When Rev. Wright places blame on America's policies as the cause for the attack on 9/11 (America's chickens are coming home to roost), he is referenceing the 9-11 Report which stated that the attack on the WTC and the Pentagon was to protest the presence of U.S. forces in Saudi Arabia and our support for Israel. Bin Laden pressed Mohammad to stage the attacks as early as mid-2000 after Ariel Sharon offended many Muslims by visiting the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. He tried to accelerate the operation again when he learned Sharon would be visiting the White House in June or July 2001. We have removed our U.S. forces from Saudi Arabia and it would be prudent to stop supporting Israel if that support encourages another terrorist attack on our country!

Bin Laden was not ambiguous about the reasons for the 9-11 attack. We addressed one of his stated reasons " "we removed our forces from Saudi Arabia." Instead of addressing another stated reason " "our support for Israel," our freedoms have been diminished through the PATRIOT ACT, which is un-American and citizens are being murdered and abused at airports by security personnel, telephone companies are providing information on customers, i.e., warrantless eavesdropping program for which they are seeking immunity, etc. This is unacceptable! Most of those who are eroding our cherished freedoms didn't fight nor sacrifice for those freedoms. Our freedoms are not theirs to squander.

obama will pass over all of this.

Remember the old Bob Peck Chevrolet commericals? "Check with Peck before you buy!"

Well I understand why Faux News did what they did. Why they talked about Obama/Wright issue all the time even when people already knew there was no issue at all. I was listening the other day to Rev. Wright other true sermons (not frauds which cable TVs offered us) and in every one of it he is bashing president and government saying aloud what many people just thinking. So when you put it in context that Faux News is pro-GWB and GOP TV station then result is creating smear against everybody who is against.

What does truth matter to those whom it doesn't serve? When a politician fails to win on merit, it is so eaasy to sell out to Murdock and get his slime machine working for you. It is the largest fake news network in the world, ever ready to put out misleading snippets that are not even complete sentences. (Like the Wright stuff!) When a nation is so ready to be deceived again and again, one has to wonder about it.

Why is anyone still bothering with this fake news medium? Or, for all that, to any of its imitators (the rest of our MSM!) Has everyone forgotten already how they sold the WMDs and the war? Has everyone forgotten all the cover ups for that wonderful leader, George W. Bush? Has everyone forgotten the slime and constant ridiculing aqnd unfunny jokes given out instead of truth about his opponents? If this represents the thinking of our country, we're hopeless. No wonder the dollar has lost half its value since Bush took officed. No wonder we are bogged down in a mess 5 years after "Mission Accomplished." No wonder we are still practicing the same style of politics by deception. And it will be no great wonder that we will continue to follow the same path after the election!

It is not that hard to find truth if you seek it. "Seek and you shall find."

But Sometimes I dispair for my nation. People, are you afraid that what you find might not conform to your prejudice? Then go to . . . . Fox and Rush. They will feed you the crap you must love. You keep eating it up.

Every living thing has to die of something sometime!

This is what people are talking about when they say America is Rasist:

Ignorant Black Church comment. #### LEAD STORY ####
Candidate forced to "denounce comments, requested to leave church"

Ignorant White Chruch comment. ### quick comment, change topic ###
Candidate "does not aggree" but actually sought out the individual who made the comments.

The message here is clear.

The Hagel comments are preferred.

What does this mean?

People should take a look at this. If anyone still believes this Fox News smear....

A visit to Obama's church

March 21, 2008

Thank you for printing the entire text of Barack Obama's Philadelphia speech.

My sister teaches parenting classes and works at the Mom and Me Camp for children with incarcerated mothers at a prison in Lincoln, Ill. She sent this message about Obama's church, Trinity United Church of Christ, in Chicago.

The former chaplain at the prison, Laurie Tockey, was a seminary student in Chicago and attended TUCC, which was then predominantly black, as it is today. Although he was white, Chaplain Tockey made this his home while in seminary. When he was working in Lincoln before his recent death in a car accident, he started the Mom and Me Camp. Before long, volunteers from TUCC came to help. Each year, more people came. Buses were sent to Chicago to pick up kids from that area, and TUCC people accompanied them to Lincoln and stayed to help with the camp. They have continued to come even after Chaplain Tockey died.

Several years ago, my sister went to TUCC on a Friday night for their celebration of 25 years of prison ministry. The church is on the south side of Chicago and is huge. As part of the service, the men from their church choir sang. There were about 150 men and they processed down the aisle singing, all wearing native African garb. They sat at the front of the sanctuary, singing several times. Jeremiah Wright spoke that night about the prison ministry and what it had meant to this church. For my sister, it was an unforgettable event.

LINDRA MOERDYK

North Chittenden

http://www.rutlandherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080321/OPINION02/803210307/1037/OPINION02

Interesting.......my question is ,,,,,,why are we not demanding a full open airing of the entire video on the air......for everyone to make up there on minds?

"hate begets hate" yep cant argue with that though ..... what is the suggestion ..... cuddle up to the one who want your blood ???? does anyone really thinks that the likes of Osama bin laden need an excuse in order to attack us ?
and the other thing a second us of mass destruction weapon on japan, the darkest moment in american history, and there was no hate coming back .....

if Barak Obama would not have taken the high ground to proclain he is another type of politician
if him/his wife and some supporters would have not have the attitude of "oh we are so furtunate and thank our luck that he is willing to be the president" my reaction would have been different

for a family who goes to church someone forgot that vanity and arrogance is a sin, my problem with Barak is the same i have with spitzer it is the hypocracy of politicians

If instead of justifying and cheering up everytime the guy farts "wow he is so cleve r" SUPPORTERS" will hold his feet to the fire the canidate will be a better president and maybee his self importance will not make his head to big to get through the door

It is disapointing to find the ttitude of p. Bush "you either with us or against us" being practiced by the same people who despise his policies

White people are allowed to say plently of things that people of color aren't .They are allowed to commit crimes without consequences that people of color aren't.They are allowed alumni set asides for their kids while complaining about minority scholarships.They can get together in large groups, drink and act crazy ( tail gate parties etc) without fear of having helicopters called out.If their car breaks down and they need help they can approach strangers.They can go around unshaved and disheved without being given a wideberth. They can say the most radical truths and people don't even blink, especially if they're wearing a suit and not a dashiki.

Black people are revolutionary just by their having survived.... they were'nt s'posed to, once they couldn't be used as free labor anymore. Although they do still provide quit a few prison jobs , so capitalism has found a way to utilize them for profit.

How we see the world:

Our friend Israel lauded the terrorism of Begin, who boasted of being the Father of Terrorism (in the Middle East? NO! ,ha ha!, in the Whole World.) But we saw no wrong in him.
So it has gone since the terrorist Zionists entered under the protection of British guns. They were highly armed and instigated conflict against the natives who were kept disarmed by the same British. (And when the Brits were not sufficiently accomodatinng, Friend Begin and company blew some of their soldiers up. They heroically got the message and got out.)
Since the UK and US forced the creation of Israel on Palestinian soil, against the will of the majority of all the people there, the Zioinists have acted with impunity against international law and the laws of morality, because the US was always willing to sacrifice for them.
The Iraq invasion was ednvisioned in Israel as early as their first invasion of tghen prosperous Lebanon -- for the same purpose. That is, to destroy a stable state and breaking it up into antagonistic pieces. (That was written about by Noam Chomsky in his "Fateful Triangle." The plan expressed by Ze'ev Schiff was to break Iraq into at least three parts. Guess where Biden got his idea!) It was thought to be in Israe's interest to have as much instability as possible, so that they couls expand and have hegemony over the whole region.
Not what your MSM has told you? But you know how truthdful they are; they told you all about those nonexisting WMDs, and helped promote the war. They called one set of Terrorists "Freedom Fighters" and a group of Freedom Fighters "Terrorists." And they are ever so patriotic!
But what is a terrorist exactly? And why do they do such terrible things? The purpose of the terrible things is always to "Shock and Awe" or does that sound too too familiar?
When big governments do it it is for purposes of hegemony. When little men do it, they always tell us -- if we listen -- that they want justice, which has been denied them.

In Afghanistan, when those little men were fighting Russia, they were good freedom fighters. But now that they are fighting us, they are terrorists.

When we were at odds with Russia, Chechen freedom fighters were admired for contrinuing to strive heroically for the independence they have fought for for 500 years. But when Bush fell in loved with Putin, they became Islamic Terrorists.

What's truth? Depends on which way the wind is blowing.

How we see the world:

Our friend Israel lauded the terrorism of Begin, who boasted of being the Father of Terrorism (in the Middle East? NO! ,ha ha!, in the Whole World.) But we saw no wrong in him.
So it has gone since the terrorist Zionists entered under the protection of British guns. They were highly armed and instigated conflict against the natives who were kept disarmed by the same British. (And when the Brits were not sufficiently accomodatinng, Friend Begin and company blew some of their soldiers up. They heroically got the message and got out.)
Since the UK and US forced the creation of Israel on Palestinian soil, against the will of the majority of all the people there, the Zioinists have acted with impunity against international law and the laws of morality, because the US was always willing to sacrifice for them.
The Iraq invasion was ednvisioned in Israel as early as their first invasion of tghen prosperous Lebanon -- for the same purpose. That is, to destroy a stable state and breaking it up into antagonistic pieces. (That was written about by Noam Chomsky in his "Fateful Triangle." The plan expressed by Ze'ev Schiff was to break Iraq into at least three parts. Guess where Biden got his idea!) It was thought to be in Israe's interest to have as much instability as possible, so that they couls expand and have hegemony over the whole region.
Not what your MSM has told you? But you know how truthdful they are; they told you all about those nonexisting WMDs, and helped promote the war. They called one set of Terrorists "Freedom Fighters" and a group of Freedom Fighters "Terrorists." And they are ever so patriotic!
But what is a terrorist exactly? And why do they do such terrible things? The purpose of the terrible things is always to "Shock and Awe" or does that sound too too familiar?
When big governments do it it is for purposes of hegemony. When little men do it, they always tell us -- if we listen -- that they want justice, which has been denied them.

In Afghanistan, when those little men were fighting Russia, they were good freedom fighters. But now that they are fighting us, they are terrorists.

WEhen we were at odds with Russia, Chechen freedom fighters were admired for contrinuing to strive for the independence they have fought for for 500 years. But when Bush fell in loved with Putin, they became Islamic Terrorists.

What's truth? Depends on which way the wind is blowing.

Noam Chomsky said it best on TV, Radio and his book 9-11. Google "Noam Chomsky 911" and see for yourselves.

Ambassador Peck has been a great public servant and an extremely intelligent man and it's my pleasure to call him a friend.

I would attend this church in a second if I lived in Chicago. This is not a hate monger. He's a love monger. How sad it is that the media can so distort a man's words that he can make him look like he was saying the opposite of what he was saying. Not God Damn America. God Bless American but God Damn FOX. God Damn CNN. God Damn MSNBC.

Wright was *never* preaching hate of America or of white people.

He *was* preaching exactly what is in the scriptures.

Through all of this fuss, all of this noise, all of this trash that has come from the right... still, not ONE person amongst them can address the hateful statements made by all of their "Family Values" preachers, nor better yet - can any of them explain why they have ANYTHING at all to do with the Reverend Sun Myung Moon and how he sets the tone for the religious right in the first place... he DID save Jerry Fallwell's school from going under back in the eighties.

What do "Christians" have to do with a man who claims himself the messiah, and Jesus a failure?

Galatians 1:8

"But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed!"

A comparison of Wright over Moon: http://www.gorenfeld.net/john/

Note to on the site the Bush connections with this cult leader.

Explanations from the right?

Anyone?

Thought not.

I think Rev. Wright, his church and congregation should sue the hell out of FOX and any other media outlet that peddled this slanderous/libelous crap for ++++ millions of dollars. Since money is what these media whores understand, they should be punished to feel the pinch.

The fact that everyone is upset is because the Rev Wright told the truth and America's chickens did come home to roost and we need to except that! We Americans hate to take responsibility for our actions but we expect the Nazi's to take responsibility, we expected Saddam Hussein to except responsibility, we even expect China to be responsible but we can't do that because we are good and righteous and every one else is evil... So no pun intended but the world is not so black and white... we have done wrong to the world and at some point we need to answer for those injustices and wrongs....

Mr Stein.
A great Blog
Unfortunately A portion of the American people are going read into what Reverend Wright said to justify their point of veiw. It is clear that Reverend Wright was repeating what was said by Ambassador Peck saying.
I haven't heard any of the MSM denouncing what Ambassador Peck said on Fox News

This is the one comment by Rev. Wright that I did not take offense at. I was fully aware, following 9/11, that many radical people felt this way about the U.S. They have the right to express it because we are guaranteed that fundamental right to speak our minds.

The problem that I had with Rev. Wright's comment was the timing. While most churches were extending open doors, support, and prayer (I worked in one.) in the days following 9/11, the Rev. Wright chose to put these disconcerting words into his speech/sermon. Regardless of whether this was a "footnote" to his sermon, it was inappropriate on the Sunday following 9/11. Clearly a lack of judgment on the part of Rev. Wright.

Dear Sam here is the quote and reference:
1963 "November 22 - President John F. Kennedy assassinated in Dallas, Texas.

December 1 - Last speech representing Nation of Islam. Says, in response to reporter"s question, that Kennedy assassination Malcolm X said is case of CIA "chickens coming home to roost."

That is where this quote came from.

Dear Sam,
I was around in those days of Malcolm X and what
Malcolm X said was "another CIA chicken come home to roost"
Referring to the assanation of JFK.

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No One would expect the FAUX NOISE hate mongering talking heads to tell the complete story.
They follow explicitly the TABLOID NEOCON orders of murdock and ailes.
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Great Work Mr. Stein. Finally, the bigger picture has been provided so everyone can see for themselves that Mr. Wright's comments were not as inflammatory as Faux News would have everyone believe. When listening to the entire clip, it becomes increasingly difficult to find fault with the historical accuracy of Wright's statements. There is nothing malicious or false in the pastor's statements; and, in fact, Mr. Wright was only paraphrasing what Amb. Peck had said on Fox News. Thanks Stein for speaking truth to power.

Hate begats hate, terrorism begats terrorism. These words seem true to me. Why would we need to improve our standing on the world stage if we were such a loved Country. The American people are taking this personally. We the people have no control of who we the Government go to war with or what country we the Government occupy. Hearing the whole sermon in context, I think it goes right to the heart of our religious beliefs. It is time for self examination, now more than ever. We are throwing a good Presidential candidate under the bus because we are a racist nation of people and don't want to see a black man as President.

Lets more forward. I am so ready to stop hating blacks just because they are black. I appeal to everyone that reads this to take Rev. Wrights advice and do some self-examination and ask God to remove the racism from your hearts.