Chris Bowers: Obama Camp 'Decapitated' Influential Progressive Group

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Open Left   |  Chris Bowers   |   May 17, 2008 01:59 PM


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Progressive Media USA was a more important organization to the progressive movement than many people know. For one thing, it employed a large number of progressive movement types with an online focus. Also, even though it was accomplished behind the scenes, it is responsible for a strikingly large number of the anti-McCain stories to appear in the national press over the past six months. Further, it was not meant to just operate during the campaign, but also to fight media pushback against a new Democratic administration in 2009 and beyond.

Basically, it was a very netroots friendly organization doing a lot of very positive anti-McCain work, and was also a potentially important allay of a new Democratic administration. However, at the behest of the Obama campaign senior leadership, it has now been decapitated and decommissioned by Barack Obama's uber-wealthy donors.

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I think Chris Bowers did a masterful job of explaining the recent Obama moves that had confused and concerned me. Now it appears that what the Obama campaign is trying to do is to get big money out of the PACs and 527s and allow more individual small contributors a chance to be heard.

If you read the entire article and follow his links on net neutrality you learn more about the differences between Obama and Clinton. Clinton's policy could have been (and may have been) written by the telecommunications industry for their benefit.

When you are done, read their position papers, on their respective websites, and you will find hers filled with vague meaningless double talk and his with nuts and bolts information. And they claim he is all suit and no substance!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 PM on 05/18/2008

The full length article is made MUCH clearer by the comments that follow it, if you happen not to be great at the ins and outs of finance reform, like me.I excerpted a comment from a poster there that sums up my worries:

"by donating to a third party, you grow another power center, instead of investing in a single one, and one that isn't responsible to you. ('You' as part of the left, that is.) One that you hope will take an oppositional posture that pulls the other powers center leftward.

Investing into the Obama machine is great, but limited. If we as outsiders and small donors want power, we can't allow ourselves to be completely coopted. There will come a time--I'm thinking in late February, 2009--when the Obama administration does something that many of us find pretty disappointing. At that point, we can either use the power we've built to try to convince the administration to do the right thing, or we can just weep and gnash and send angry emails asking for our contributions back."
(Thx to poster Joel)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 PM on 05/18/2008

If you read the entire article, you learn that that is NOT what he is doing. He is trying to get the big dollar donors to stop supporting 527s. Moveon.org, supported almost entirely by small donors is doing just fine. The organization mentioned by name in Chris Bowers article was supported strictly by large dollar donors, NOT small donors and outsiders like us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 05/18/2008

certain "large donors", though, are made up of many small donors, such as unions, and say univeral health care collaborators.I like to see the many voices represented for a candidate, we are not just one mind , represented from the top down.And I like to know he is under the pressure of their scrutiny. This way their positons are silenced.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:21 PM on 05/18/2008

Thanks for clarifying

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 05/18/2008

Please read the entire article, Obama is NOT pressuring unions or any similar type of organization, only the ones financed by large donors, those are the only people who are being asked to refrain from supporting PACs and 527. Speaking of one organization, Chris Bowers writes:
"the only reason the Obama campaign was able to decapitate it was because its survival was entirely dependant upon buy-in from a few hundred extremely wealthy multi-millionaires. Other elements of the progressive movement that are not dependent upon large donations are doing just fine."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 05/18/2008

Every one wants the power....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 AM on 05/18/2008

The most important parts of the article IMO are the links to two stories - one that states that Obama is a supporter of net neutrality and reducing corporate control over the Internet, and that Hillary's tendencies are just the opposite. More evidence that Hillary is a corporatist in populist clothing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 AM on 05/18/2008

The article linked to in this blog and the subsequent comments on that site make me laugh so hard. The blogospherians are pulling their hair out and now making conspiracy theories about Barack Obama trying to strangle them to death. lmao. All this is about is a play to reign in the 527s and box McCain into a corner. It can also be used as a rationale for not taking public financing. I see it as a good play for the Obama camp. Bloggers should be applauding this, but instead they are grabbing pitchforks, thinking they should have more "pull" with the Obama than the 1.5 million donors to his campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 AM on 05/18/2008

Yes ,but i can't forget Obama calling ads run by unions "special interest groups', a common accusation of the Repugs. As if a union , working for decent wages and working conditions,is the same as an oil company ( an entity devoted soley to the profit of a few).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 PM on 05/18/2008

this is a new time.... and we are doing things in "new ways".

and that includes even two years ago.

we are not slaves to any paradigm that we (obama "08) didn't create for ourselves. and even it that doesn't work... we toss it.

for the most part this is a story about power... and protecting it.... and lashing out when its challenged.

we are "turning the page"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 PM on 05/17/2008

I would hope that Obama modifies this position. The MSM will, under orders, fall in behind McCain and assist every attack. This message to consolidate is wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 PM on 05/17/2008

It makes sense because Obama doesn't want 3rd parties doing controversial ads and then having to be put in the position of being caught in the middle. We saw a lot of this in 2004 and we'll see more this year. Obama wants one message, and if an ad represent him (or his interests) he wants to make sure he agrees with the tone of the ad. It also demonstrates that Obama and his campaign are serious about trying to stay above the fray and keeping things clean and positive. Can you imagine craggly old McCain doing the same?? Obama's key to success this year is staying on message, and not being distracted from the real issues. I'm glad to see he's trying to reign in the 527 work, because often these groups are not helpful to true political dialogue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 05/17/2008

Barak Obama asked that anyone supporting his campaign should contribute directly to his campaign.

That does not mean that people cannot support your organization or others...
if they choose to do so.

His campaign does not want his message to be confused with your message.

The organization he built is called Barack Obama and the organization you built is called Progressive Media USA which remain separate organizations.

You may appeal to your organization for donations directly. You may create some nifty web advertisement asking for donations.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 05/17/2008

Obama means it when he says he embodies new politics. Chris Bowers doesn't get it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 05/17/2008


From Politico:
"Brock is now seen in political circles as closer to Sen. Hillary Clinton's campaign than to Sen. Barack Obama's, but Brock said he has already met with former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, a close Obama ally.

"This is a unity play," Brock said. '

TPM has a clear, informative post about the demise of Progressive Media USA. And backers seem to be both Clinton and Obama supporters. Just correcting my errors....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 05/17/2008

Guess I'm being slow today. Just remembered that some of the people attached to this 527 were Clinton supporters (Brock?). Right? I may be wrong. So I guess that would explain the whole Obama attack thing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 PM on 05/17/2008

YOU ARE CORRECT

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 05/17/2008

Chris Bowers writes: "Progressive Media USA was ... a potentially important allay of a new Democratic administration."
WAS... ? POTENTIALY... ? Great! Prgressive Media USA can speak for themselves, and without your help. Obama's campaign, whose INDEPENDENCE is critical in maintaining its "kenetic" support for progressive change. His populist campaign is bolstered by grass roots actvism. 527 groups are free to do what they do, but can screw up a campaign; inentionally or not. Its a no brainer.
Obama 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 PM on 05/17/2008

Obama is doing this to project his image of a new politics, letting the 527's run free would hurt him on that front. Yes he loses that ability to strike, but he has his own huge war chest with which to fight back, and as we saw this week, he doesn't need much help. No he wants to project himself as the change cantidate, and this is a step towards that

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 05/17/2008

So why is Bowers attacking this move? Because he thinks it's risky? Because he is anti-Obama? Because he is insulted that Obama thinks DailyKos is boring? I still don't get the rationale behind his article. Or is it just about headlines?

whatever. You have to give Obama credit for effective tactics and maintaining his principles.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:57 PM on 05/17/2008

DailyKos IS boring...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 05/18/2008

I think because he and the other jerks on the townhouse list want some of the money

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 05/17/2008

To support 527s - even the "good ones" (which is of course ALWAYS a matter of perspective) is to give them legitimacy.

To give 527s legitimacy - even if only some of them - is to send out a clarion call to OTHER 527s, as well as their supporters/donors, that basically says,

"If Obama's doing it, then it's perfectly fine and fair for us to do it too."

He did not kneecap this particular 527 because he hates them. He created an environment where should 527s (such as the one that tanked Kerry) should attack, he has a higher ground upon which to fight them.

Obama has effectively set the bar here, people. Anything that the Republicans do now will be viewed in the public eye as blatantly below the bar, unfair, overly-vicious, "downright mean", etcetera.

If you want a way to help Obama, find another. Take out a loan. Borrow some money from your parents. But stop whining about how Obama "cut off your money" when he doesn't know you from Adam, yet you expect him to trust that you will send out messages that remain entirely true to what he represents? WHAT EGO.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:34 PM on 05/17/2008

I guess I'm being stupid. It all makes sense if Chris Bowers is supporting Sen. Clinton.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:04 PM on 05/17/2008

This was may understanding of Obama's reasoning. Which leads me back to what's Bowers talking about?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 05/17/2008

This article is proof that anyone can make statements and accuse anyone else of malfeascance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 05/17/2008

He didn't do anything. He is just trying to discourage the use of third party groups, so he can go after McCain who will rely on third party swiftboat groups since he has no money of his own. It is a smart move. These progressive groups get a ton of money from small donors, and that won't stop. He didn't decapitate anything. Quit whining and being alarmist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 05/17/2008

Personalpolitical,

I hope you're right because I want liberal third party groups to operate against McCain. No matter what Obama's high intentions are, McCain will still rely on the swifboaters and won't be called on it. Like Bush before him, McCain will publicly call for civility but will privately cheer them on. I'm fearful that Obama will be disarming unilaterally. I'm as big an Obama supporter as anyone (having given money, canvassed, etc. here in NC) but I don't have as much faith in the American people. Here in NC there are so many people that will believe anything the repubs say and although they don't always agree with McCain believe he is an honorable man. For example most in NC don't known about all of McCain's affairs or his crazy temper. Unless the y believe there is something wrong with McCain, they will vote for him. Moreover, if the repubs know dems are willing to hit back just as hard or low as necessary they will throw the lowest at us. Lastly, I don't believe in concentrated power, even in Obama's hand.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 05/18/2008

Obama relies on grassroots' donations, and he does not want his name to be linked to groups who are dependent on big donors. Moveon.org has Obama ads on, and I do not see neither Obama nor Moveon.org complaining, if anything they seems to understand each other Just fine. So i do not understand what Bower is talking about. This year Democrats should not be competing for big-donor money.

Sorry, It is grassroots time!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 05/17/2008

That is all fine and dandy until some huge money flows into a conservative think tank, and they try to swift boat Obama. Like it or not, and I don't like it, sometimes you need to take big money. Look at 2004, those 527s were a large reason Bush won (Kerry have the personality and likability of a slug didn't help). But those swiftboat ads were so damaging that they are used as a verb. Something similar in 2004 or even 2000 by the dems and we might not be where we are today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 PM on 05/17/2008

we can raise just as much if not more when and if the time comes. we shouldn't do anything out of fear when it comes to money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 PM on 05/17/2008

So that's why Bowers is angry? He didn't actually say that. It's true that I worry that Obama is underestimating the power of all those swiftboaters and should let Dem independent orgs do their thing, but you do have to admire that he's sticking to the principles he stated. or trying to. And there is still Moveon.org and some others.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 05/17/2008

"Given that Obama skipped the vote to defend MoveOn.org, referred to Daily Kos as boring, and that his campaign has generally been credited with the worst blogosphere outreach of any campaign this season, I won't be surprised if something like that happens again. Clearly, the Obama campaign does not appear keen to work with the online elements of the progressive movement that predated the campaign."

Given that Obama's campaign has relied heavily on online donations and organization for community outreach for his campaign, I don't understand the intense blogger hostility to Obama here. Who cares if he thinks DailyKos is boring (it often is boring reading endless political junkie posts). and what's with the "worst blogosphere outreach"??? (McCain apparently will be reaching out to Chris Bowers successfully with his new emphasis on 'blogoreach'.) Obama's whole message is not to be beholden to campaign big money donors--like an organized soft-money 527. And I believe he is trying to curtail the 527 ad campaigns in general. But Obama should be taking orders from the blogosphere because they supported him?

Just a weird article. I don't get it at all. I'm not a big blogosphere person. So I'd appreciate an insider's analysis of this argument.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 PM on 05/17/2008

This is exactly what I was thinking. Don't understand it at all and thought I was missing something. I hope someone from the blogosphere will explain because I thought the grassroots movement was one of Obama's strong point. Like you said, weird.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 PM on 05/17/2008

COME ON REPUBLICANS THIS STUFF JUST DOESN'T WORK NOT ANY MORE. WE CAN PLAY HARDBALL TOO..........................................................

AND WE ARE ALL THE WAY TO THE WHITEHOUSE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 PM on 05/17/2008

"....responsible for a strikingly large number of the anti-McCain stories to appear in the national press over the past six months."

Uhh..... In which nation's press did these stories appear? I have been reading the US newspapers, and I have not seen these.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 05/17/2008

I am a real progressive and not some liberal who likes a new name and I have never heard of this group. In fact, googling this group comes up with nothing! How influential could they be if Google doesn't even know who the hell they are?
Lets get real here, Progressive is not the new term for Liberal and there is a striking difference in the two groups politics. Please stop confusing the two groups that have similar concerns, but very different politics! Once and for all, a Progressive is not a Liberal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 05/17/2008

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/05/democratic_media_group_scales.html
Looks like they are a spin off from a founder of Move On.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 05/18/2008

Could you enlighten me on the differences?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 PM on 05/17/2008