLICE!!!" he would say.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 PM on 05/16/2008

I believe he also said that Iraq would be a democracy, the Sunni's and Shiets will hold hands and sing kumbyia, our economy will be great, everyone will have healthcare, peace throughout the world, global warming gone, and we will all go down the yellow brick road singing, picking flowers and looking for the WIZARD! Deminita is sad, very sad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 PM on 05/16/2008

Wow, you pegged Obama's platform to the TEE !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 05/16/2008

Looks like the dementia... or the ammo got to you bob. Stop lickin' those lead bullets..... eh, never mind! Continue to lick the bullets.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 05/16/2008

5 more years ? Hell, the chicken hawk repubs could do that sitting on their fat asses no problem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 PM on 05/16/2008

"Republican John McCain declared for the first time Thursday he believes the Iraq war can be won by 2013"

Let's get real here. Everyone get out your pencils and calculators...five more years at $12 billion a month (that we KNOW of, that is) is how much? We are not working to support our families; we are working to support this war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 PM on 05/16/2008

Remember Armed Forces day tommorrow.

Here"s to the men of the red, white and blue;
Whose patriot"s hearts burned high ...
To the women who served us on land and on sea,
Some even in the sky.

I"d like to say, "Thank you, that we"ll never know
The outcome if you had not gone,"
And to tell you, "I"ll never forget your deed,
As long as my life lingers on."

For, I was a child, when the great war came,
And you just a dozen years more.
Some of you fought on a distant beach.
Some died on a foreign shore.

I"d hate to forget those heroes of old,
From the 'War to end all wars'.
Korea, Vietnam, and Desert Storm
Proved that men fight evermore.

God, help us all when brave men say,
"Not today. Let"s just wait and see."
For, tyrants come in so many ways
And I"ve heard of complacency.

When integrity falls in the dust by the way,
When conviction fails to command,
When there"s no one to bugle or carry the flag,
What will become of our land?

So, here"s to the heroes and heroines true!
Here"s to the brave and the free!
With my hand on my chest as the flag passes by,
I remember what you did for me!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 PM on 05/16/2008

It's simple. We're broke. We can't afford five more years.
We also can't afford 4 more years of a Republican presidency.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 05/16/2008

Wow! You are all still so confused over his 100 year comment!

He was referring to a military presence, similar to the scale of the troop presence in South Korea. As for the war, he believes that it can be won in five years.

Got it Huffpo?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 05/16/2008

Iraq is no Korea, Japan or Germany....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 05/16/2008

And how did you interpret his singing of:
Bomb, Bomb, Bomb.. Bomb, Bomb Iran.
That was a good one too, huh?
Those Beach Boys don't have anything on Old Man McCain.
Except maybe between the ears.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 PM on 05/16/2008

Upstater,

We haven't got a single cent left from the last 7 years.... you still want to be in there for 100? You're so sickening.

May deer season find you wandering the woods in brown Carharts and antlers on your head.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 05/16/2008

Exactly, but people will still believe whatever they want to believe.

Some of these knuckleheads think that Barack Obama will bring the troops home.

Let's get things straight here, folks:
- Barack Obama refused to say he'll bring troops home by 2013.
- John McCain said a troop presence MAY be around for 100 years, similar to Germany, South Korea, Japan, and other foreign countries.

So, want the troops home? John McCain has a plan. Barack Obama has no plan, and won't even commit to bringing troops home by the time John McCain wants to bring them home.

And one more thing. THE DEMOCRATS LOVE WAR, TOO!!!

1812, Indians, Mexico, 1/2 of the civil war, Bolivia, Mexico 2, Haiti, WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Cold War, Bosnia, Kosovo, Desert Fox...

GET IT?!

And no, I'm not a John McCain supporter (Ron Paul 2008!). I just think that the truth should prevail, not misconceived perceptions you are brainwashed into believing because you are too damn lazy to even try and think of an opposing viewpoint.

I still love the idea that for the past 8 years the media has hailed McCain as a "maverick" for being a Republican that's critical of the Bush administration, yet all of a sudden he'll be Bush's third term.

There's not enough salt for me to eat what the media is feeding us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 05/16/2008

UpstateNYer, he's flip flopping again. Got it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 05/16/2008

With John McCain as Skipper in Chief, it will be smooth sailing through troubled waters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 05/16/2008

You just can't believe a word out of McCain's mouth. He's out to butcher his competition even while his wife says on network TV that he won't stoop to those tactics. But he probably is forgetful due to his advancing years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 AM on 05/16/2008

Why do Republican Presidents promise to solve problems by the next presidents term? George Bush will balance the budget by 2012, and McCain will have most of our troops out of Iraq by 2012. Oh thats right, if it does not work out they can blame the next president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 AM on 05/16/2008

It is written that old men send young men to war-or words to that effect. I"d prefer to say older not old. McCain"s a great American hero but he"s terribly wrong on the prosecution of the war. We have yet to hear satisfactory justification for going in and staying as long as we have. In "Come Fly With Me" Frank Sinatra sings a bright, happy song which we still hear. Here with changes:

COME FLY WITH ME (ON FLIGHT 2013)
Come fly with me, come fly lets fly away
If you can use, some stark bloody views
There"s a war in disarray
Come fly with me, we"ll fly we"ll fly away

Come fly with me, let"s fly down to Bagdad
In camel land, there"s an IED
And it"s aimed at your Humvee
Come fly with me, let"s fly let"s fly away.

Once I get you over there where the air is rarified
We"ll just glide, starry eyed
Once I get you signed up, I"ll be holding you so near
You may hear angels cheer, because we"re together

Weather wise it"s such a lovely day
You just say the words, and we"ll beat the birds
Down to old Bagdad
It"s perfect for a deadly roadside bomb-they say
Come fly with me, we"ll fly, we"ll fly away

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 AM on 05/16/2008

Five years now instead of one hundred -- how convenient. Didn't McCain say he would serve only one term. By the end of a McCain first term if things are still going poorly he can deflect and say I told you five years, and then the next buffoon (if not McCain and if a warmonger) can say, one more year folks and all will be well. Trust me. Do we really want to trust this guy?

Strike that -- hell no!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 05/16/2008
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