Poll: Clinton leads in Ky.; Obama ahead in Ore.

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THE RACE: The presidential race for Democrats in Kentucky

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THE NUMBERS

Hillary Rodham Clinton, 51 percent

Barack Obama, 25 percent

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OF INTEREST:

In Kentucky, 43 percent of respondents had a favorable view of Obama and 43 percent had an unfavorable view, compared with 73 percent favorable and 15 percent unfavorable in Oregon. Forty-six percent of respondents in Kentucky said Clinton was more electable against McCain, compared with 39 percent for Obama.

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The Suffolk University poll was conducted by telephone Saturday and Sunday. It involved interviews with 600 likely Democratic voters and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.

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COMPLETE RESULTS: http://www.suffolk.edu

THE RACE: The presidential race for Democrats in Oregon

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THE NUMBERS

Obama, 45 percent

Clinton, 41 percent

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OF INTEREST:

Fifty-nine percent of respondents said they would vote for the Democratic nominee in the general election should their first choice lose, while 19 percent would vote for McCain and 13 percent are undecided.

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The Suffolk University poll was conducted by telephone Saturday and Sunday. It involved interviews with 600 likely Democratic voters and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.

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COMPLETE RESULTS: http://www.suffolk.edu

 
 

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I suggest the democratic party stop handling Hillary with kid gloves and tell het to stop the charade!
It is just plain stupid for Hillary to continue dividing the party.
No matter what the polls show - Obama will beat the pants off John McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 05/20/2008

nothing sexist in calling her a liar right? Hillary lied again... seems that ten million she claimed to have gotten in one day after PA was a fabrication - now that the FEC reports have been released, we see that she cannot be trusted to even be honest about her fundraising practices - remember Paul v Clinton in California.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/5/21/04953/3738/252/519453

this is why all the sexism dust up over the past few days - another distraction tactic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 AM on 05/21/2008

If this race is over for Hillary Clinton, why does Keith Olbermann, Howard Feinman, John Alter, Rachael Maddow, and Chris Matthews continue to bash her and give her free air time on MSNBC.
Could it be that the superdelegates believe, like Michelle Bernard of Independent Women's Voice, that "There is no way the superdelegates can take this away from Barack Obama." "There will be RACE RIOTS in the streets."
I thought the objective of the superdelegates was to insure a win in November, not give in to overt threats from one segment of the electorate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 AM on 05/20/2008

Her grey is showing. Get the dye bottle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 AM on 05/20/2008

For months now, us Obama folks have been trying to persuade Hillary supporters the error of their ways. They didn't listen. Too bad. I knew this was coming and tried to warn you! But, NO, you thought you knew what you were talking about. See, Obama is going to be President of the United States of America! :) :o :( (We told you so!)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 AM on 05/20/2008

Kentucky, I was born and raised in the little Tri-State area where Kentucky, West Virginia and Ohio sit side-by-side against the banks of the Ohio River. I was deeply embarrassed by West Virginia's performance last Tuesday, and you're poised tomorrow to wear that same mantle of shame.

Don't succumb to a narrow and fearful perspective, Kentucky! This country really is ready to elect an African-American to the presidency, and you don't need to fall back on the prevailing cynical attitudes where you live. Not only does Hillary Clinton no longer have a realistic chance for the nomination, but Barack Obama is a more than capable nominee who will defeat John McCain on November 4th.

"I'm asking you to believe. Not just in my ability to change Washington ... I'm asking you to believe in yours." -- Barack Obama

It's ok to believe, Kentucky. America is more hopeful than you know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 PM on 05/19/2008

You got it exactly right, man. I was born and raised in the Western KY tri-state area (MO, KY, IL) and a nicer bunch of racists you never met. I honestly mean that, too. They're not inherently stupid or mean. It's like they have some sort of genetic racism. They just don't know any other way to be. Aside from that, they are honest, hard working people. I don't understand how they can be so decent yet so disgusting at the same time.

I'll be voting for Obama today, but I know that it's useless in this state.

And, frankly Hillary doesn't have a hope in hell of taking this state in the general election. When it gets right down to it, these people will never vote to put a woman in the White House, either. They'll vote for whoever their preachers tell them to vote for.

I truly hope that once Obama is elected that he won't abandon a state like this. Maybe he can show these people that it doesn't matter if you're black or white as long as you're honorable and really working to better this country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 AM on 05/20/2008

Oh so unless they vote for your candidate, you will be ashamed of them? This is the very reason why they won't vote for your candidate -- this elitist patronizing and looking down on them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 PM on 05/19/2008

I think there was a reason why Obama did not go into those states to campaign. I believe he was advised strongly not to. I leave you with that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 AM on 05/20/2008

A friend of mine who lives in WV told me she saw a man in a pick up dragging a small plastic doll...a black one, by the neck. Now she did not know for sure what that meant but we can guess.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 AM on 05/20/2008

No point wasting money and time in a state that will go Red no matter what. Better off spending that time in states you can swing blue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 AM on 05/20/2008

no... you should be ashamed of people who so openly and proudly tout their racist attitudes...

They would rather against their interests than vote for a black man... they have said it out of their own mouths...

If Obama said, "I am going to start giving tax breaks to all coal miners... a house... gov stipend for food and cars.... and all people of WV, KY get $1000 checks deposited into their bank accounts every month...."

and McCain said, "I could care less about the people of WV and KY... they aren't rich so they don't suit me... I will continue to ship their jobs out, and I will do nothing about you losing your home for lack of a job...."

These people would still vote McCain and hope he was bluffing before casting a vote for a black man....

ITS SAD!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 AM on 05/20/2008

From the Karl Rove playbook, Ch. 14, Rhetorical devices: "Misrepresent a person's position and present it in a form that people will reject."

I would certainly join with you in rejecting everything you have noted. It's just that they have nothing to do with anything I said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 05/19/2008

owned XD

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 AM on 05/20/2008

Hillary gets the low class uneducated voters and Obama gets the intelligent and smart voters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 PM on 05/19/2008

LOL...that is evidenced by the intelligent and high level rhetoric from the Obama supporters on this site! LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 AM on 05/20/2008

Typical Obama supporter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 PM on 05/19/2008

Yeah, I think we can all attest to the intelligence of Obama supporters by the many posts on this site. LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 05/19/2008

Sorry I repeated myself above...not that it doesn't bear repeating...but they took so long to post my original post that I said it again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 AM on 05/20/2008

If you are right, Obama will lose in Nov.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 PM on 05/19/2008

There are a lot of smart and intelligent voters to elect Obama. Just not very many in the south.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 05/19/2008

Even the reporters who have been providing breathless coverage of these late season primaries admit that the results of these primaries will have no effect on who will ultimately be declared the Democratic nominee. Yet the mainstream corporate media continues to devote an inordinate amount of coverage to every detail of the primaries they have ignored in previous elections. As is the case in West Virginia, the results of the Kentucky primary will little more than an update on the current status of racism in a given area.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 05/19/2008

Senator Byrd did endose him, however, that wonderful old guy. He is the example for people who are racists and what they can aspire to. He definitely voted his conscience. He has nothing to lose by doing so. He has served for many, many years. I remember when he spoke in support of Anita Hill. He was truly eloquent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 AM on 05/20/2008

I wonder how much that cost her crocked "FAT CAT DONORS", I was not surpized when we found out her "CROCKED FAT CAT DONOR'S " are trying to buy superdelegates. They need to investigate her donors I'm sure she has broke alot of law's.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 05/19/2008

It sounds like Hillary found her Kentucky voice....or should I say accent?
Anyone else notice she broke out that ol' southern accent yet again.
She did it in WV too, along with the other Southern states, I'm sure.
Appeal to those "southern strategy" Reagan Dixie....uh Democrats, eh Hill/Bill?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 05/19/2008

Being from Tennessee and having lived most of my life in the South of course I noticed it. I kept thinking about that Pace chili commercial where the ranchers go.. NEW YORK CITY!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 05/19/2008

This is old news already. There was a weekend thread on this. That is why we have Obama saying, "Lay off my wife."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:40 PM on 05/19/2008

Where is the surprise?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:32 PM on 05/19/2008

Rove is holding it, as the rumr goes, until October, before the election.

Ergo - the term "October Surprise." It's an old Republican trick -- hold the diritiest scandal against the opponenet 4 weeks before the election.

A trick that works most of the time.

It the GOP has the tape, they will NOT release it now to benefit Hillary.

They'll use it after Obama is the official candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:45 PM on 05/19/2008

If it was out there, the Clintons would have used it already.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 AM on 05/20/2008

I believe that good will triumph over evil. The Replicans will lose, as Hillary has.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 AM on 05/20/2008


LOL at the comments below-

I notice none of you Obama apologists claim, "Impossible! Michele Obama would never say those things."

You get the feeling she probably did say what the rumor claims - don't you?

Yeah - you do. And if the tape does surface in October ...

Good luck in November, Senator Barack 'Mission Accomplished' Obama.

(He should have never used Bush's line - it proved to be bad karma for Bush too)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 05/19/2008

It doesn't matter if they have a tape or not. The talk of a tape is enough. After the things Michelle has said, people will be only too ready to believe it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 05/19/2008

You mean something like the Demos do at the same time period by scaring old people they are going to lose their SS check?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:59 PM on 05/19/2008

What's especially disheartening about the exit polls in W.Va. and Tenn. showing race is a huge factor, is that the people being polled were not even embarrassed by their racism - not embarrassed enough to lie to pollsters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 05/19/2008

Duh, did you just wake up and realize that the USA was born in racism and it's still there to some degree. It's going to take a long time to transcend it. The absurdity of Axelrod/Obama and the pundits and media saying Obama has transcended race. He may have but most Americans (black and white) haven't.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 AM on 05/20/2008

Seems like they wear as a badge of honor, I hope I'm wrong in my assessment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 05/19/2008

OR too honest to lie. I suspect in many of the other polls no one wanted to admit to being racist.

As a minister for 20 years, there are two confessions I have yet to hear, racist and gossip.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 05/19/2008

The most recent PPP and SurveyUSA polls, released this morning show Obama's lead increasing in Oregon. PPP now has him up by 19 points and SurveyUSA has him leading by 13 points.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 PM on 05/19/2008

PPP has been horribly wrong in both directions on many contests. I give them zero on reliability.

And yes, I'm an Obama supporter. But they've been horribly wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 AM on 05/20/2008

This a blog, republics could be acting like Obama supporters, dont take the idiots into heart. Hillary will probably come up short is a fact. The republicans want to pit Women vs Blacks. Divide and Conqueror!!! Whites women should not feel angry if she does not win. African American understand how it feels to vote ever election cycle for someone that does not reflect you. WE UNDERSTAND. WE DIED FOR THIS RIGHT!!! Understand that is not BLACK vs WHITE WOMEN. YOU ALL SHOULD LET HILLARY KNOW THAT IF SHE IS VP THAT SHE SHOULD TAKE IT AND RUN IN 4 OR 8 MORE YEARS. IT WOULD BE A SURE BET!!!!!!! BUT IF YOU MAKE IT INTO BLACK VS WHITE WOMEN WE ALL WILL LOOSE OUT. DOESNT MATTER WHEN WE GET TO THE PROMISE LAND ITS IT HOW WE GET TO. Lets not fight, lets UNITE!!!! IM CALLING FOR IT NOW!!!!

OBAMA / CLINTON THEN CLINTON / WEBB

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 PM on 05/19/2008