Oil Prices Down: Crude Oil Prices Drop More Than $8 In 2 days

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ADAM SCHRECK | July 8, 2008 09:34 PM EST | AP

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NEW YORK — Oil tumbled more than $5 a barrel Tuesday in its second big drop this week, hurling crude back to levels not seen since June 26 as traders wary about the health of the global economy cashed in gains from oil's recent rally.

Light, sweet crude for August delivery fell $5.33 to settle at $136.04, after earlier slumping as low as $135.14. The decline followed a $3.92 slide on Monday, bringing oil's two-day drop to more than $9.

The market's bearish turn this week erases, at least for the time being, the effect of a rally that pushed prices past $145 in a string of record-setting sessions before the Fourth of July.

Analysts attributed much of the recent sell-off to profit-taking, saying traders were cashing in on the previous week's gains. A stronger dollar also helped keep prices lower by discouraging investors from pumping more money into commodities.

At the same time, concerns about global oil supply disruptions subsided and fears that the economic slowdown is spreading moved to the forefront.

"Sagging global equities, which are tipping a lack of confidence in economic growth in both developed and emerging economies, helped trigger the retreat in the energy markets," Addison Armstrong, director of market research at Tradition Energy, said in a research note.

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Still, analysts warned the pullback could be fleeting.

"For the time being it's what we call corrective. ... It's a profit-taking pullback that could still be followed by fresh highs down the road," said Jim Ritterbusch, president of energy consultancy Ritterbusch and Associates.

Ritterbusch said Tuesday's decline may have gained added momentum when computer models used by large investment funds automatically sold oil contracts once prices fell to a pre-set threshold.

"A significant part of it's technical," he said of the day's trading. "A lot of these funds don't watch supply and demand fundamentals."

A decline in oil prices wouldn't translate into relief at the gas pump for some time. Retail gasoline prices in the U.S. held steady at a record $4.108 a gallon, according to AAA auto club, the Oil Price Information Service and Wright Express. Diesel continued to advance, rising more than half a penny to a record $4.807 a gallon.

Oil hit a trading record of $145.85 on last week before settling at a record close of $145.29 a barrel.

Concern over the unruly oil market was a top priority Tuesday at a summit of industrialized powers in Rusutsu, Japan with leaders calling on petroleum suppliers to boost production and refining and to increase investment in oil exploration and output over the medium term.

The G-8 _ which groups the U.S., Britain, Japan, France, Germany, Canada, Russia and Italy _ also called for diversifying sources of energy and further efforts to improve energy efficiency.

"We remain positive about the long-term resilience of our economies and future global growth," the communique said, noting that growth in emerging economies remained strong. "However, the world economy is now facing uncertainty and downside risks persist."

The U.S. dollar was stronger against the euro and the pound, but lost ground against the Japanese yen and the Swiss franc. A falling dollar has helped boost oil prices about 50 percent this year, with investors often buying commodities such as oil as a hedge against inflation when the greenback weakens.

Along with some signs of life from the dollar, fears that fresh conflict in the Middle East could cut oil supplies eased over the weekend after Iran gave an undisclosed response to an international offer of incentives if it suspends a central part of its nuclear program.

In other Nymex trade, heating oil fell by 14.94 cents to settle at $3.8202 a gallon and gasoline futures sank by about 12 cents to end at $3.3631 a gallon. Natural gas futures dropped 60.9 cents to settle at $12.368 per 1,000 cubic feet.

August Brent crude also lost heavily, dropping $5.44 to settle at $136.43 barrel on the ICE Futures exchange in London.

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Associated Press writers George Jahn in Vienna, Austria, and Malcolm Foster in Rusutsu, Japan, contributed to this report.

 
 

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- mediamarv See Profile I'm a Fan of mediamarv

Little bit late on this story, right, based on the news from Iran today... that $8 went away fast!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 07/09/2008
- Pquilson See Profile I'm a Fan of Pquilson

136 and change at 7:06 AM central 7/10/08..
However, I am concerned that the missile tests by Iran have more to do with increasing the price of crude that with their ability, which they already have, to fire ballistic missiles at Israel or US bases in the middle east.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 AM on 07/10/2008
- mouselion See Profile I'm a Fan of mouselion

"*hurling* crude back to levels not seen since June 26" -- ?! --

More like timidly inching.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 AM on 07/09/2008
- MrBluebird See Profile I'm a Fan of MrBluebird

Gas taxers, I have a question for you. Where do you think the poor and working class are going to get the money to pay for $8/gal gas? Rapid price increases as you propose will only yield social chaos and not solve the energy problem. Well maybe I am wrong there. If we destroy enough of our social structure we will only need gas for the police tanks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 AM on 07/09/2008
- Rule Of Law See Profile I'm a Fan of Rule Of Law

Mr. Bluebird, what you say rings too true to be heard by the "peak oil" acolytes. They are of the hair-shirt, self flagellation mind set, where we all (except for them, of course) must do penance for our profligate ways. They refuse to see either the human component in the speculation that has driven the cost of oil into the stratosphere, or the human cost of those prices on those less fortunate. To them we are all guilty, and should pay for it, one way or another. These are the people (all 4 or 5 of them) who would have led the cheering at a witch burning.

Oddly enough, the best solutions to end the stranglehold of oil come from the folks who understand that, while ALL resources are ultimately finite, the price gouging we are seeing under the Bush administration is no coincidence, and not related in any way to the "peak" theory. They work at finding answers to our oil independence based on real science and a close study of human nature. They don't trust the data from Big Oil or The Government because they know that those tanks are lurking in the shadows. Under Presidential Directive 51, all Bush and Cheney need is ONE outbreak of civil unrest, and our Constitution ceases to exist. How much higher will the price need to go before people begin to rebel?

I say, let's have alternate energy Now, but let's understand why we are doing it--self preservation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 PM on 07/09/2008
- leduck See Profile I'm a Fan of leduck

here"s some names for your peer review besides m. king hubbert

1. kenneth deffeyes
2. Colin J. Campbell
3. Jean H. Laherrère
4. Hirsch report
5. Ali Samsam Bakhtiari
6. Jeffrey Brown (export land model)
7. Kjell Aleklett (president of ASPO)
8. David L. Goodstein (physics professor at Cal Tech [not a geologist], author "out of gas")
9. Megan Quinn (I mention her because she"s the only one I know who majored in Peak Oil)

lets see if you even bother to respond
i doubt it
but this message is in two different locations to try to help my odds

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 AM on 07/09/2008
- leduck See Profile I'm a Fan of leduck

ok ruleo flaw
plug these numbers into the mathematical formula
first assume 2 trillion barrels (urr " ultimate recoverable reserves)
then peak occurs about 2005 or right about now
now assume 3 trillion barrels of oil
peak occurs in about 2020
(increasing the worlds supply of oil only pushed back the date of peak about 15 years)
if you assume 4 trillion barrels of oil
then peak hits in 2030
see " we"ve been burning oil for over 150 years and doubling the world"s oil supply doesn"t push back the date of peak very far

if your optimistic 15 years isn"t really that long

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 AM on 07/09/2008
- Gary47 See Profile I'm a Fan of Gary47

Well, a whole week went by with George not threatening to invade another country. Things naturally calm down when that happens.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 AM on 07/09/2008
- WhiteDelyte See Profile I'm a Fan of WhiteDelyte

oh what a relief.
Im gonna fill up tomorrow, its gotta be back down to 3.99 a gallon.
They must have started drilling in Alaska already. That was fast.
gee McStain was right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 AM on 07/09/2008
- darthdarcy See Profile I'm a Fan of darthdarcy

They feel the heat and are hoping Congress does nothing about the Enron Loophole they'll make it back after the election for now their trying to help McCain and the Republicans...they gave McCain $722,000.00 plus already this year alone Big Oil that is...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 PM on 07/08/2008
- Rule Of Law See Profile I'm a Fan of Rule Of Law

darth, darth, darth, you poor silly man--don't you know that "Peak Oil" wrote those checks--but they can only be cashed at the "Bank of Enron!" :)

They continue to ignore the obvious, don't they? Hope that none of them ever gets cancer and goes to the "peak oil" doctor who tells them, "No. that's just a really big mole."

I'd say it would be time to get a second opinion from a real specialist--just like the one we all want to see about their theory. 1,000 Independent scientists have written about global climate change. How many have written on the "peak" theory?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 07/09/2008
- KillTheMessenger See Profile I'm a Fan of KillTheMessenger

That's really funny.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 AM on 07/09/2008
- taoist See Profile I'm a Fan of taoist

I think that it is the eye of storm. Bushy wants a war with Iran so bad he can taste it. When he bombs them 4.00 plus a gal. is going to be the good ol days!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 PM on 07/08/2008
- Coyote2 See Profile I'm a Fan of Coyote2

I think that it is more likely that the Saudis strongly suggested to B-ush that he take care of the Iranians b4 they increased production. A Shite nuclear power is not only NOT in the best interests of I-srael and the USA, but of the radical Sunnis behind the power in S-audi A-rabia.

Of course arm-chair leftist extremists love to bash I-srael and the US over this, don't you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 PM on 07/08/2008
- Rule Of Law See Profile I'm a Fan of Rule Of Law
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there you go again--making sense, as far as it goes. The Shia are not and never have been as radical as the Sunnis. The Sunni Saudis still support schools in their country that teach the most anti-western hate there is. Shia Iran--before we began interfering in their affairs, was among the most moderate, liberal, and modern of mid-eastern countries. As was Iraq. The Only reason we are threatening them now, is that they have spoken openly of trading their oil on their own bourse and doing it in Euros or the new Islamic Gold Dinar.

We attacked Iraq after Saddam suggested that they go over to Euros. He could bomb and poison his own people (with our weapons, sold to him willingly) but let him threaten to destabilize the base of our monetary policy, and now, that's a crime.

Forget about Iran's nuclear ambitions. It's their unwillingness to play by our money rules that will determine their future.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 07/09/2008
- Coyote2 See Profile I'm a Fan of Coyote2

Rule Of Law posted:
"peak oil" conspirators do more damage to our markets and our economy than any of the speculators.....George Bush and Dickie Cheney, and Goldman-Sachs do their work of driving up the price"

*
Rule; Your position is excessively over-simplified and excessively conspiratorial. What you forget is that American oil giants only possess a tiny fraction of the world's oil. So, for a Cheney/Bush conspiracy to work, this tiny fraction would have to be able to control the vast majority of the world's oil producers, Norway, Russia, Iran and Venezuela included.... ............NOT.

Republicans are Cornucopians (Google it). Putting Peakers in the same camp as Cheney, or accusing them as being Cheney puppets suggests that your purpose here is more to confuse and obfuscate, rather than inform or discuss.

Now if you would suggest that these oil men saw this coming and planned to maximized their profits on the backs of ordinary Americans, I think that your views would have a more sympathetic audience. As is, your rejection of World Peak Oil, which is a proven theory with the accurate forecast of American peak oil, combined with your conspiracy complex is more silly than helpful.
Cont....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 07/08/2008
- Coyote2 See Profile I'm a Fan of Coyote2

part2
Cheap oil is gone forever. And the fools in the W-hite H-ouse thought they could control and profit during this transition to a world of Energy Scarcity; it's gone well beyond their control.

And combined with Global Climate Destabilization, we now have that dual-headed Wendigo I warned you about three years ago that we will devastate our economy in the 21'st century UNLESS we act now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 PM on 07/08/2008
- Rule Of Law See Profile I'm a Fan of Rule Of Law

Ah, Cornucopians--I see you read the "peak oil" conspiracy theorists bible--The Oil Drum. Again Coyote, not even an original thought?

Now, to dissect your assumptions. Just as with DeBeers and diamonds, it's not about owning every mine, or oil field, it's about controlling the spigot through which it flows.

In this case, we are talking about the Financial Markets--Investment Banks, stock exchanges, and commodity markets. The British and Americans have always, and still do, control the finances of the world. Why do you think Oil is priced in ever-decreasing valued dollars????

The Saudis, OPEC, the Oil Companies themselves, depend on these gatekeepers to move their product. And, as we have seen, engage in speculation that drives it ever higher. It not a conspiracy in the "Who Shot JFK," mold, really. It's just people doing business the way they always have when regulations are removed and the Government looks the other way.

Just as the "peakers" are simply mislead and under-informed tools. As I have said, and will keep saying; show me the incontrovertible science--not fifty year old industry guess work and self fulfilling bell curves. Repeating over and over that the days of cheap oil are over may have some soporific effect for you and others who refuse to see the real market at work here, it doesn't take the place of hard data.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 PM on 07/08/2008
- anastasiabeaverhousen See Profile I'm a Fan of anastasiabeaverhousen

Well, sh*t fire, I should go out and buy a Hummer.

As if the price of gasoline is going down any time soon.............bollocks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 07/08/2008
- Coyote2 See Profile I'm a Fan of Coyote2

Whoopee.............................We're saved !!!

Oil has dropped and is now Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeap

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee..............................

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 07/08/2008
- leduck See Profile I'm a Fan of leduck

you've got a pretty hard head ruleo flaw
just like learsy

peak oil is about bell curves
all that's needed is an educated guess as to how much oil there is
2 trillion, 3 trillion, 4 trillion
it's a math thing dude
plug in numbers
and plot a bell curves
a curve that assumes 2 trillion barrels of oil
a curve for 3 trillion
a curve for 4 trillion etc....

then you can have the curve peak when ever you want

but that wouldn't convince you of anything either

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubbert_peak_theory
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_oil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predicting_the_timing_of_peak_oil

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 07/08/2008
- Rule Of Law See Profile I'm a Fan of Rule Of Law

The only bells you should be concerned about are the ones in your head.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 PM on 07/08/2008
- Coyote2 See Profile I'm a Fan of Coyote2

Rule: is this your best argument? is that all you got? When you reply with personal insults, you CONCEDE defeat. You know that, don't you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 07/08/2008
- leduck See Profile I'm a Fan of leduck

the overall trend for oil is up, up, up
it may go down for short periods of time
but the overall trend is up


anyone who changes their mind on that hummer, or SUV is making a big mistake

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 PM on 07/08/2008
- marignymitch See Profile I'm a Fan of marignymitch

Republicans preparing for election in November.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 07/08/2008
- trollsbwild See Profile I'm a Fan of trollsbwild

Down $1.50 by November?.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 07/08/2008
- thegreatgiginthesky See Profile I'm a Fan of thegreatgiginthesky

You can bet on it. Amazing how the demand for oil has all of a sudden ceased. What happened to India and China sucking up the worlds resources?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 PM on 07/08/2008
- Rule Of Law See Profile I'm a Fan of Rule Of Law

Engdahl had some charts that showed an overall slowing in demand and, surprise surprise, a growing supply. Sure. it may not last, but why hasn't it affected the price as radically as the Butterfly Effects we've seen driving it upward? You don't need a Phd to tell which way the wind blows....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 07/08/2008
- Coyote2 See Profile I'm a Fan of Coyote2

Conspiracy theorists are always cute............................come on kids, wakey wakey. Pancakes are on the griddle. Rise and shine.

Did you even read the article? It gave some good reasons for the price drop which coincide with the analysis of rising prices. That means that the logic is sound, as oppossed to your complete lack of reasoning.

The Republicans may release reserve oil to drop prices for the Nov election, but please do tell: how was this price drop accomplished today? Magic? Prayer?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 PM on 07/08/2008
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