Obama Leads McCain By 15 Points In Another Poll

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Bloomberg   |   June 24, 2008 05:19 PM


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Democrat Barack Obama has opened a 15-point lead in the presidential race, and most of the political trends -- voter enthusiasm, views of President George W. Bush, the Republicans, the economy and the direction of the country -- point to even greater trouble for rival John McCain.

Illinois Senator Obama, winning support from once skeptical women and Democrats, beats McCain 48 percent to 33 percent in a four-way race, a Bloomberg/Los Angeles Times poll shows. Independent candidates Bob Barr and Ralph Nader get 7 percent combined, with the remainder undecided.

Obama's margin and most of the poll's findings in other areas give the Democrats a commanding advantage more than four months before the November election, says Susan Pinkus, the Los Angeles Times polling director.

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- RIPHRC See Profile I'm a Fan of RIPHRC

Since most political polls still exclusively call fixed telephone lines and the cell-phone-only crowd tend to be liberal and younger, these polls are extremely skewed in McCains favor. In fact, almost all of the people I know in their 20"s and 30"s are cell phone only. If the Republicans think THIS is bad news, they"ve got a surprise headed their way in November.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 06/25/2008
- gtt See Profile I'm a Fan of gtt

Polling is good in that it reassures nervous voters that Senator Obama is a viable candidate. It will also help fundraising as all like to support a winner, not that he needs much help in this area.

Senator McCain is such a poor speaker and campaigner. He does seem to have trouble recalling what he has said in the past. There are several interesting clips of him contradicting himself on very basic issues. He will have difficulty in closing the gap. The Republican National Convention will not have any great issues to highlight. They will certainly try to avoid mention of Bush, which will look silly. Not much of a bump there... perhaps only from the news clips of McCain forty years ago as a POW.

Senator Obama will get a real bump from the Democratic National Convention. Many great speakers will be able to plunder the GOP and past failures.

The debates and town hall meetings will give voters a real good look at the differences between these two candidates. Who do you think will benefit ?

Also, as he is able to hold leads of double digits, the press will no longer be able to run silly stories about the blocks of voters (hispanic, blue collar, female) that they claim he can not attract.

The Obama campaign staff is smart. Keep him out of gaffs and they could win this election by more than 15 points. Believe it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 06/25/2008
- Alfannell See Profile I'm a Fan of Alfannell

What could really hurt John McCain is the Ron Paul renegade Convention in which his supporters will rather vote for Bob Barr.
http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-06-11/ron-paul-convention-on-september-2/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 AM on 06/25/2008
- Nonamnesiac See Profile I'm a Fan of Nonamnesiac

Obama is at the precise moment politically that Hillary was at in 2002 when she voted against the majority of Democrats in Congress, to send military members of my family and hundreds of thousands of other families into harm's way against the interests of the Untied States, desptie the overwhelming intelligence at the time that Saddam had no WMDs and was an enemy of al Qaeda. That vote is the reason Hillary was defeated for the nomination by a guy whose middle name is Hussein, despite the fact she had the party establishment and the Clinton machine behind her.

If he votes for the compromise and does not fully support the Feingold/Dodd filibuster of the FISA Bill, he will lose the election, as people will seem him as someone who lacks experience to be President AND who is not an agent of change. Progressives are watching Obama closely on this and on the war. If he wants to suffer what Hillary has suffered, then he will vote for the compromise. Why support an inexperienced purveyor of the corporations when voters can support an experienced purveyor of the coroporations?

The only reason to support the compromise, or to support immunity or the civil liberties infringements in the new FISA Bill, is because he is on the telecoms' payroll or his supporters are on the telecoms' payroll.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 AM on 06/25/2008
- angelbravo See Profile I'm a Fan of angelbravo

Supporting Ralph Nader does not help anyone. He's a giant leap, way to big for the General Public. Your the reason the GOP has nearly ran us into the ground. YOU!!!!!!!! Bush Enabler

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 06/25/2008
- Nonamnesiac See Profile I'm a Fan of Nonamnesiac

You're simply a self-deluded, Nader-baiting, Democratic Party sycophant, willing to self-delude in order to believe in that which isn't. You also enable war crimes in that you vote for Democrats who vote to fund the Iraq occupation. You're the "Good German" from WWII, knowing genocide is going on but participating in, and therefore validating, the system although you didn't personally partake in genocide. But your voting in those who fund the war crimes (like Obama), who vote for trampling on the Constitution (like Obama), who vote to immunize corporations from their criminal actions (like Obama) shows you actually are participating in murderous criminal activity, just like your "Good German" predecessors.

It takes people like you to argue that those who will not vote for someone who will continue to fund torture and war crimes, even if they verbally talk against torture and war crimes while they vote to fund them, are the enablers. It's the unprincipled, self-deluded "Good Germans" like you who vote for these Democrats like Obama who fund the war and immunize corporations from civil or criminal liability for crimes they commit --and then attack those of us who don't vote for these Democrats -- who are the Bush enablers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 AM on 06/26/2008
- 1099 See Profile I'm a Fan of 1099

Get your facts straight.

Hillary voted with the majority of democrats to authorize the option of military action against Iraq.

Lucky for him, Obama wasn't in the Senate at the time and didn't have to make a decision on that vote. He did give a great speech railing against the war though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 AM on 06/25/2008
- Nonamnesiac See Profile I'm a Fan of Nonamnesiac

I do have my facts straight. Stop giving Hillary talking points. Hillary voted to send the military members of my family in harm's way against the interests of the United States and voted against the majority of Democrats in Congress at the time in casting her vote to invade Iraq. Everyone knew at that time it was a vote to go to war, including Hillary.

Now Obama has made a similar backwards vote calculated to advance himself politically at the expense of the people. He is no longer an agent of change and that means the candidate the voters perceive as most experienced will win -- and the voters consider McCain more experienced than Obama. If Obama is not about change, he loses on the experience issue.

Obama Hillaried himself with his vote on this. It will reverberate and he will lose.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 AM on 06/26/2008
- Witchitalineman See Profile I'm a Fan of Witchitalineman

I strongly support Obama but we can't rely on a poll done in June to cement his presidency. Luckily, the state I live in is pretty progressive in its thinking but the things I read about voters living in some states in the south and northeast scare the holy bejusus out of me. It's like a time capsule stuck in the 50's.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 AM on 06/25/2008
- uvymopkq See Profile I'm a Fan of uvymopkq

Obama leads McCain by 20 points in the Gubber poll.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 AM on 06/25/2008
- WIpatriot See Profile I'm a Fan of WIpatriot

That's ALL?

I see we still haven't learned after 8 years....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 AM on 06/25/2008
- ClydeSloppers See Profile I'm a Fan of ClydeSloppers

And I am one of the 20 pointers that are gonna come out on election day and slap down that 15 point lead. YEAH!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 AM on 06/25/2008
- TRichards See Profile I'm a Fan of TRichards

Polls in June are about as useful as crystal balls in regard to what the sentiment will be in November. McCain gets unlimited screw-ups for free since the MSM has asserted that he's a "maverick" and a "straight-shooter" despite all evidence to the contrary. (Why not just say, "I like the man" and get it over with?)

Obama, ,however, will be swift- boated not only for ANY verbal miscue he may make in the next five months but also for things attributed to him via distortions. It will cut into his margin -- hopefully not to the point that he loses. However, I'd bet on a nail-biter rather than a landslide. (Hope I'm wrong . . . if only for the novelty of it. )

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 AM on 06/25/2008
- oneblackvote See Profile I'm a Fan of oneblackvote

Obama08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 AM on 06/25/2008
- VOTER See Profile I'm a Fan of VOTER

You nailed the message, "Obama08"

Don't trust polls. We must, all, work to elect President Obama.

VOTE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 AM on 06/25/2008
- crossoverwriter See Profile I'm a Fan of crossoverwriter

Obama & Webb in 08.
Get out the VOTE!
Let's open up more of a lead by Nov.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 AM on 06/25/2008
- jeersforfears See Profile I'm a Fan of jeersforfears

This is a bogus poll. Only head-to-head polls should be considered. Once again, democratic push pollers are trying to influence the upcoming election.

Reminds me of the exit pollers in Ohio in '04 who flooded heavily Democrat districts and came up with horribly skewed numbers favoring Kerry, in order to discourage Bush voters from voting later in the day. Of course Democrat surrogates twisted it, saying the Republicans "stole" another election by rigging the computers - an allegation never proved, because it was untrue.

Liberals truly do not care about what's right and wrong, only what works.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 AM on 06/25/2008
- VOTER See Profile I'm a Fan of VOTER

Former Ohio Congressman, Bob Ney, is now living in a Federal Prison. GUILTY!

Two Ohio Election Workers found GUILTY.

And there is good reading about J. Kenneth Blackwell, Ohio's former Sec. of State
and co-chair for the Bush-Cheney Campaign, 2004.

If you Google, Ohio Election Fraud for 2004, you will be reading articles for
most of your day.

Carry on.....................

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 AM on 06/25/2008
- Cugel See Profile I'm a Fan of Cugel

LA Times/Bloomberg Poll WAS a "head to head" poll! So much for THAT argument.

"Ooops! That's where my claim falls to the ground! There was no possible way of answering that, I was only hoping you wouldn't make that particular point, but I can see you're more than a match for me." -- Monty Python

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 AM on 06/25/2008
- Bootoomee See Profile I'm a Fan of Bootoomee

Keep up the cynicism!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 AM on 06/25/2008
- Countdown09 See Profile I'm a Fan of Countdown09

I don't know why people feel McCain would be better to protect this country. Yes, he may have more experience in foreign affairs but so what, what good is his experience? He supported going into Iraq, he's got the same Bush mentality in regards to foreign affairs and where has that gotten us? McCain like Bush thinks the only way to protect this country is by using guns and bombs like I said hows that working for us?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 AM on 06/25/2008
- mergina See Profile I'm a Fan of mergina

That number is going to tighten dramatically with the next three months of swift boat scum attacks, so don't get too comfortable with this latest polling illusion. There should be question marks before and after every polling result because most border on insufficient data and some are just made up to sway public opinion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 AM on 06/25/2008
- Amathyne See Profile I'm a Fan of Amathyne

I 100% agree with you. Many candidates that have had big leads at this stage have lost the election. Dukakis springs to mind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 AM on 06/25/2008
- truthyguy See Profile I'm a Fan of truthyguy

If you listen to Fox talking heads the polls show it pretty near even except for some small pockets of voters in places that don't matter much. Fox should be prohibited from using the word "news".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 AM on 06/25/2008
- Countdown09 See Profile I'm a Fan of Countdown09

Well if Fox says it than it MUST be true. Good grief, that the last place one should go for an un-bias opinion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 AM on 06/25/2008
- lobo1939 See Profile I'm a Fan of lobo1939

I am sure this has been said already, but don't ever underestimate the ability of the democrats to snap defeat from the jaws of victory.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 PM on 06/24/2008
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