Obama Meets With Afghan President Karzai

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FISNIK ABRASHI | July 20, 2008 10:34 PM EST | AP

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In this photo released by the Afghan Presidential Palace is seen U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama, second left, as he walks along with Afghan President Hamid Karzai, center foreground, and other officials at the Presidential Palace in Kabul, Sunday, July 20, 2008. Obama praised American troops while having breakfast with them in Kabul on Sunday, ahead of an expected meeting with Afghan leader Hamid Karzai, a man Obama has chided for not doing enough to rebuild the war-torn country. (AP Photo/Presidential Palace, HO)

KABUL, Afghanistan — Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama pledged steadfast aid to Afghanistan in talks Sunday with its Western-backed leader and vowed to pursue the war on terror "with vigor" if elected, an Afghan official said.

On the second day of an international tour designed to burnish his foreign policy credentials, Illinois Sen. Obama and a pair of colleagues held two hours of talks with President Hamid Karzai at his palace in the capital.

Obama has chided Karzai for not doing more to build confidence in his government, which remains weak after the ouster of the Taliban in 2001.

He made no public comment after the meeting, but said in a written statement that his main purpose was to see U.S troops, thank them for their "extraordinary service" and let them know the United States is proud of them.

Obama said he and his colleagues were talking to military and diplomatic leaders, and Afghanistan's leaders about whether the U.S. has the right strategy and resources to defeat the Taliban and al-Qaida.

"Our message to the Afghan government is this: We want a strong partnership based on 'more for more' _ more resources from the United States and NATO, and more action from the Afghan government to improve the lives of the Afghan people," Obama and Sens. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., and Jack Reed, D-R.I., said in a joint statement. "We need a sense of urgency and determination.

"We need urgency because the threat from the Taliban and al-Qaida is growing and we must act; we need determination because it will take time to prevail," they said. "But with the right strategy and the resources to back it up, we will get the job done."

The Afghan presidency said Obama's message was positive.

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"Sen. Obama conveyed ... that he is committed to supporting Afghanistan and to continue the war against terrorism with vigor," said Humayun Hamidzada, Karzai's spokesman. He said Democrats and Republicans "are friends of Afghanistan and no matter who wins the U.S. elections, Afghanistan will have a very strong partner in the United States."

The three U.S. senators traveled later Sunday to Kuwait City, where they met with Kuwait's emir, Sheik Sabah Al Ahmed Al Sabah, and other senior officials, the Kuwait News Agency reported. The delegation was then moving on to Baghdad for meetings with commanders of the U.S. war in Iraq.

Obama has made Afghanistan a centerpiece of his proposed strategy for dealing with terrorism threats. The Illinois senator has said the war in Afghanistan, where Taliban and al-Qaida-linked militants are resurgent, deserves more troops and more attention as opposed to the conflict in Iraq. Both Obama and his Republican rival for the presidency, Sen. John McCain, advocate sending more forces to the country.

In an interview broadcast Sunday in the United States, Obama described the situation here as "precarious" and "urgent," and said the U.S. should not wait to begin the planning that would be needed to send in more troops. As troops sent to Iraq as part of the buildup of forces there begin to leave, Obama says one to two brigades should be redirected to Afghanistan to bolster the efforts here.

"The situation is precarious and urgent here in Afghanistan and I believe this has to be our central focus, the central front in our battle against terrorists," Obama told CBS News. "If we wait until the next administration it could be a year before we get those troops on the ground."

While officially part of a congressional delegation on a fact-finding tour, Obama traveled in Afghanistan amid the security accorded a likely Democratic nominee for president rather than a senator from Illinois.

Media access to him was limited, and his itinerary was closely guarded.

Earlier Sunday, he praised U.S. troops during breakfast with soldiers at Camp Eggers, a heavily fortified military base in the city.

"To see young people like this who are doing such excellent work, with so much dedication ... it makes you feel good about the country," Obama said.

"I want to make sure that everybody back home understands how much pride people take in their work here and how much sacrifice people are making. It is outstanding," he said in footage filmed by the military and obtained by The Associated Press.

On Saturday, the delegation received briefings from U.S. commanders and a former Afghan warlord who is now the governor of Nangarhar, a province in eastern Afghanistan where militant attacks are spiraling.

The trip is Obama's first overseas since he secured the Democratic nomination last month. He is scheduled to travel through Europe this week and give a speech on the U.S.-German partnership and trans-Atlantic relations in front of the gold-topped Victory Column, or Siegessaeule, in downtown Berlin.

Obama advocates ending the U.S. combat role in Iraq by withdrawing troops at the rate of one to two brigades a month while increasing the military commitment to Afghanistan. Obama has proposed sending two more combat brigades _ about 7,000 troops _ to Afghanistan. McCain, who has criticized Obama for not spending more time in the region, also advocates sending more forces to the war-battered country.

U.S. military officials say the number of attacks in eastern Afghanistan, where most of the U.S. forces in the country operate, has increased by 40 percent so far this year compared to the same period last year.

Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, told The Associated Press on Saturday that after intense U.S. assaults there, al-Qaida may be considering shifting focus to its original home base in Afghanistan, where American casualties are recently running higher than in Iraq.

Obama also has expressed weariness with efforts by Afghanistan's neighbor, Pakistan, to go after militants in its territory. That frustration may strike a chord with Karzai, who has accused Pakistan's intelligence service of supporting the Taliban insurgency _ a claim Pakistan denies.

But Obama also has chided Karzai and his government, saying it had "not gotten out of the bunker" and helped to organize the country or its political and security institutions.

 
 

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- DMM1029 See Profile I'm a Fan of DMM1029

You mean the mayor of Kabul? Or the mayor of the green zone? This is what we get when the MSM is allowed to define the issues, and set the agenda. The debate should freeze out all the MSM creeps.

Dave McGlaughlin--Harrisburg, Pa.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 AM on 07/21/2008
- AbolishTheFed See Profile I'm a Fan of AbolishTheFed

O vowed to pursue the war on terror "with vigor" if elected. MORE WAR! TOLD ya.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 AM on 07/21/2008
- Dustee See Profile I'm a Fan of Dustee

Obama vowed to be as 'CAREFUL' getting out of the war as Bush (and everyone that signed on) were 'CARELESS' getting into it. And he can do it 'with vigor".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 AM on 07/21/2008
- qdog112 See Profile I'm a Fan of qdog112

Is it me or does CNN show only a split second video clip of Barack and Kazai together? After that they cut away to show each individually and then a wide shot of the room. Call me a cynic, but I think Barack looks very presidential when both men are in the shot. MSM realizes that dual shots elevate Barack to the leader's status and that could be problematic for some.

In the past, the shots have always been wide enough to show both subjects together. I guess I'll reserve judgment for later, but I hope there is not a pattern. Has anyone else noticed this?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 PM on 07/20/2008
- eden4barack08 See Profile I'm a Fan of eden4barack08

No, it's not you. You're right. They don't want him to look too presidential. Notice even Huffpo got rid of that photo of O and Karzai sitting by the fireplace. I guess everybody still receives orders from high places.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 AM on 07/21/2008
- AbolishTheFed See Profile I'm a Fan of AbolishTheFed

O looks like a TRAITOR to this country, IMO!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 AM on 07/21/2008
- neiltheblaze See Profile I'm a Fan of neiltheblaze

Interesting that the writer of the article mentions twice that McCain also wants to send troops into Afghanistan. What the writer doesn't mention is that McCain came to this conclusion about three or four days ago, nearly suffering a severe case of whiplash in his haste to skid to a halt and embrace Obama's position - and abandon his insistence for months that there need be no extra troops in Afghanistan.

I'm going to have great fun observing as the Republicans are forced to watch helplessly as Obama steals the headline real-estate in the International Press for better than a week. Good, clean fun.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:22 PM on 07/20/2008
- AbolishTheFed See Profile I'm a Fan of AbolishTheFed

neiltheblaze, so you're CHEERING for MORE WAR.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 AM on 07/21/2008
- JackDemocracy See Profile I'm a Fan of JackDemocracy

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 AM on 07/21/2008
- Oilygarch See Profile I'm a Fan of Oilygarch

Yeah, same as for the current Admin.

For MacBoosh & friends, the thing for the electorate to watch out for will be:

''What did they think and when did they thunk it?''

Temporal relationships, precursors and dependencies are factors that come into play, no matter how they are played in their respective press-releases.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 07/20/2008
- dondon7777 See Profile I'm a Fan of dondon7777

Spot on Jupitor!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 07/20/2008
- lboucher See Profile I'm a Fan of lboucher

Interesting how President Karzai look pissed and pained in all the pictures with Obama.

Could it be because Obama spent months bashing Karzai before ever visiting Afghanistan and meeting Karzai!!

Obama kept repeating how Karzai was not doing enough to win the war.

Now Obama beats the drum we need 10,000 - 15,000 additional U.S. troops in Afghanistan ASAP!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 07/20/2008
- AryanMjolnir See Profile I'm a Fan of AryanMjolnir

Is your handle really 'lboucher'...? 'Cuz it should be 'ldouchebag'.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 AM on 07/21/2008
- Sixtwo See Profile I'm a Fan of Sixtwo

Like always, Obama considers the BIG PICTURE. He said to Karzai's face what he has been saying here in the US (behind his back?). Just because he bashed Karzai doesn't mean that he should flip-flop about sending additional troops just because he is now in Afgan. Karzai's "pissed looking " face may indicate that the truth hurts! What is significant is the fact that Obama told Karzai that he must put forth more effort/resources on his country's own behalf.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 PM on 07/20/2008
- AbolishTheFed See Profile I'm a Fan of AbolishTheFed

o considers how to betray us as deeply as possible while getting the s c h m u c k s to defend him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 AM on 07/21/2008
- oscartucker See Profile I'm a Fan of oscartucker

All of your comments are bitter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 PM on 07/20/2008
- Oilygarch See Profile I'm a Fan of Oilygarch

Though he may have, please notice that they are indeed still speaking.

Herein, the lines of accountability seem quite blurry.

And the reason why Karzai no longer sports a tan and looks as pasty-white as citizen Mac is because he has survived like 7 assassination attempts / near misses, so he hasn't been opting much for the great outdoors as of late. When the US invades and occupies a country, and topples its military rule, who is responsible for providing the initial security detail to the succeeding government?

Also, my feel is that Obama will offer Karzai options for greater autonomy and sovereignty than did our present Admin.

When the presence of an occupier is overbearing, it can have a castrating effect on matters of sovereignty and empowerment. As it stood until now, and with our overwhelming supreme and vertically organized presence it was really not Karzai's war to be won. My sense is that Karzai will be drawn upon more now as a significant contributor to paving the way to a better future for Afghanistan.

-must admit that they both look like poster-material for GQ.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 PM on 07/20/2008
- oscartucker See Profile I'm a Fan of oscartucker

Your vision must be blurred; no one looked "pissed and pained". If he did look "pissed and pained" to you, maybe it's because Karzai realizes that this is a leader who is going to require that the Afghanis "do something". It is possible to have knowledgeable opinions and ideas about a place before going there. Senators are briefed and given information. And as for Obama beating the drum for more troops, McCain must have heard the drum and got on the same beat all of a sudden.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 PM on 07/20/2008
- DeeV See Profile I'm a Fan of DeeV

Obama looks so Presidential. No offense to McCain- but McCain looked like an old joker in that red cap when he was in Iraq. In addition to that, Liberman whispering sth in his ear when he was making that Sunni mistakes. That made him look so out of touch.

In my opinion- I think Obama did the right thing by inviting media people and releasing such pictures with other world leaders. After all, this is politics- and image matters in politics...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 07/20/2008
- jupitor See Profile I'm a Fan of jupitor

I cannot believe with in days Prim minister Maliki in iraq is on the same wave length as obama in what direction they should go in Iraq, and even more of a shock the Afgahanastan president Karzai flls right in line with Obama in what is needed there! Seems Obama has been right all along with in what direction these countrys need to move! This is the man that was suppose to not have experience, and so nieve he didn't know what he was talking about. And while Obama was looking,acting and being presidential in Iraq and Afganastan-------This administration actually stole Obama's plans to have direct talk Irans, and mccain called Obama nieve over this plan to! Seems to me all the good plans, and good direction solveing programs are comeing Directly to Senator Barack Obama! My hat is off to him, and to say at this point, "Yes, he can", and at this point, 'Yes , he is".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 07/20/2008
- berrycooda See Profile I'm a Fan of berrycooda

Can't understand why B. Obama is trying to act like he is the U.S President. If, as he said, his main
purpose was to see the troops, he spent a lot of time in Afghanistan saying most of the things that
have already bben said to the leaders in that country. Seems like time that could have been spent with our troops.
If the Dem. President B. Clinton would have done something about Bin Laden in the nineties when he had a chance, we wouldn't have to be at war in Afghanistan and B. Obama wouldn't be trying to do
something that our current Pres. has already done.....

Please get your own agenda.....quit copying....most of us do follow the news.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 07/20/2008
- oscartucker See Profile I'm a Fan of oscartucker

If GWB had done something about Bin Laden when he had the chance, we wouldn't be in Iraq and all would be settled in Afghanistan. You say, " . . . and B. Obama wouldn't be trying to do something that our current Pres. has already done. . . " What is it that Bush has already done? Made a mess, joked around, had no clue. . . who wants to copy such an agenda!?!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 07/20/2008
- DrFitz See Profile I'm a Fan of DrFitz

So you'd rather have him snub Karzai? That could actually be dangerous in undermining the guy, who's got a rather fragile grip on power in Afghanistan. Stop with cheap shots that make no sense.

As for copying agendas, who's leading and who's following? That's just a laughable point, especially after the last couple weeks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 07/20/2008
- Obama08Supporter See Profile I'm a Fan of Obama08Supporter

It sure doesn't seem like you follow the news. Maybe you should move to Afgan or Iraq and get some up close and personal info. Exactly what has our current president done? He spent the time he wanted to spend with the troops, they are not the only important people in Afgan or Iraq, I would think that the leaders of these countries would be offended to have him visit and not spend anytime with them. Maybe it's ok for your mom to visit your sister or brother two minutes away and never come to visit you. Maybe you will feel great about that?

Obama is the man in 2008

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:52 PM on 07/20/2008
- barackobama4prez See Profile I'm a Fan of barackobama4prez

He looks like he's already president! I look forward to being able to listen to this man speak after years of flipping the channel when goofy Dubya is on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 07/20/2008
- Agnim See Profile I'm a Fan of Agnim

The goals for Afghanistan-Pakistan should be quite simple:

1. Disarm every last Taleban and their apologists.

2. Expel every last foreigner insane islamist back to their home country (Arabian Peninsula, Russia, China, India, EU, Indonesia, US, etc etc)

3. Close every last madrassa.

4. All Afghan children and children in Pakistan's Bad Lands henceforth should have PRIMARILY secular education. The generations of brainwashing to islamic violence, vengeance and barbarism must end.

5. Make no-man's-land a 50 miles region within Pakistan going away from the Afghan border.
All males over 16 years are excluded from this area until all Taleban and their apologists are DISARMED!

6. Partner with the EU, Russia, China, India to wipe the area clean of the insane islamists; because the area is the breeding ground for the maniac muslims who have been targeting those states.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 PM on 07/20/2008
- qdog112 See Profile I'm a Fan of qdog112

Sounds like you and Lou Dobbs came up with this plan.

It takes care of all the fanatical islamists, but nothing about the nutty Christians.

I find your plan shallow and an extension of the Bush doctrine. You don't want to know what I think of Bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 PM on 07/20/2008
- obiter See Profile I'm a Fan of obiter

Not only are these propositions impossible to implement because the amount of resources required vastly exceeds what the leaders involved would be willing to pledge, but brandishing all Islamic education as brain-washing fundamentalism and assuming that the millions of people living in the tribal areas are somehow connected to terrorism would lead to condescending policies that would be rejected by both the Afghan and Pakistani governments.

We must remember that it is the Saudi funding of Islamist schools throughout the region that is breeding these terrorists - funding that comes directly from their oil sales to US SUV and Pick-Up drivers. So next time you get into that SUV to go to the mall or to buy a carton of milk, just remember the terrorists you are indirectly funding.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 PM on 07/20/2008
- RTIII See Profile I'm a Fan of RTIII


Not bad. You should be in the state department!
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 07/20/2008
- msirt See Profile I'm a Fan of msirt

Problem I have with this article is: Did Oboma himself use the "war on terror" terminology, or are the framers of the story calling it that?

Because if Obama is calling it that, I'd be severely disappointed in him. That's Bush's terminology, which needs a thorough re-framing by our next president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 PM on 07/20/2008
- eden4barack08 See Profile I'm a Fan of eden4barack08

All these replies, and nobody answered the question anyway. NO Obama did not use "war on terror"
terminology himself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 AM on 07/21/2008
- Scarllatti See Profile I'm a Fan of Scarllatti

Don't worry. We will give it the appropriate "terminology" when the time comes. We will yank out anything Bush. Folks will be confused if Obama calls it by any other name for now. We need to remove the "Terror" in our lives.

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