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Way more Iraqi died during the surge.
More Iraqi are dying since the surge than before the surge.
dead people are so peaceful.
Given the McCains repeatetive claims, I thought the war was over. The scuiced killers didn't know it was over. They need fox tv over there.
Guys can't have a moment to themselves these days not even terrorists apparently.
The continuation of female suicide bombers has its roots in poverty, social deprivation, lack of education and widespread unemployment, making women vulnerable for recruitment by terrorist groups.
Many Iraqi widows and divorcees are left without an economically secure living. Social welfare is inadequate for the large number of impoverished women. For some it becomes an escape from the despair of living in a desperately bleak situation.
Well heck, if all they need is a welfare state, why not send Obama and gang over there and show them how it's done.
According to the Israelis, the emergence of female suicide bombers against Israeli targets is thought to be due to increased success at identifying and interdicting the male suicide bombers.
Also male bombers are a finite political resource and they tend to die early in their military careers.
Listen to the song "Tender Mercies" by Eliza Gilkensen.
Two things -- how does anyone know that it was a "female" "suicide" bomber? How do they reconstruct the crime scene so quickly? Who decides? Who investigates?
Uhhh, eyewitnesses?
Didn't see any named or cited in the article...
Marked as favorite for showing magnificent common sense.
the US soldiers are sitting around in their rooms with air conditioning
on watching DVDs, reading books, laying low. The Iraqi soldiers are
doing the security work. The only time the US soldiers do security
work is when something really bad happens. Our soldiers should
come home now.
Not without the OIL.
What I'd like to know is how McCain plans to have "Victory" in this war. We're not fighting a army under Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, etc...We are fighting civilians who don't want us occupying their country, their holy land...16 year olds being recruited out of their shared sentiments on our occupations of their land, strapping bombs to themselves or to vehicles and committing suicide while taking out other Iraqi civilians/soliders as well as our own. You can not "Win" a war against a country where the enemy is the people themselves against our occupation, 70+ percent of Iraqi's want us out, the american citizens want us out of Iraq....Even the Iraqi parliament wants us out...
It's about time we left Iraq to their people, and withdraw to fix our own major problems in the US. It will truly be a sad day if McCain is elected president.
But I thought the surge was a success? Oh, I guess as long as Iraqis are getting killed then that's how a Repug defines success.
No, that's how your Democratic champion defines success. As far as he's concerned the job is/was already over.
"the surge is working" sounds suspiciously like "stay the course". When are all these extra surge soldiers coming home, or getting some relief from their extended tours? In the end, it's just another republican catchphrase that isn't true.
wow. GO ladies!
Desite Republicans denying the fact, is Iraq going to descend into another Vietnam, with "Us" killing X of the"Them", "Them" killing Y of "Us", and "Them" killing Z of "Themselves"? Pure body counts.
Oh, and for good measure let's throw in Us attacking Iran. For Iran, read Laos and Cambodia.
For "US" read the USA and its friends, real or imagined.
For "Them" read Iraqis and their friends, real or imaginary.
Any pro Surge folks want to give me non us military link that indicates there really has been a significant decrease in deaths in Iraq? Iraqi deaths are up since the surge.
So How can "violence" be down if more Iraqis are dying?
Iraqi casualties are up.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9150
Your GlobalResearch article reads like a Sy Hersh piece.
From the article:
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"The U.S. military benefits from hiding the real totals," said a political analyst ...
The report published in The Lancet did not take into account many circumstances of death, say residents in Baquba...
"All people know that a large number of bodies are dropped into the Diyala river," said a local resident. ...
An officer at the directorate-general of police for Diyala province said ...
An eyewitness at the Baquba morgue spoke with IPS on condition of anonymity. ...
Many believe that the number of the dead is higher than these studies reflect ...
A policeman, speaking on condition of anonymity, told IPS that ...
...an employee at the governor's office told IPS. ...
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The only citizens named as sources in this article were Yasir al-Azawi, a 37-year-old truck driver and Ali Hussein, a local vegetable seller.
Iraqi deaths are down.
http://icasualties.org/oif/iraqideaths.aspx
Tell ya what. you give me the dates of the beginning of the surge. Then count the deaths since then. then compare that to the deaths per month for the years before the surge and during the surge. You can't just pick one month and claim violence is down. look at the graphs. It has huge fluctuations. It also takes time to revise the initial counts and not all the days are done, so this months will always be a smaller number.
Military deaths: So look at the 52 deaths in April that more then 22 of the previous months.
as to iraqi deaths:
from your link "Note: Iraqi deaths based on news reports .
This is not a definitive count.
Actual totals for Iraqi deaths are higher than the numbers recorded on this site. " .
republicans mean tremendoue war debt, dissolve of middle class dream, greed, mean spirited political spin
guess she didn't get the memo that the surge worked.
Her last words were:
" W h o . s t o l e . m y . C h a - C h a . H e e l s ? "
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