Tibetan spiritual leader the Dalai Lama, left, and U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi walk after a lunch meeting in Dharamsala, India, Friday, March 21, 2008. Pelosi, called on the world community Friday to denounce China in the wake of its crackdown in Tibet, calling the crisis "a challenge to the conscience of the world." (AP Photo/Gurinder Osan)

Nancy Pelosi Meets With Dalai Lama, Denounces China's Crackdown

GAVIN RABINOWITZ | March 21, 2008 02:00 PM EST | AP

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DHARMSALA, India — Walking arm-in-arm with the Dalai Lama, the U.S. House speaker lent her support Friday to the Tibetan cause, calling China's crackdown in Tibet "a challenge to the conscience of the world."

Rep. Nancy Pelosi was the first major foreign official to meet with the exiled Tibetan Buddhist leader since protests against Chinese rule broke out in Tibet, and she got a warm welcome in his hilltop headquarters in northern India.

"If freedom-loving people throughout the world do not speak out against China's oppression in China and Tibet, we have lost all moral authority to speak on behalf of human rights anywhere in the world," Pelosi told thousands of cheering Tibetans, including monks and schoolchildren.

Pelosi, a Democrat from California, called for an international investigation into the violence in Tibet and dismissed China's claim that the Dalai Lama was behind the unrest as making "no sense."

The Dalai Lama, who has based his exile community in Dharmsala for nearly 50 years, has urged Tibetans to refrain from violence in their protests. He also expressed dismay over assaults on Han Chinese living in Tibet, while also strongly criticizing China's tough clampdown.

After protests turned violent on March 14 in Lhasa, Tibet's capital, the Beijing government sent security forces to blanket Tibetan areas of western China and crush any unrest.

"Nothing surprises me about the use of violence on the part of the Chinese government," said Pelosi, who had scheduled a visit by her congressional delegation long before the protests broke out.

"I pray for success of the speaker of such a great nation, considered a champion of freedom, democracy and liberty," said the Dalai Lama, who draped a gold scarf around Pelosi's neck.

"Perhaps it's our karma, our fate, to be with you at such a sad time," Pelosi said.

After meeting with the Tibetan leader, Pelosi said China's government should open the restive Himalayan region to foreign journalists and independent monitors.

Rep. James Sensenbrenner of Wisconsin, the ranking Republican on the trip, also expressed his support for Tibetans.

"In the U.S. Congress, there is no division between Democrats and Republicans on the issue of protecting Tibetan culture and eliminating repression against Tibetans around the world," he said.

Hundreds of people lined the roads to the Dalai Lama's compound, some with signs saying "Thank You for Your Support" and "Long Live America-Tibet Friendship." About 2,000 more people waited in the temple's main courtyard, many waving Indian, U.S. and Tibetan flags.

Kalsing Phuntsok, 37, a teacher who was in the crowd, called Pelosi "a very good friend of Tibet."

"America has a big role to play, a very big role," he said.


 
 

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This is nothing more than a photo-op and free publicity without action.

How about senate action to boycott the Olympics in China?
Of course this hurts out athletes who have been training but it would send a strong message to the world. This could lead to other democratic countries doing the same. No US participation and
no media coverage of this event.
China would have spent millions only to lose lose face.
If we can boycott the island of Cuba, why not the repressive regime of China?
Take a real stand.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 AM on 03/22/2008

The Cuba point is excellent.

Boycott China, the Olympics and ALL THINGS CHINESE.

And I hope the world takes the same attitude with the actions/example of the US in Afghanistan and Iraq which are every bit as horrific as the actions of China and India and Russia (Chechnya) and ........

We have no illusion of moral high ground to stand on any longer, and must support the actions of the worlds other bullies, which makes our real agenda painfully clear to the rest of the world.

We are already morally bankrupt, and about to be economically bankrupt, as well.

The fact that China owns us through debit, and that we agree with using force on any weaker nation, criminally ensures our silence on Tibet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 AM on 03/23/2008

I think the world should note that India has barred international media, sustained over many years, from covering the repression in Kashmir. A democratic country?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 AM on 03/22/2008

While we are on the subject of repression in the Himalayan region and since Nancy Pelosi happens to be in India, whatever happened to the world's conscience on speaking out on India's brutal repression of the civilian population in the state of Kashmir? There has been a sustained pogram there by Indian security forces of systematic rape, custodial killings of innocents and false imprisonments. It is a case which is on the books at the United Nations as an international dispute between the governments of India and Pakistan in addition to calling for self-determination for the people of the state, which has been denied since 1948. If we are talking about Tibet, we should be also talking about Kashmir.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 AM on 03/22/2008

The difference is that the rich follow the Dalai Lama, which is why she was there. It is a sad truth about politicians.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 AM on 03/22/2008

I would add that the tragedy right now is the slaughter of Tibetans in Tibet. Can you not look at that without dragging in all the insults and baggage. Truth is..those countries have so many people that in order to control them, they kill them. Tibetans were peaceful loving people and they followed their Tibetan Budhism...and this is a horrific event. The USA failed in its "benevolence" many years ago..and know they are owned by China and Japan..there is no way they are going to do anything overt to help the country of Tibet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 AM on 03/22/2008

springsm, what is this with the "Tibetans were peaceful loving people?" I know it's hard to give up idealized portraits of these "good people", but unfortunately the reality is different from the myth.

Here are some real quotes from CIA-trained Tibetan guerilla Norbu Dorje: "People have seen now what the Chinese are doing in Tibet and I think what people are seeing will increase our support. Those who love peace should support us," he said.

Dorje is from Kham, a province in Eastern Tibet long known for its fierce locals who -- because of the remote, mountainous terrain and lawlessness -- developed a fearsome reputation as horsemen, fighters and bandits.

For hundreds of years, Khampas were bodyguards to generations of reincarnations of the Dalai Lama, a tradition that continued until the Tibetan spiritual leader's flight into exile in India in 1959.

In dramatic footage by Canadian TV shown on Wednesday, over 1,000 Tibetans, some on horseback, charged into a remote Chinese town in Gansu, attacking a government building, clashing with soldiers, and hoisting their national flag. It was not immediately clear where the attack took place or when.

The footage showing Khampas in traditional dress on horseback staging the protest was an emotional moment for Dorje who has not seen his home province in half a century.

"When I saw them (Khampa protesters) rip down the Chinese flag and put up the Tibetan flag, I was very very proud," Dorje said."

See "Former Tibet guerrilla says peaceful protest only option" (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080321/wl_sthasia_afp/chinaunresttibet_080321045706&printer=1).

So let's think about this a minute: Mr Dorje, a CIA-trained guerilla, who comes from a TIbetan region with a fearsome reputation as bandits and fighters, and these guys were guards for the Dalai Lamas, and this one gets off watching a bunch of horseback tribesman ripping off a flag. Sounds like he has a lot more in common with Genghis Khan and Attila the Hun! (Please note, I mean no insult to any Mongols or Huns reading this blog - I'm just referring to the stereotypical image of these two characters in Hollywood portrayals). If the Dalai Lamas were so peace loving, why did they need these fearsome tribesman as guards? Didn't their people love them, or was this the only way to maintain order in a theocratic feudal system - with violent force?

I'm starting to think Americans are incapable of having anything but Manichaean-paranoid views of the world, so that all conflicts have to be reduced to good guys (the "peaceful loving Tibetans") and bad guys (the "oppressive Chinese"). Any shades of grey views are rejected. (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manichaean_paranoia). Also see this: "First Cut: Aussie captures Tibet riots on camera" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhjCX4KIz4Q)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 PM on 03/22/2008

Vice President Pelosi not only double-trumps Senator Clinton, but while Obama mops up the nomination, Rep. Pelosi lays a peace groundwork on the international theatre for him by underscoring world attention to the plight of the long-oppressed Tibetans. If China, says Richard Gere, ever expects to be considered a serious world leader, this behavior toward the Tibetans is unacceptable. Meanwhile, Sen. John McCain tries to look presidential by shaking hands with...Tony Blair? And mixing up,, uh...Sunnis, Shiites, al quaeda? Help! Help! Lieberman! Help me! Where am I?! Joe! Joe!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 AM on 03/22/2008

These politicians are loyal only to transnational war profiteers, banksters, and oil corporations. The US economy is going to hell, US people are losing their homes and jobs, and what does US Speaker of the House Pelosi do? She takes a trip across the globe, strolls arm-in-arm with a Tibetan religious figure and badmouths the Chinese.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 AM on 03/22/2008

Pelosi ought to get her butt back in the House and start the impeachment proceedings.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 03/21/2008

jealous of Hillary,pelosi tries to get some spotlight--she should move the House more efficiently and stay home and watch her capitalistic husband gets more profits off Americans

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 03/21/2008

Definitely agree with this. Get your own House in order. What Bush has done in Iraq, and the Congress allowed, is worse than the 50 years China has been back in Tibet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 AM on 03/22/2008

Here, here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 AM on 03/22/2008

Nancy, stay home and take care of the the little deserter and war criminal george bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 03/21/2008

Doesn't he look like Colin Powell? Wow, what a nice couple now holding hands they can move on and let us care of our issue at hand "barack Hussain Obama and Company".
Thank you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 03/21/2008

Joe Lieberman-Sith Lord of the Evil Empire
http://www.docudharma.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=5440

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 03/21/2008

Too bad a groundswell for dual impeachment hasn't made Pelosi the first woman president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 03/21/2008

Would you really want her as president? There has to be somebody better than Nancy! Anyway, who cares what she says. Not the American public!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 AM on 03/22/2008

Great. Maybe they'll keep her in Tibet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:37 PM on 03/21/2008

Ooooh, brave Nancy bad-mouthing the evil Chinese . . . can you say "hypocrite?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 PM on 03/21/2008

I don't want to criticize Nancy too much. Lately, she has started stepping up as in telling Clinton that there will be no "dream ticket" and that it's the delegates, as we all agreed, who will decide who is the candidate. Maybe Clinton pushed her weight around in Congress too much as the "inevitable" and Nancy had to toe the line. Anyway, after Bush and the Congress made over the Dali Lama but are now silent about Tibet, I am happy that Nancy is at least doing something. The silence, as they say, is deafening.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 PM on 03/21/2008

In my book, when she puts impeachment back on the table, I'l listen to what she has to say.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 AM on 03/22/2008

George Bush won't back out of the China Olympics as the U.S. backed out of Moscow in 1980 under Carter.

Bush would probably like to make waterboarding a sport.

There was an anchor on CNN one of the talking bimbo haircuts that said China went in to crack down on the violence. No, hairdo, they went in to continue to murder and silence Tibet.

Go team USA. That's the Olympic spirit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 PM on 03/21/2008

Meanwhile RepugliKKKans continue on the side of the godless commies, just to make a greasy (and bloody) buck, hahaha, how "moral" of 'em!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 PM on 03/21/2008

updated 8:27 p.m. ET Oct. 17, 2007
WASHINGTON - President Bush, raising Beijing"s ire, presented the Dalai Lama on Wednesday with the U.S. Congress" highest civilian honor and urged Chinese leaders to welcome the monk to Beijing.

The exiled spiritual head of Tibet"s Buddhists by his side, Bush praised a man he called a "universal symbol of peace and tolerance, a shepherd of the faithful and a keeper of the flame for his people."

"Americans cannot look to the plight of the religiously oppressed and close our eyes or turn away," Bush said at the U.S. Capitol building, where he personally handed the Dalai Lama the prestigious Congressional Gold Medal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 AM on 03/22/2008

I'm glad to see some American leader speaking out against China's oppression and the current media censorship in Tibet. America has supported other pacifist nations, so why not support Tibet? Why is a nation that censors the media getting the honor of the Olympic games?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 03/21/2008

"arries" talks about "media censorship" in Tibet and suggests that Tibet is a "pacifist nation". This illustrates our bizarro world where people outside the U.S. can read some stories that you can't read (or are hard to find) inside the U.S. Is this because of U.S. media censorship or media bias? Whatever the root causes, it means that U.S. residents do not get the full story and remain terribly uninformed compared to people outside the U.S. For example, this article appeared in the Daily Telegraph Australia: "Chinese beaten mercilessly - tourists" (http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23400691-5001028,00.html) "RAMPAGING Tibetan youths stoned and beat Chinese people in the Tibetan capital and set ablaze stores but now calm has returned after a military clampdown, say tourists emerging from the Himalayan region.

"It was an explosion of anger against the Chinese and Muslims by the Tibetans,'' 19-year-old Canadian John Kenwood said, describing an orgy of violence that swept the ancient city of Lhasa.

Mr Kenwood and other tourists, who arrived by plane in Nepal's capital Kathmandu yesterday, witnessed the unrest, which reached a climax on Friday when they said Han Chinese as well as Muslims were targeted.

They described scenes in which mobs relentlessly beat and kicked ethnic Han Chinese, whose influx into the region has been blamed by Tibetans for altering its unique culture and way of life.

Mr Kenwood said he saw four or five Tibetan men on Friday "mercilessly'' stoning and kicking a Chinese motorcyclist.

"Eventually they got him on the ground, they were hitting him on the head with stones until he lost consciousness.

"I believe that young man was killed,'' Mr Kenwood said, but added he could not be sure.

He said he saw no Tibetan deaths."

There are other similar articles here: "Tourists tell of Tibetans' violence" http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23401794-25837,00.html. You would think this is big news, but
I did a Google search and found no U.S. news media that carried this story, which contain direct quotes by witnesses. Can anyone on this blog? Instead, we seem to get lots of stories reported by Iraqi Exiles er I mean Tibetan Exiles (biased?) of mass killings of Tibetans, but offering no independent confirmation, so I really have trouble believing them. It really makes me seriously wonder why the U.S. news media seems to act like a megaphone for one point of view. We saw this lemming-like / uncritical behavior leading up to the Iraq War. We seem to see it in the coverage of Tibet, now, where the U.S. media uncritically accepts the "peaceful nonviolent" image of the Tibetans and Dalai Lama. Maybe a reporter should ask the Dalai Lama if he wants a pillow, like SNL's Obama debate skit!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 AM on 03/22/2008

"Why is a nation that censors the media getting the honor of the Olympic games?"

$$$

BTW, the US censors the media even more than China.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 03/21/2008

Wow, Stretch pandering to the Hollywood liberals.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 03/21/2008

Before starting to denounce a foreign government, Pelosi should greenlight the impeachment of the war criminals in charge of her country, or else she has ZERO INTERNATIONAL CREDIBILITY.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 PM on 03/21/2008

Nancy Pelosi is an embarrassment and a disgrace. Her tragic performance in the U.S. House precludes her from EVER using the words "moral authority." She just laid right down like a flat little pancake when she "took impeachment off the table"" absolutely shirking her Constitutional duties to the extent that criminal charges should be brought against her for dereliction, high crimes and treason. Note to China; just smile and nod... she has less than zero credibility.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 03/21/2008

It's ultimately the fault of the American people for not impeaching Bush/Cheney. Pelosi making such a move herself would rightfully have been viewed and portrayed as naked ambition. She had to "table" impeachment for the sake of governance, but We the People could have forced it back on the table.

Our bad, not hers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 PM on 03/21/2008

Obama/Pelosi in '08 has a nice ring to it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:00 PM on 03/21/2008

Dear HuffPo,
I posted a comment a few hours ago-- I'd put some thought into it. It was philophical in nature, nothing to do with sexual misconduct, no insults, no name-calling.
What gives? SHould I try again and put some of that other stuff in?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:44 PM on 03/21/2008

I've run into the same problems. Seems to be confusion among the Huffpolice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 PM on 03/21/2008

Me too, and I finally asked them if it took, foul bathroom language, insulting women, lambasting everybody with colorful language or kissing up to AH to not be censored. I have tried to be civil but even that wasn't good enough. Contact them and tell them what you are thinking.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 AM on 03/22/2008

It is a striking contrast to politics as usual when an American political leader recognises and honors a non violent struggle. Tibet suffered a genocide at the time the Dalai Lama was forced to flee. These acts were never been recognised by our government because a violent action in Tibet did not threaten American interests. Repression has continued there, and in the words of the Dalai Lama, cultural genocide.
It's time for the US to stop ignoring crimes against humanity until it is too late. We should be a beacon of peace and humanity, and not of war and denial, around the globe. Yes, it sounds terribly idealistic and naive. But read closely, so do our Declaration of Independence, our Constitution and Lincoln's Gettysburg address. And yes, Obama's speech on race.
We've strayed far form our founding principles, and although many Americans may not articulate this notion they are showing up at the polls, some for the first time, to make a difference, to make a change.

Let us leave the negativity, the personal insults-- Ms. Pelosi herself has been a target of anger and frustration. Let us stop dismissing anything that demands deeper thought than a sound bite.

We really are better than that and we need leaders who want to let the world know it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 03/21/2008

As one who dabble in buddhism for the better part of a decade, and having met His Holiness on one occasion in the 90s, I am certainly sympathetic to the Tibetan cause. But seriously, GENOCIDE? I'm pretty sure the average life expectancy in Tibet went way up after the Chinese occupation. The history of China and Tibet is a very complicated one, but Western opinions seem to be based on very little information and a lot of emotion (and too many movies).

Tibet was a brutal feudal system before the Chinese arrived (and I mean "brutal" in a literal way). His Holiness certainly didn't have anything to do with it as he was just a boy when he fled Tibet (unless, of course you really believe in reincarnation), but the rhetoric for a return to a "free" Tibet is a little disingenuous. The majority of the Tibetan people, who were mere serfs under the theocratic system, are not anxious for a return to the old days. And while all of China suffered cultural genocide under Mao's Cultural Revolution, current religious/cultural practices in Tibet have about as many restrictions as practitioners of Islam do in France.

If we let the dialogue drift too far from reality, we'll never make any progress.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 PM on 03/21/2008

drjasonmd

drjas, what have you been smoking? The Chinese have a long history of brutality toward the 'Tibetans. Are you a Chinese agent or what?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 AM on 03/22/2008