Bush fails to win Saudi help on gas prices

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TERENCE HUNT | May 16, 2008 09:10 PM EST | AP

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President Bush sits with Saudi King Abdullah at the King's Al Janadriyah Ranch in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, Friday, May 16, 2008. (AP Photo/Susan Walsh)

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia — President Bush failed to win the help he sought from Saudi Arabia to relieve skyrocketing American gas prices Friday, a setback for the former Texas oilman who took office predicting he would jawbone oil-producing nations to help the U.S.

Bush got a red-carpet welcome to this desert kingdom, home to the world's largest oil reserves, and promised to ask King Abdullah to increase production to reduce pressure on prices, which soared past $127 for the first time Friday. But Saudi officials said they already were meeting the needs of their customers worldwide and there was no need to pump more.

Their answer recalled Bush's trip to Saudi Arabia in January when he urged an increase in production but was rebuffed.

Saudi oil minister Ali al-Naimi said the kingdom decided on May 10 to increase production by 300,000 barrels a day to help meet U.S. needs after Venezuela and Mexico cut back deliveries.

"Supply and demand are in balance today," al-Naimi told a news conference, bristling at criticism from the U.S. Congress. "How much does Saudi Arabia need to do to satisfy people who are questioning our oil practices and policies?"

Early this week, Senate Democrats introduced a resolution to block $1.4 billion in arms sales to Saudi Arabia unless Riyadh agreed to increase its oil production by 1 million barrels per day.

Saudi Foreign Minister Saud al-Faisal said the discussion with Bush about oil was friendly. "He didn't punch any tables or shout at anybody," the minister said. "I think he was satisfied."

That couldn't be said for at least one of the candidates hoping to succeed Bush in January. Said Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton: "I think it's very important that we do something more dramatic than going to have tea with the Saudis."

National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley said consumers would not see dramatic price reductions. Oil experts agreed.

Bernard Picchi, an energy analyst at Wall Street Access, an independent research firm, called the 300,000 barrel Saudi production increase "a token amount."

It would be different, he said, if Saudi Arabia boosted production by 1 million or 1.5 million barrels a day. The announced increase will have Saudi Arabia pumping 9.45 million barrels a day by June, Saudi officials said. That's about 2 million barrels below its capacity. Analysts also discounted the impact of the U.S. Energy Department's announcement that it would cancel shipments into the Strategic Petroleum Reserve for six months beginning July 1.

"It's ridiculous because I don't think this is going to bring the price down," said Phil Flynn, analyst at Alaron Trading Corp., of the Energy Department's move.

Midway through a five-day Mideast trip that began in Israel and ends in Egypt, Bush spent the day with Abdullah at his weekend retreat outside the capital. It is known as a horse farm since the king maintains 150 Arabian stallions there. The farm also produces thousands of goats and sheep, bred for the king's royal banquets.

The sagging U.S. economy and painful gasoline prices are the top concerns of Americans in the heart of a heated presidential campaign. The run-up in oil prices has been alarming.

Futures prices of crude on the New York Mercantile Exchange have more than doubled in the past year, from $62.46 a barrel in the first week of May, 2007. Prices reached $100 a barrel for the first time in February and continued rising. They closed at $126.29 Friday.

On Jan. 26, 2000, during a presidential debate, Bush opposed taking oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve and instead said then-President Clinton should "jawbone" oil producing nations. That week crude oil prices were $28 a barrel.

Hadley said the Saudis briefed Bush on plans to increase their production capacity. They also argued that even an increase would be unlikely to bring down the soaring prices, which they said were driven more by uncertainty in the market, lack of refining capacity for the type of oil readily available and other complicated dynamics.

Economists say prices are being driven up by increased demand, not slow production. China and India are stretching supplies as they use ever increasing amounts of energy.

Hadley suggested the White House was satisfied with _ or at least accepted _ the Saudi response. However, he said the Bush administration will see if the explanation "conforms to what our experts say."

Hadley said Bush and the king also focused on Iran and concern about recent violence in Lebanon, where Hezbollah overran Beirut neighborhoods last week in protest of measures by the U.S.-backed government. The display of military power by the Shiite militant group, which the U.S. considers a terrorist organization, resulted in the worst internal fighting since the end of Lebanon's 1975-90 civil war.

Sunni-dominated Saudi Arabia _ eager to stop any advance of regional power by Shiite-dominated Iran _ joins the West in supporting Lebanon's government. Hadley said Bush and Abdullah shared a concern that the recent events would "embolden Iran." The U.S. and Saudi Arabia, he said, "are of one mind in condemning what Hezbollah did."

On Thursday, Hezbollah and the Lebanese government reached a deal to end the violence after Lebanon's Cabinet reversed measures aimed at the militants.

Bush's visit was billed as a celebration of 75 years of U.S.-Saudi relations, though they have been frayed by Arab perceptions that Washington favors Israel too much in the dispute with the Palestinians, the Iraq war and the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. The two countries used the occasion of Bush's visit to sign new agreements.

Among them was an agreement for the U.S. to assist the kingdom in developing civilian nuclear power. Another involves U.S. promises to help protect any Saudi nuclear infrastructure with training, the exchange of experts "and other support services as needed." Hadley said it would not involve U.S. troops.

Saudi Foreign Minister Saud al-Faisal, at the news conference with the oil minister, said he shared Bush's hope for a Mideast peace agreement by next January but sharply criticized Israel for the "humanistic suffering weighed upon the West Bank and Gaza Strip population" of Palestinians. He said Israel's "continued policy of expanding settlements on Palestinian territories" undermines the peace process.

 
 

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when the oil is gone they can pave the whole middle East over with solar panels and they can keep selling us energy that way...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 PM on 05/17/2008

You mean Bush did not tell them that we may have to introduce our secret weapon "switch grass."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 PM on 05/17/2008

Send them a bill for all of our naval forces that are making it
possible for them to ship their oil.

All nations benefit from our (US Navy) actions. Since we pay the same
price for oil as everyone else; isn't it time we charged for the 'police' work?

How long would the shipping lanes remain open if we pulled back our Navy?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 05/17/2008

How long would the Sauds remain in power?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 05/17/2008

The conversation probably went like this: Bush: "Now Shreik Abdollar, I'm gonna ask a question and you say 'no'. Got it"? Sheik Abdullah; "Okey dokey." Bush; "Will you raise oil production?" Sheik Abdullah; "No."
Bush; "Thanks King."
Sheik Abdullah; "What are kings for?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 PM on 05/17/2008

Bush said today in Egypt that the only solution to America's energy crisis is domestic oil exploration. Yeah right. More profits for Bush donors and cronies at the expense of the environment.

The only solution to America's energy crisis is development of renewable alternatives to oil, more efficient cars in the interim, and more energy efficient public transportation. Butt the oil industry that Bush-Cheney-McClain-Clinton represent won't have any of that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 05/17/2008

Oil is a finite resource. We other run out now or reserve the chaos for the next generation. But Bush and his Me-First allies will suck it all up and screw the planet and people who live here. It's how they're made, how they think and what they intend to do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 05/17/2008

Kevin Phillips writes in the introduction to his new book "Bad Money"

"The U.S. dollar, which was partly supported by gold until 1971, in 1974 became partly tied to oil. In return for a major oil price increase, Saudi Arabia and the Persian Gulf oil states unofficially agreed first to require that oil be paid for in dollars, and second to recycle much of the payment received back to the United States through investment in treasury debt."

"This loose deal began to come undone in 2002 and 2003 as the United States maneuvered to invade and then did attack and occupy Iraq, at least in part to control Iraqi oil. The annoyed Saudis began cutting the amount of petroleum they shipped to the United States in 2002, and continued to do so after the United States took over in Baghdad. Between 2002 and 2004, the members of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) reduced the percentage of their foreign-currency reserves kept in dollars from 75 percent to 61.5 percent. In the meantime, the OPEC nations abandoned their earlier $22- $28-a-barrel price range for oil and by 2006 let an unfettered price climb over $70."

And now Bush goes to his good family friends of over three generations and his good friends turn down his requrest.

Thanks, GW!!

I highly recommend Phillips' book.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 05/17/2008

Even the Saudis know that George W. Bush is a puppet president.

It's been pretty obvious that the old guard is busy trying to deal with limiting the congressional carnage that the Republican brand is sure to experience come November, and deservedly so.

The folks that put the words in his ear are all but gone. Just think about how stupid and desperate his actions were in Israel. If the power boys that got him elected were still on the case - this would have never happened.

The Saudis use a similar expression about Dub'ya. They mock him as Abdullah's pet dog. Sad but true - while the UK Press inked Blair as Bush's poodle - hard line Saudi's are comforted by the fact that they are polite to the son of one of their business partners and the political shill of many of their other partners.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 05/17/2008

Bush is just going through the motions...trying to appear like he cares about the average American's plight. hell, he was probably picking up real estate brochures in the kingdom since that's probably one of the only places that will have him post-2008.

Frankly though, everything bush is pushing is bush..it. He keeps crying about needing more refineries, when the refinery industry isn't truly willing to build any more since they argue it takes 15-20 years to get their initial investment out of a refinery and they just dont think we're going to be using their product that much in 15-20 years.

I say we put a rush on that, and quit using their product in the next 5-10. The issue of energy independence is this generation's "Moon Launch"...the only question is which person running for bush's job would be the best to lead this generation?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 05/17/2008

Bush has been going through the motions the past 7 years, and incidentally, he has been putting us through the motions as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 PM on 05/17/2008

This guy couldn't find his ass with both hands. If failure was a domestic product, he would singlehandedly end the recession.

If we had a nickel for everything he's screwed up, we'd have a shitload of nickels. To paraphrase Trey Parker.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 05/17/2008

Wow! Bush fails? Really? That's a stunner!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 05/17/2008

Yeah, and an American president going begging to the Saudi king is a great picture.

Heaven protect us from the Bushes and the Clintons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 PM on 05/17/2008

What really slays me about this war "over oil", is that for what we've spent, we could have purchased EVERYONE in this country a hybrid to drive. And we wouldn't be begging the Saudi's for ANYTHING.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 05/17/2008

Can you say PEAK OIL? Maybe the Saudis can't up their production because they are PRODUCING as much as is possible. There is a point in time where oil wells go into depletion just as the North Sea fields and Cantarell did recently. If one pushes production too hard, you end up getting less out of the field over the long term. Maybe the Saudis want to save some of the oil for themselves?? What an IDEA!

The Saudi oil fields are very mature and Ghawar may be about ready to go into lowered production. It is over 40 years old. As to hybrids that is just a band aid to the long term problem. What we need is a whole restructuring of our transportation and lifestyle here in the USA. We live on a finite planet with FINITE resources, and contrary to what Dick Cheney says, the American way of life IS negotiable...like it or not we will have to CHANGE to a way of life that uses less energy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 PM on 05/17/2008

For the amount of money we've spent on this war, we could have re-tooled our entire American Auto industry, created a viable set of alternative energies and discovered a cure for cancer, but that would require something we dont currently have in Washington....LEADERS!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 05/17/2008

God, you sound like me! When will we really get it, that's it's not about our good, it's about theirs. And to these masters of the universe, it isn't enough to have more than everyone else; everyone else must also have nothing! That's what domination is all about.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 05/17/2008

All I can say is that's it's a sad sad day when the prez of the u.s.a. has to stoop to going to a foreign country to beg for a little gas. Bush the beggar has turned us into a nation of beggars who depend upon people and nations who care nothing about America and that's the reality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 PM on 05/17/2008

what's worse, is that bush's people MUST have thought they'd get something. I can't believe they'd have made this trip just to look bad for trying.

and according to the article, the saudis decided a week ago that 300k was going to be it.

just an example of how our saudi "friends" care more for the almighty buck and less for our friendship. I saw screw them. we get a president who believes in alternative energy, we do NOT sell them any weapons packages and once we leave iraq and the saudis to the new shia superpower.

To hell with the whole region! It's just not worth caring about any longer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 05/17/2008

Paybacks are a mofo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 05/17/2008

Would that me synonymous with saying the chickens are coming home to roost?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 PM on 05/17/2008

I think the one thing that everyone here is overlooking is that whatever the Deciderer gets his undeveloped prehensile thumbs on fails miserably.

This can only mean totally green fuels beginning 2009.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 05/17/2008

Didn't Bush promise us that he could "jawbone" the Saudis into giving us a good deal?

Looks like it doesn't work when you're using the jawbone of an ass.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 PM on 05/17/2008

Bush jawboned them into accepting our "promises to help protect any Saudi nuclear infrastructure with training." Wow, what a deal! If Bush was there any longer, he would have been shouting "Down with Israel!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 05/17/2008

I thought "jawbone" was a noun instead of a verb.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 PM on 05/17/2008

These days so many words and their uses are non-standard language. So let's make it a verb for this blog, such as 'to jawbone'. Hey, if Goggle can be a verb, anything can be a verb.?? Or maybe you like Bush's phrase when asked if he Goggle (used by the interviewer as a verb), the Bush response was classic, "Yes, I go to 'The Goggle' every now and then". LOL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 05/17/2008

Bush, his entire family and outlying cronies are all in bed with the rulers of Saudi Arabia. But lovers grow weary. Guess Bandar and Abdullah tired of them now or maybe they are beginning to wake up and smell the aroma of change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 05/17/2008

The appeasers are those occupying the W/H and congress who kiss the a** of Israel"s supporters everyday for the last 60 years They have a strangle hold on the unethical immoral congress, that includes the Christian religious kooks of Goober Nation. Saudi Arabia is as corrupt as they come, their rulers are kept in power thanks to the US / CIA massive help; they're the West's catamites. What you're witnessing today is a simple sexual dispute between the molester and his catamite.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 PM on 05/17/2008

Imagine the outrage if Obama was in Saudi doing this? The right-wing media would go crazy. They would be asking, "What did Obama promise them for the extra oil production.?" Their foolishness would reach a level never seen before.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 05/17/2008

"I kiss both of their cheeks and i hold their hand, I dance with their sword and I bow to the sheik and all I got was this lousy t-shirt!!!!"
~T-shirt seen on AirForce One~

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 PM on 05/17/2008

It's pretty pathetic to see the supposed most powerful man on the planet, the leader of our country, beg for more oil from our crude overlords.

How far we have fallen in just 7 years. I'd like to see anyone from that 28% who support this man to explain themselves, and to explain to the rest of the country what good has Bush done exactly in the past 7 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 PM on 05/17/2008

The 28% who support this stupid as a stump idiot, liar and war criminal are the ones who are raking in the big bucks from his policies, the oil companies, the Halliburtons, KBR, Blackwater, drug companies. All the people Bush/Cheney are working for while everyone else in America is getting screwed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 05/17/2008

If anyone were stupid enough to engage The United States of America in a conventional war, their GPS coordinates would be plugged into a computer and in a few short minutes they would be vaporized.

If coordinates were hard to come by, a nuclear "bunker buster" would be less discriminating.

Believe me, World War III is a wonderful idea to the madmen who are slinking through the halls of this Government, and if you haven't been to http://thomas.loc.gov yet, go look-up "The National Service Act of 2007." They want You ... Dad. And You ... Mom. Oh yes, a few strokes of a pen are all they need.

But this is not the way of thinking that put the Arabian people of being "Kings of Kings" on this earth for thousands of years (a pre-eminence that the Saudis have twice proved against King George the Lesser).

The Arabs understand both power and prudence. Like the Chinese martial-arts masters, they know how to use an enemy's strength against himself, and they know the value of Time.

For all the United States' extraordinary conventional military power, the nation is vulnerable even to the point of ruin. It has been incredibly foolish especially for the last fifty years. And for this, we of the world (both inside and outside the US) can be grateful: the World War III that these evildoers so earnestly desire ... might be avoided, without a single shot having been fired in anger.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 PM on 05/17/2008

The Arabs are like everyone else in the world since crazy George began his ruinous reign. They don't know what the hell he might do at any given moment. I hope this national nightmare ends soon and we put in a Democrat instead of crown prince John McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 PM on 05/17/2008

Correction:

"...Democrat instead of CLOWN prince John McCain."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:13 PM on 05/17/2