Is Obama Following Gore and Kerry and Keeping His Distance from Bill Clinton?

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Despite the harsh words that passed between 42 and the man who would be 44, Obama has said publicly that there is no one -- except, perhaps, Hillary -- whom he would rather have campaign for him than the former president. Really?

In 2000, Al Gore shunned Bill Clinton, and, in 2004, John Kerry followed suit, albeit more subtly. Hillraiser Susie Tompkins Buell told me when I interviewed her for Clinton in Exile, my book on Clinton's post presidency, that she received a phone call from Senator Hillary Clinton as election day 2004 approached: "I'm really worried....They [Kerry and his team] haven't' called us to help them."

Bill, for one, was otherwise engaged. He was, in a sense, campaigning for his own legacy that summer as he promoted his memoir, My Life. It was no surprise to anyone who knew Bill that he missed his publisher's deadline, and so his book was released in June 2004. Hitting the speech and talk show circuit, he stole a piece of the limelight from John Kerry. Then Clinton's emergency bypass surgery on Labor Day, 2004 forced the former president to the sidelines, until late October when Clinton appeared at a rousing Kerry rally in Philadelphia. By then the Massachusetts senator was headed for defeat.

Now comes "The Proper Use of Bill and Hillary Clinton" from Derek Shearer, a close friend of Bill's since Oxford days with a tangle of personal and family ties to both Clintons. The ties are so intimate that it strikes me that Shearer, today a professor at Occidental College, is not simply speaking his own mind in his Huffington Post, but the Clintons' minds as well, when he warns Obama to recognize immediately that the Clintons are the key to his victory. If Obama fails to unite the party -- the Clintons are the superglue -- he could hand the election to John McCain by losing, Shearer writes, "enough working class white votes and perhaps female votes...to be defeated...in such swing states as Michigan, Florida and Ohio."

Shearer almost scolds Obama for not pouncing immediately on bringing "Bill and Hillary Clinton in from the cold" and making them "essential parts of the fall campaign." Obama "waited almost until the last minute to put in his first call to [Bill] Clinton," Shearer writes. He depicts Bill as acting like a mensh, responding with "warm words, letting the hurts of the primary be bygones." (That was not how others described the conversation in which Obama came off as the supplicant and Bill as cold and sulky) Shearer adds that Obama has "not followed up on that lone call with Bill who is already sending signals in the press that he has not heard from Obama nor from the campaign."

Shearer is equally enthusiastic about Hillary: "She demonstrated an ability to motivate not just females, but most importantly, the white working class base of the Democratic Party." After the meeting between the two rivals at Senator Diane Feinstein's house, Shearer reports, Barack and Hillary have not been talking. (How does he know this or the other insider bit in the paragraph above; did Hillary and/or Bill or Sid Blumenthal tell him?) "Obama should be talking to Hillary every week about the campaign," Shearer adds, "and making clear to her that he wants her and her husband fully engaged come the fall."

Shearer suggests giving each of the Clintons a plane and dispatching them into the "battleground states" to campaign. Leaving the Clintons "on the sidelines," Shearer writes, is a "monumental mistake." The message, he concludes, is, "Yes, we Can -- but not without the Clintons."

It seems likely to me that the Clintons are speaking through Derek Shearer, a trusted friend who worked in Clinton's 1992 campaign as an economics adviser, on the transition, in Clinton's commerce department, and as Clinton's Ambassador to Finland. Derek's sister Brooke is a close-since-college Hillary friend and traveled with Hillary full-time during the 1992 campaign. Later she headed Hillary's White House Fellows program and became a senior advisor to the Interior Department.

Wait there's more! Brooke is married to Strobe Talbott, formerly Time magazine's DC bureau chief and foreign affairs columnist. Strobe and Bill were Rhodes Scholars together and roommates at Oxford. Talbott went on to serve in the Clinton administration as the president's special advisor on Russia and as deputy secretary of state.

Finally -- actually there's much more. but I don't want to send readers into a panic at this post's length -- Derek, Brooke, and Cody are the children of the late Lloyd Shearer who, for more than 30 years, wrote "Walter Scott's Personality Parade for Parade magazine. Lloyd also became a FOB and erected a sign over his guest house, "Bill Clinton Slept here."

Stanley Sheinbaum, a Hollywood activist and fundraiser told me that it was Derek Shearer who, in the late 1980s, first brought the eager Arkansas Governor Bill Clinton over to meet Sheinbaum and his wife Betty, daughter of studio magnate Harry Warner. The Sheinbaums were then at the top of the Hollywood left; Stanley was routinely described as a "democratic kingmaker."

Two of the Shearers -- Derek and Cody -- are friends of former journalist turned super-Clinton-loyalist Sidney Blumenthal. Blumenthal has the Clinton's back and their ears. No one who knows the ferocity of Blumenthal's loyalty to the Clintons would doubt that he is working double time to advance the Clintons' interests.

Obama deciding to just keep doing what he's doing -- and that does not yet include using the irrepressible and unpredictable Bill Clinton as a surrogate -- would not serve those interests. For the Clintons, the worst possible outcome is to watch Obama win without their help.

 
 

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- RapidRay See Profile I'm a Fan of RapidRay permalink

Bill and Hil are beginning to sound like the forlorn leaders of some disenfranchised, cultish, fringe, wacko, political splinter group.
Let's bring Big Al (the jolly green giant) Gore to the fore. Yes he lost by the hair of his chinny, chin, chin but he has resurrected himself as a world prophet with Nobel qualities.He could be Obama's Obi-wan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 07/26/2008
- Freesia2 See Profile I'm a Fan of Freesia2 permalink

There are variables that have to be figured in. Variables that weren't in place with the other two candidates. Beginning with the fact that Obama just beat Bill Clinton's wife in a primary. And that Bill's wife is on record for an early 2008 conversation with Bill Richardson "He can't win Bill. He can't win". I'm going to assume her own Bill shared the belief.

Resentment, brinksmanship, ambition and party loyalty all bubbling and brewing. It could be that Obama is just waiting to see which emotion is going to lead Bill's actions. I think he's wise to be a little cautious.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 07/23/2008
- pottylikearockstar See Profile I'm a Fan of pottylikearockstar permalink

Didn't Barack drop out of Occidental College and go on a walking tour of Indonesia with a friend before returning to the US to go to school at Harvard?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 07/23/2008
- Freesia2 See Profile I'm a Fan of Freesia2 permalink

I believe he attended Occidental for a couple of years at the beginning of the '80s and then transferred to Columbia. I'm not sure when he went to Indonesia. But yes, he did 2 years at Occidental.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 07/23/2008
- allonfla See Profile I'm a Fan of allonfla permalink

The fact that they are sooo close as you claim makes me doubt the article even more. He looks like just one more diehard hillary fan trying to make her the VP.

Stop, Stop STOP comparing Obama to Gore and Kerry. If you pay attention to his campaign you will see he is doing a lot things that they DID NOT! Obama ain't dumb and he is not so cocky to believe that the Clintons would not help him win in November.

These articles are getting really tired!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 07/23/2008
- Krikkit See Profile I'm a Fan of Krikkit permalink

Does it matter? Unlike Gore and Kerry, Obama doesn't need Bill. Also unlike G and K, Bill spend a lot of airtime attacking Obama on behalf of his wife. Different dynamic altogether.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 07/23/2008
- DennyCrane See Profile I'm a Fan of DennyCrane permalink

No one trusts the Clintons. They can pretend to want to help others, but everyone knows they want to be the center of attention. Gore's mistake wasn't in distancing himself from Clinton but rather from the prosperity of the 90s. His campaign boiled down to "I'm my own man" when it should've been "Are you better off now that you were 8 years ago and if so, vote for me." As for Kerry, they had every reason not to trust the Clintons. Bill and Hillary were reluctant to campaign for Kerry and even threw in their own spoiler in the person of Wes Clark. The plan was always to have Hillary run in 2008, but if Kerry won, that would derail everything. Kerry winning in 04 and serving 2 terms would put Edwards next in line in 2012. I bet when Kerry lost, Hillary was the happiest person in America. Too bad she was too arrogant to see Obama coming.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 07/23/2008
- TeriMcCarthy See Profile I'm a Fan of TeriMcCarthy permalink

The glue that holds the democratic party together? Hmm, well we were a party before the Clinton's and we will be after the Clinton's.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 AM on 07/23/2008
- America08 See Profile I'm a Fan of America08 permalink

It is really sad that the Clinton's are not more involved in Obama's campaign. I do remember that Gore and Kerry distance themselves from Bill. But as I recall, I thought it was because of the Monica scandel. However, I think we have moved on and Bill would be a great asset. Something is really strange with the Clinton's and the Democratic party. I don't think many like them (hence the flood of Superdelegates to Obama). Are they difficult to work with? Maybe they don't have good personalities. It is just weird.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 AM on 07/23/2008
- meanguy See Profile I'm a Fan of meanguy permalink

well, running away from bill clinton certainly helped president gore get elected, right?????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 AM on 07/23/2008
- JimR See Profile I'm a Fan of JimR permalink

It helped him win the popular vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 07/23/2008
- Michale32086 See Profile I'm a Fan of Michale32086 permalink

Senator Obama has so much more going for him than Al Gore..

Granted, that doesn't say very much considering.....

But it's none the less a fact...

Senator Obama is 20 times the leader than Al Gore ever could HOPE to be...

Michale.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 PM on 07/23/2008
- Michale32086 See Profile I'm a Fan of Michale32086 permalink

The Clintons are the past...

They can only harm Obama's presidential campaign...

Which is probably EXACTLY what they want to do...

Obama doesn't need the Clintons...

This country doesn't need the Clintons.

The Clintons time is past...

Michale.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 AM on 07/23/2008
- meanguy See Profile I'm a Fan of meanguy permalink

yeah, who wants a reminder of democratic electoral success? better to stick with kerry and gore and dukakis...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 AM on 07/23/2008
- Michale32086 See Profile I'm a Fan of Michale32086 permalink

You mean Hillary Clinton's "democratic electoral success"???

Is that the "democratic electoral success" you are referring to?? Because that is the latest success that the Clintons can show...

What?? Yer thinking 1992?? Ancient history... Bill Clinton ruined ANY chance of a meaningful legacy from the 1990s with his shameful recent performances..

The Clintons can only hurt Obama. They represent the past... Senator Obama is about the future...

Michale.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 PM on 07/23/2008
- wakupmagy See Profile I'm a Fan of wakupmagy permalink


If Bill Clinton can "help" Obama as much as he helped his wife's campaign, maybe the sidelines are where he belongs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 07/22/2008
- Michale32086 See Profile I'm a Fan of Michale32086 permalink

Truer words were never spoken...

Michale.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 PM on 07/23/2008
- ohmercy See Profile I'm a Fan of ohmercy permalink

This seems like a rather appropriate place to post this.

Cass Sunstein is an accomplished and experience, a colleague of Obama at UofC for 10years. He is now an adviser of Obama. He seems to be scary smart.
The following comes from an interview in theNation.

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Q. "What dynamics are at work with Hillary Clinton, the way she's treated...?"

A. Cass Sunstein: "I think she has been turned into a cartoon by people who dislike her, and the cartoon really does involve an information cascade. There are things said about her character, her conduct, her plans, which have no basis. Once they start circulating they start being widely believed. Even if the particular fact isn't believed, there's a kind of odor that its dissemination produces.

There are legitimate questions that can be raised about anybody. The polarization with respect to her has something to do with her, but has a lot more to do with how information travels. An empirical answer would involve work that I haven't done. But, offhand, talk radio, Fox News and some parts of the blogosphere are responsible for the cartoonization of Hillary Clinton.

It's always easier to spread a simple story than a complicated story. With politics and with products, if there's a simple narrative that can take hold, it's very powerful. The people who hate Hillary Clinton have a narrative of her that is hateful, and the simplicity of it allows it to travel."

Get it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 07/22/2008
- wizened See Profile I'm a Fan of wizened permalink

I'm not sure I get it. Do you mena to say that Hillary is demonized successfully by her detractors because a simple story is easy for people to accdept and believe, and that what the detractors say isn't true, or you saying that it doesn't matter whether what is swaid is true or not, people wo dislike Hillary Clinton should be discredited in their comments because of the fact they dislike her? Perhaps the reason they dislike her has something to do with issues with her character and behavior. Or is that a simple story that should be discounted because it is not complicated? What exactly is it you mean to say?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 AM on 07/23/2008
- Marlyn See Profile I'm a Fan of Marlyn permalink

"Obama has not followed up on that lone call with Bill who is already sending signals" ???

Perhaps Obama is not yet ready, since Bill Clinton said "Obama will have to kiss my ass."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 07/22/2008
- strangelet See Profile I'm a Fan of strangelet permalink

Yeah. Well, for the rest of us Democrats, the worst possible outcome would be for Obama to lose. Almost everything I have read about 2000 says that if Al could have overcome his distaste for Bill's personal disorders, and used him actively (which Bill would for sure have jumped at -- Al would have been part of Bill's legacy), he would have won handily. In Kerry's case, it might not have made so much difference.

Your extended analysis of friends of friends of acquaintences of friends of Bill is probably dead accurate. I'm sure the Clintons are trying, indirectly, to pressure the Obama campaign to involve them more explicitly, and I'm sure ego plays a part in this.

However, there are a good many folks that still remember Bill Clinton fondly, and the memory of the sexual stupidity has blurred some with time. I hope that Senator Obama, and his campaign strategists, do not decide (like Al Gore) that it's more important to win without the Clintons than to win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 07/22/2008
- PATina See Profile I'm a Fan of PATina permalink

I agree. There are a lot of people still 'leery' about Sen O.... but may be reassured if they see Hill and Bill ACTIVELY campaigning for him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 AM on 07/23/2008
- Miande See Profile I'm a Fan of Miande permalink

Isn't it a myth that the Clintons are vital for a Democratic victory this November? Considering Hillary's campaign, anyone would be leery of inviting them all. Also, isn't Obama a pretty good campaigner himself? The talk of the necessity of the Clintons seems to be yet another covert tactic for them to take over the Obama campaiugn and Administration. I doubt that he will fall for it. Neither should anyone else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 AM on 07/23/2008
- AlwaysforHillary See Profile I'm a Fan of AlwaysforHillary permalink

Bill and Hillary will not have to worry about watching Obama win without their help! Obama is NOT GOING TO WIN!!!! Latest CNN poll - NINE (9) MILLION HILLARY SUPPORTERS ARE NOT VOTING FOR OBAMA!!!

OBAMA IS AN ILLIGIMATE CANDIDATE WHO CANDIDACY WAS RIGGED BY DNC. HILLARY IS TRUE WINNER!!! SHE IS THE VOTER'S CHOICE!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 PM on 07/22/2008
- Siryn See Profile I'm a Fan of Siryn permalink

Rigged by the DNC... which was stacked with HER PEOPLE? That's rich. Call us when you get a clue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 07/23/2008
- PATina See Profile I'm a Fan of PATina permalink

Poor thing. You actually fell for her lies. Please familiarize yourself w/ DNC rules before making a statement like the one above. I'm sorry to have to break this down to you... The DNC has NEVER used popular vote to choose its (not the people's) nominee.

Also, what does that have to do w/ Sen O winning in November? 9 million people is a drop in the bucket of the total of eligible, registered voters... and w/ O and the DNC increasing their voter registration drives... his winning (or losing) will have little to do w/ those 9 million.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 07/23/2008
- wizened See Profile I'm a Fan of wizened permalink

you must be smoking something illegal. To say he was an illegitimate canditate and that his cadidacy was rigged by the DNC is just bizarre. The primary is over> Move on unless you want four more years of Republican elitist rule.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 AM on 07/23/2008
- MissT See Profile I'm a Fan of MissT permalink

What voters are you talking about? The democrats are supporting Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 PM on 07/22/2008
- Marlyn See Profile I'm a Fan of Marlyn permalink

"RIGGED BY DNC" ???

That's funny. Actually, the DNC is not that powerful.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 07/22/2008
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