Bill Kristol Gets Facts Wrong -- Again -- In NYT Column

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Think Progress   |   May 19, 2008 01:49 PM


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In his New York Times column today, Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol tried to find reasons for conservatives to be optimistic about 2008 elections, despite the claims of some Republicans that "the Republican brand is in the trash can." To support his argument, Kristol pointed to Sen. Barack Obama's (D-IL) 41-point loss in the West Virginia primary:

On Tuesday night, while the G.O.P. Congressional candidate was losing in a Mississippi district George Bush carried in 2004 by 25 points, Barack Obama was being trounced in the West Virginia Democratic primary -- by 41 points. I can't find a single recent instance of a candidate who ultimately became his party's nominee losing a primary by this kind of margin.

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Kristol doesn't get the facts wrong. He's a liar.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 05/21/2008

I suppose it would have been too easy (to bother doing) to even suspect that the large percentage might correspond precisely with the percentage of voters predicted to be so thoroughly racist and backwater that they wouldn't know anything about Obama even if they saw the truth because him being black negated any patriotism, intelligence, capability, or humanity that might be attributed to him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 PM on 05/20/2008

With ALL the RESPECTED Journalists and Media community who would be thrilled (possibly) to write a column for the NYT, why Kristol?

He has no credibility.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 05/20/2008

Because the NYT is determined to convince those who respect them that they have no credibility.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 PM on 05/20/2008

No matter what - that reflects upon the NYT.

Why they would choose that moron to begin with is inexplicable - but, then again the NYT ain't what it used to be.

I, personally, get my news elsewhere - HUFFPOST.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 05/20/2008

At the budget meeting the NYT must automatically set aside space for the corrections for every single column he writes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 05/20/2008

The NY Times does not hold that William Kristol be factually correct. They didn't hold Bill Safire or Thomas Friedman to those lofty standards.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 PM on 05/20/2008

Hasn't everyone learned that Kristol says what he wants when he wants and the truth really has nothing to play in his thoughts. He is a hack and the NYT's has become a rag by letting him spew his Republican and neocon agenda.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 05/20/2008

Surprise, surprise...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 AM on 05/20/2008

Bill Kristol isn't a tard. He just plays one in real life. He knows the trash he spews is wrong. It is simply a matter of numbers. There will be some people that get fooled with any lie, so just keep telling them is his philosophy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 AM on 05/20/2008

If you want to understand Bill Kristol you need to know who Curtis LeMay and Henry Kissinger are. Kristol believes you can say and do anything you want to the American people and the world as long as you don't get caught or lose the war your fighting. LeMay knew he would be prosecuted as a war criminal if the US lost WWII. Kissinger is widely regarded as a war criminal. There is plenty of information on both men and their deeds. Take the time to do some research.

Kissinger has been advising the Bush Admin for some time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 AM on 05/20/2008

At least Kissinger and LeMay had the cajones to actually commit their deeds themselves rather than just cheerleading from the sidelines.

Kristol is one of the biggest cowards in the whole cowardly neocon bunch.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 05/20/2008

Well done my good man!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 AM on 05/20/2008

Breaking News! Bill Kristol gets facts wrong!

In other news today:

Fire is hot

Water is wet

The Earth revolves around the Sun.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 AM on 05/20/2008

How does this man have a job? Ever 3 weeks there is an article about him and his latest blunder.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 05/20/2008

I think it involves toe tapping in the men's room.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 AM on 05/20/2008

NYT: Now You're Trash

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 AM on 05/20/2008

that should be their new acronym - you're right.

Besides, after Judy Miller, Jason Blair, and the like, it has lost MUCH of its credibility.

It has become tainted, no longer the grey lady.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:51 PM on 05/20/2008

a few notes on my news consumption habits -- which are ravenous:

abc news since the "Debate" - permanently gone to black

nytimes since Kristol - cancelled my subscription after two columns.

anyone else want to prove their pandering irrelevancy ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 AM on 05/20/2008

Bill Kristol = Soft Spoken, Bigoted Warmonger.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 AM on 05/20/2008

ny slimes......liars all...
keith blabberman......partisan disgusting hack
chrissy i love hussein matthews.........total jerk...

there sequoiabrson....back at ya

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 AM on 05/20/2008

I get it "rjean" is a Limbaugh TROLL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 AM on 05/20/2008

huh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 05/20/2008

okay so it's not just me that didn't get that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 AM on 05/20/2008

Guess Mr. Kristol also couldn't find these tidbits of information either:

Kansas 74 - 26 (Obama) by 48 pts.
Alaska 74 - 25 (Obama) by 49 pts.
Idaho 80 - 17 (Obama) by 63 pts.
Washington D.C. 75 - 24 (Obama) by 51pts.
Hawaii 76 - 24 (Obama) by 52 pts.

What a joke the Grand Old Party is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 AM on 05/20/2008

Keep in mind that early on he was beating other candidates by even larger margins, with the average "other candidate" getting 1%-2% of the vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 AM on 05/20/2008

West Virginia isn't exactly West Israel. It's Waste Virginia.

Pun aside, it is a beautiful land fallen victim to an apathetic leadership.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:26 AM on 05/20/2008

'Lift up thine eyes and say........Where in Hell did the Hills and Mountains Go?!!'

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 AM on 05/20/2008

Bill Kristol is an ignorant leering sonofabitch.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 AM on 05/20/2008

Dear Mr. Sulzberger:

Do you think "columnists" such as Kristol Neocon may have something to do with the paper you inherited losing circulation, advertising revenue and any modicum of respect it may once have had?

Just wondering.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 AM on 05/20/2008

I hope their reasoning was purely cynical in that they were trying to keep Murdoch from hiring him and making the WSJ a neocon behemoth.

Still, Faustian deals are by nature jagged-edged.

(et vive le candidat noir)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 AM on 05/20/2008

West Virginia is 75% democrat maybe 80%, and McCain will carry West Virginia by at least 25% points in the general election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 AM on 05/20/2008

McCain couldn't carry West Verginee if it had a handle!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 AM on 05/20/2008

LOL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 AM on 05/20/2008

Thats nothing unusal, Utah is about 70% mormon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:10 AM on 05/20/2008

A rightwinger who lies like a rug?Why I ve never heard of such a thing!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 AM on 05/20/2008

David Brooks and William Kristol must suffer from dementia they are so delusional.

What a waste of journalistic space.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 AM on 05/20/2008

Why is it news when he gets something wrong? Wouldn't it be bigger news if he actually got something right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 AM on 05/20/2008

I think your right, Kristol screwed up big time. Of course Utah was very much like West Virginia. McCain had to run against a Mormmon in the Mormon State. Obama had to run in West Virginia aginst Hillary in a white middle working class state. fortunately for McCain he will get of all Mormons in the GE. Unfortunately for Obama, he will not get many working class voters aside from the corrupt union members.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 AM on 05/20/2008
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