CONFIRMED: U.S. Hid Detainees From The Red Cross

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McClatchy Newspapers   |  Warren P. Strobel   |   June 17, 2008 09:08 PM


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The U.S. military hid the locations of suspected terrorist detainees and concealed harsh treatment to avoid the scrutiny of the International Committee of the Red Cross, according to documents that a Senate committee released Tuesday.

"We may need to curb the harsher operations while ICRC is around. It is better not to expose them to any controversial techniques," Lt. Col. Diane Beaver, a military lawyer who's since retired, said during an October 2002 meeting at the Guantanamo Bay prison to discuss employing interrogation techniques that some have equated with torture. Her comments were recorded in minutes of the meeting that were made public Tuesday. At that same meeting, Beaver also appeared to confirm that U.S. officials at another detention facility -- Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan -- were using sleep deprivation to "break" detainees well before then-Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld approved that technique. "True, but officially it is not happening," she is quoted as having said.

A third person at the meeting, Jonathan Fredman, the chief counsel for the CIA's Counterterrorism Center, disclosed that detainees were moved routinely to avoid the scrutiny of the ICRC, which keeps tabs on prisoners in conflicts around the world.

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- wordvarc See Profile I'm a Fan of wordvarc permalink

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Beyond w, Cheney, John Yoo, Gonzales, and Rumsfeld, this is our shared shame, our capitulation to bogus rovian scare tactics.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 PM on 06/18/2008
- helonias See Profile I'm a Fan of helonias permalink

I wonder which higher power told George to do these things

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 PM on 06/18/2008
- mrqapla See Profile I'm a Fan of mrqapla permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 PM on 06/18/2008
- OlongapoEd See Profile I'm a Fan of OlongapoEd permalink

All proper Christian patriots know, of course, that the proper policy is "Kill them all. God will recognize his own."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:28 PM on 06/18/2008
- JohnnyBasic See Profile I'm a Fan of JohnnyBasic permalink

How come Huffington Post did not post my comment?

Do they filter on certain words? (Maybe Mussolini, Stalin, Hitler, Pinochet, Bush.)

What I said was not offensive. I'd like to know what their criteria are for censorship.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 06/18/2008
- guajiro See Profile I'm a Fan of guajiro permalink

Basically, when Huffpo edited/screened certain comments in the past, what they didn't know was that by doing so they brought on certain legal obligations unto themselves. Now they have to do it to avoid harmful litigation. That they erase certain comments willy-nilly is kind of funny in that I think it demonstrates the total lack of discipline in adhereing to any particular kind of editing standards. They're editors are kind of like the fly-by-night, $5 dollar hooker with too much make-up and clothes that fit a pre-teen.
"Prior to the act, at least one Internet service provider had been held liable as a publisher because the provider assumed a publisher-like role by screening and editing harmful material. The California Supreme Court said Congress granted Internet providers immunity in the hope the industry would self-regulate and purge the Internet of at least some offensive material."
http://www.rcfp.org/news/2006/1121-lib-hostin.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 06/18/2008
- TommyBobama See Profile I'm a Fan of TommyBobama permalink

This comment is pending approval and won't be displayed until it is approved.

There are no criteria and there are no written rules. Sometimes stuff gets posted. Sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it gets posted and then taken down.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 06/18/2008
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This comment is pending approval and won't be displayed until it is approved.

if you use the words screw and raw together that seems to trigger it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 06/18/2008
- southafrica4obama See Profile I'm a Fan of southafrica4obama permalink

If Bush can do it. Why not Mugabe or Castro?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 06/18/2008
- sytgrl See Profile I'm a Fan of sytgrl permalink

" . . . if someone dies while aggressive techniques are being used, regardless of cause of death, the backlash of attention would be severely detrimental. Everything must be approved and documented."

Priorities, Priorities....So where are those missing video tapes....?

Impeachment by Congress is the only recourse, since (as one poster noted earlier) the administration, in an attempt to plan ahead, pulled us out of the World Court in 2002.

More irrefutable evidence of using illegal chemical weapons:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/15/1010/24597/728/536258

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 06/18/2008
- ashabot See Profile I'm a Fan of ashabot permalink

I have given up second guessing just how low these people can go. They defy every concept of morality, decency, fairness, honesty, compassion, truth, hope. there is. You name it. If it's good, they have violated it. Words cannot describe how much I despise these men.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 PM on 06/18/2008
- yair See Profile I'm a Fan of yair permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 06/18/2008
- nirek See Profile I'm a Fan of nirek permalink

More of bush, anyone?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 06/18/2008
- Raymondf See Profile I'm a Fan of Raymondf permalink

yes wish he had 12 more years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 06/18/2008
- Exusian See Profile I'm a Fan of Exusian permalink

Child.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 06/18/2008
- pinkyboo See Profile I'm a Fan of pinkyboo permalink

And yet I have not seen anything about this on the MSM -- Bastards!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 PM on 06/18/2008
- LivingStardust See Profile I'm a Fan of LivingStardust permalink

Keep up the censorship, HuffPo.

I'll make sure you lose more than one reader.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 PM on 06/18/2008
- Raymondf See Profile I'm a Fan of Raymondf permalink

me also.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 06/18/2008
- JohnnyBasic See Profile I'm a Fan of JohnnyBasic permalink

On every illegal act this administration has perpetrated Congress has been complacent and done nothing (both Republicans and Democrats).

I'm voting Independent for every seat (even if I don't know who they are).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 06/18/2008
- guajiro See Profile I'm a Fan of guajiro permalink

I understand your frustration. It kills me too. May I suggest a more focused approach? Take Steny Hoyer. He of the "let's give immunity to the telecomms". We can target his removal by joining MoveOn.org and suggesting the targeting of Hoyer for removal. A concentrated effort by like-thinking individuals quickly becomes an army. The same can be done of Pelosi and Reid for ruling out impeachment or any other kind of penalty for the crime syndicate that is the Bush cabal. With the removal of a few of the top betrayers of the true Democratic ideal, the rest will follow.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 PM on 06/18/2008
- RTIII See Profile I'm a Fan of RTIII permalink


It seems like every single day there's another bit that comes out about this traitorous administration.

They TRULY need to be brought up on war-crimes charges...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 AM on 06/18/2008
- Nonamnesiac See Profile I'm a Fan of Nonamnesiac permalink

Impeachment/removal. 67 Senators are necessary for removal. The 67 votes necessary for removing Bush and Cheney will be reached when those Republicans running for reelection for the 22 Republican Senate seats up in November have to choose betweem voting to remove Bush/Cheney or, if they don't, know they will removed by the voters of their states in November. Once Articles of Impeachment are competently presented the Ameican people wll demand impeachment/removal of both of them.

Impeachment/removal is the only accountability weapon for executive criminalty. It's not enough to rely on elections, as the precedent is now set for criminal behavior in the White House or in the Executive Branch to continue. Congress's failure to move impeachment/removal means they are collaborating in high crimes and misdemeanors. Can you imagine that the US is now hiding how it treats its prisoners from the International Red Cross?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 AM on 06/18/2008
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