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McCain's Surge Gaffe Actually Acknowledged On MSNBC

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July 24, 2008 11:40 AM


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A perfect example of how badly the media muddies the water when it comes to the Iraq War occurred in the late morning on MSNBC. At around 11:40, Contessa Brewer took up one of the key issues that those Cheeto-eating bloggers have been completely on top of: namely, John McCain's inability to articulate any sort of coherent foreign policy, mainly because it's all built on facts he doesn't completely understand and strategies whose failures he has to furtively labor to keep obscure.

Remarkably, Brewer actually took discussed McCain's recent lapse on the conditions on the ground that were contemporaneous to the beginning of the "Surge." Brewer reported that McCain's remark failed to "align with the facts," and then went on to get the basics of those facts exactly right.

Really, I was so excited that MSNBC was even covering this matter that I felt like leading everyone in one of those "slow clap" scenes from bad movies where one guy starts clapping and soon everyone in the room breaks into applause. Sure, there was a little equivocation ("McCain may have gotten it wrong."), but I was willing to look past it, because it looked like Brewer was just setting up the shot for another on-air personage to bang home.

Unfortunately, the other person in the room was Jonathan Capehart, who immediately busted out his broken down hurdy-gurdy and started to crank:

It may have been a mistake but let's keep in mind Senator McCain has always been about the Surge. The Surge is working. The Surge is what's made Iraq safer and what made it possible for Senator Obama to take the trip that he did earlier this week. So I think what Senator McCain is trying to do is plant the seed of doubt in voters' minds that Senator Obama is up to the task...

Really? You "think" McCain may want to "plant the seed of doubt in voter's minds" about Obama? I'm sure that Capehart used all of his reportorial expertise to almost reach that painfully obvious conclusion.

Things trended downhill from there.

...now everyone is pointing out that maybe Senator McCain has the facts wrong, it now plays into the narrative. The story line that Senator McCain has a little trouble remembering little details.

Capehart goes on to cite a couple of McCain's gaffes, and suggests, again, with amazing trenchant analysis, that Obama and McCain are "both trying to get at each other." But he's really badly missed the point here. If the "storyline" is that "McCain has a little trouble remembering little details," then we're all in trouble, because the storyline should be that McCain is saddled with trying to win on Bush's failed war strategy, and so he's stuck in a box, endlessly insisting that the limited success of the "Surge" can be used to cancel out major national security failures. The narrative should be that John McCain lacks a cogent foreign policy framework to make America safe.

Capehart goes on to cheerfully utter that "the average voter isn't paying attention to this much detail," that "maybe" McCain "got facts wrong," that (again with the painfully, stupidly obvious observations!) Obama and McCain "are having a fight," and, appallingly, that "foreign policy is Senator McCain's strength." At that point, Contessa Brewer finally attempted to fight back and end the segment, saying, "Conventional wisdom had it it was his strength but we'll see how this goes."

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But Capehart actually jumps back in, fighting to get in an insistent last word:

Right but it is his strength. You get Senator McCain off the Surge and off the war and onto the economy and he's in quicksand. He loves having this debate on foreign policy even though it doesn't look like it's a winner for him.

The problem here is this naive, incorrect, zombie-drool assertion that foreign policy is McCain's strength rules the day amid mounting evidence that there is actually no facet of contemporary foreign policy on which McCain seems to be even nominally conversant.

I don't know where this shooting gallery is where all these reporters are getting their regular doses of Surge Logic(TM), but if we want to change the "narrative" to something that better comports with reality, someone needs to find it and BTMFD.

[WATCH.]

BREWER: It may not jump out at you but McCain's assertion there doesn't align with the facts. Colonel McFarland actually said the Anbar Awakening began in the fall of 2006. When Sunni tribes decided to start fighting al Qaeda. And the Surge did not begin until months later. Meaning McCain may have gotten it wrong. Jonathan Capehart is a editorial writer for The Washington Post. Is it a gaffe? A mistake? Was it intentional spin?


CAPEHART: It may have been a mistake but let's keep in mind Senator McCain has always been about the Surge. The Surge is working. The Surge is what's made Iraq safer and what made it possible for Senator Obama to take the trip that he did earlier this week. So I think what Senator McCain is trying to do is plant the seed of doubt in voters' minds that Senator Obama is up to the task, one of being president and two of leading a country at war but the problem that he has when he says, you know, that Senator Obama has the facts wrong and now everyone is pointing out that maybe Senator McCain has the facts wrong, it now plays into the narrative. The story line that Senator McCain has a little trouble remembering little details. We saw the Sunni versus Shiite problem he had with Senator Lieberman walking up to him reminding him he got it backwards. And then you also have the gaffe he made confusing Somalia and Sudan. There are all these little things that make people wonder if Senator McCain is all there. The Obama campaign earlier on would use words like Senator McCain is confused or he's lost his bearings. They are both trying to get at each other.

BREWER: Barack Obama has been asked about McCain's fighting back on this whole Surge thing and Obama has said, look, I'm not going to criticize my opponent while I'm here on foreign soil. I'm not going to it on this trip. Are we splitting hairs when we're parsing the meaning of these words? These two are really focusing on the details. Did Barack Obama support the surge? Now he says we're glad the Surge coincided with this standing up by Sunni leaders and all worked together and all of it together is a success. Is the average voter going to be paying attention to this kind of detail?

CAPEHART: The average voter probably isn't paying attention to this much detail, but when you look at the larger context here, you have Senator McCain saying that Senator Obama got facts wrong when everyone is pointing out that maybe Senator McCain was the one who got facts wrong. Also, they are having a fight. Obama and McCain on foreign policy. Foreign policy is Senator McCain's strength. Even with the war --

BREWER: Conventional wisdom had it it was his strength but we'll see how this goes.

CAPEHART: Right but it is his strength. You get Senator McCain off the Surge and off the war and onto the economy and he's in quicksand. He loves having this debate on foreign policy even though it doesn't look like it's a winner for him.


A perfect example of how badly the media muddies the water when it comes to the Iraq War occurred in the late morning on MSNBC. At around 11:40, Contessa Brewer took up one of the key issues that tho...
A perfect example of how badly the media muddies the water when it comes to the Iraq War occurred in the late morning on MSNBC. At around 11:40, Contessa Brewer took up one of the key issues that tho...
 
 

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- sueno See Profile I'm a Fan of sueno permalink

Citizens of this country are seeking truth and guidance from the candidates,
when McCain misspeaks and does so repeatedly the press should make note of it.
Bush lied thoroughout his presidency and received support from the mass media,
this time they should get it right! ('cause last time they sold us out)
We don't need another manchurian candidate programmed and committed
to big oil, big corporations, and tax cuts for the top 2% of this country.
Lastly, McCain is old! yes , I said it, OLD!
and when that happens not everything works properly, and that's a fact of life-

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 PM on 07/28/2008
- bekc123 See Profile I'm a Fan of bekc123 permalink

MSNBC has been doing a great job of reporting these days. I watch, too much, I'm sure, and they really seem to be trying to get all sides in. I think it is much better than CNN.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 AM on 07/28/2008
- nerakami See Profile I'm a Fan of nerakami permalink

I agree... CNN is as off base and bias as Faux News.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 07/28/2008
- bluesjones63 See Profile I'm a Fan of bluesjones63 permalink

On what PLANET does Jonathan Capehart live? Who are his friends? With whom does he "engage" in conversations? Is his world-view limited by being AWED by his associations with other OUT-OF-TOUCH members of the WASHINGTON POST editorial board?

Who is Jonathan Capehart ? Has he sold his soul?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 07/26/2008
- Wildcatdiva See Profile I'm a Fan of Wildcatdiva permalink

oh and don't think brewer is no great defender of 0, cause she's not. she just had the job of trying to be objective that day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:27 PM on 07/27/2008
- Wildcatdiva See Profile I'm a Fan of Wildcatdiva permalink

he's a handkerchief head wearing worm. he knows it too, many of us has made sure of it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 07/27/2008
- rudiy See Profile I'm a Fan of rudiy permalink

The pundits do not to say it more, Obama needs to say it more a drive it home. They want him to appologize, he should ask McCain to do the same. The facts are public record. It could be an add to show who actually was listening to what was happening, so who knows more about foriegn ploicy .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 07/26/2008
- AshevilleVoice See Profile I'm a Fan of AshevilleVoice permalink

Gawd, can the MSM get any more inept???? Whatever happened to just reporting the facts, ie, McCain made some seriously naive and uninformed comments regarding the Surge. FACT: his credibility on foreign policy is crumbling.

What's the point of having someone state "the other point of view", when the other point of view is pure fiction???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 07/26/2008
- rose london See Profile I'm a Fan of rose london permalink

Asheville Voice. I agree totally. McCain is showing early signs of DEMENTIA. My proffession in this area is right on point. To find out if I am wrong, Please listen to any questions posed to Mccain and listen to his responses. You will note that he is very repetitive and finds it difficult to answear succitly or stay on a particular line of questioning. His answears are all over the place. Imagine how he would be communcating with World leaders. He even blinks like christmas lights.
Is this man fit enough to represent USA in the World.?. His school marks should be presented to the Americans and obama's too as it appears Mccain is not well educated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 07/28/2008
- genia See Profile I'm a Fan of genia permalink

Good post...I soooo agree.
I say this all the time....The left needs some pundants out there that are quick thinking ...sharp
We have these slow passive....I dunno...........................
I mean...they are good folk...maybe too good. We need some slick reps out there. We need to organize with the talking points...like they do. How hard can that be? We need to do something because IMO we look like our heart's not in it out there defending our candidate.
lamb...lion thing.

I actually stopped watching the cable news channels because this was just too hard to look at...I could feel my BP rise...I wanted to hurt people...lol...that and the.... UN believable bad coverage of the news.

Also.....we really should be thanking Contessa Brewer for her bravery..lol Thanks Contessa, I appreciate your intelligent, honest effort...please.....keep it up!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 07/25/2008
- Robgardella See Profile I'm a Fan of Robgardella permalink

Is anyone else yawning over this topic?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 07/25/2008
- InofTouch See Profile I'm a Fan of InofTouch permalink

No love for Contessa Brewer

I find it funny that only Keith and Rachel get the credit for when ever someone else in the MSNBC station stand up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 AM on 07/25/2008
- CtJean See Profile I'm a Fan of CtJean permalink

As long somebody reports it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 07/25/2008
- ebonyjsg See Profile I'm a Fan of ebonyjsg permalink

The only reason people give credit to McCain for being on top of foreign policy is because he was in the military! People please don't be fulled General Clark was right about McCain! McCain is not fit to be commander-in-chief! McCain is out of touch and lacks wisdon or judgement!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 AM on 07/25/2008
- XME See Profile I'm a Fan of XME permalink

There's one other reason people give credit to McCain for being on top of foreign policy: because the MSM doesn't do it's job and actually cover the MANY times he's shown how clueless he actually is! None of his severe screw-ups EVER get covered on the 6 PM news, and you can bet that's the only thing "low information" voters watch! Sadly, people believe what they hear on the news, and never think they may NOT be hearing important news the media opted not to cover. Surprising to me, considering we've already been duped by the MSM at least one, on the events leading up to the invasion of Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 07/25/2008
- rosal See Profile I'm a Fan of rosal permalink

The surge will improve the economy. The surge will provide us with health care. The surge will give us jobs. The surge will stop foreclosures. The surge will bring oil prices down. The surge will stop global warming.
Signed
John McConfused

Maybe the surge will help me to learn several languages, and teach me how to sing. Maybe if I concentrate on the surge my life will improve in all aspects and I'll be happy for ever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 AM on 07/25/2008
- Witchitalineman See Profile I'm a Fan of Witchitalineman permalink

Go Keith. I don't miss any of your programs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 AM on 07/25/2008
- Sparty1 See Profile I'm a Fan of Sparty1 permalink

I don't know if anyone said this earlier, but Jonathan Capeheart has to be one of the slowest pundits on news today. I can't stand when he comes on. He's so obvious in his lack of knowledge. I just have to turn the t.v. before I pull every hair out of my head.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 AM on 07/25/2008
- tel8034 See Profile I'm a Fan of tel8034 permalink

He's just another in the line of black Republicans the MSM has on tap to be able to go after Obama, without being called racist.

The MSM believe there can't be any backlash if it's black on black bashing.

Jonathan has a great command of the english language, and he's probably a great writer, but he is obviously a Republican, and that's what shapes his distorted view.

It's not that he has a lack of knowledge ................. It's just that there isn't much a Republican can actually say to defend their party and their candidate..................... But I guess they have to make an attempt even though they know that they will end up looking and sounding stupid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 AM on 07/25/2008
- NotMcCain See Profile I'm a Fan of NotMcCain permalink

At least they'll all still have jobs if Obama wins.

If McCain wins, you'll never see them again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 AM on 07/28/2008
- vshdst See Profile I'm a Fan of vshdst permalink

i hate to say it for obvious reasons, but you're right.

sad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 07/25/2008
- drayntx See Profile I'm a Fan of drayntx permalink

wait i'm confused (lost my bearings?)... is this guy a mc cain supporter or not?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 AM on 07/25/2008
- Ivar See Profile I'm a Fan of Ivar permalink

Foreign policy his strong point? He does not know where countries are on the map. (afghanistan Pakistan border when there is none. ) He would wind up bombing our allies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 AM on 07/25/2008
- HatingTheGame See Profile I'm a Fan of HatingTheGame permalink

Actually he said Afghanistan and Iraq, not Pakistan. Afghanistan and Pakistan do share a border.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 AM on 07/25/2008
- CtJean See Profile I'm a Fan of CtJean permalink

We know what he meant. Right, I v a r?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 AM on 07/25/2008
- anpu See Profile I'm a Fan of anpu permalink

Actually John "I know absolutely nothing" McCain was talking about the imaginary border between Iraq and Pakistan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 AM on 07/25/2008
- cunuck See Profile I'm a Fan of cunuck permalink

McCain does not have any credibility as a potential "Commander in Chief". All his decisions have been after the fact. He has shown zero ability in come up with a coherent strategy after dropping the bombs. This is the same scenario that has plagued the neocon controlled Bush administration to this very day.

Vote McCain and you can flush the US.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 PM on 07/24/2008
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