Report: Clinton\'s Private Objections To NAFTA

Report: Clinton's Private Objections To NAFTA "Ludicrous"

ABC's Political Punch   |  Jake Tapper   |   March 21, 2008 05:58 PM


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I have now talked to three former Clinton Administration officials whom I trust who tell me that then-First Lady Hillary Clinton opposed the idea of introducing NAFTA before health care, but expressed no reservations in public or private about the substance of NAFTA.

Yet the Clinton campaign continues to propagate this myth that she fought NAFTA tooth and nail because she opposed the substance of the bill.


 
 

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American foreign policy seems to be dictated by the desire to make the people with the oil mad at them.

It hasn't worked out that well, really.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 AM on 03/28/2008

In the end, it doesn't make a difference to me if she did or didn't support NAFTA.

Her husband DID, over the loud objection of working people and consumer advocates. What the detractors predicted for the agreement happened. I'm not interested in rewarding someone who help push down wages, put more people out of good middle class jobs with dignity, to cater to his craven Wall Street friends and the corrupt olliarchs of Mexico.

Thanks Bill, but no thanks, I remember.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 AM on 03/23/2008

Maybe we should ask Sen. Clinton about a few things, including "Sniper Fire".

And perhaps about NAFTA, Northern Ireland peace accords, taxes from 2000-2006 that have already been filed, donations to the Clinton library, and a few other things.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 AM on 03/23/2008

So if my wife wants someone to die, and I kill them but deep in my heart of hearts yet vocalized to no one I really don't want to do it, am I still guilty if I shoot that person in the face?

By Hillary's tortured "logic", no.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 03/22/2008

If she does win this, she has given the rethugs so much material to use against her that she doesnt have a chance. The rethugs know that, just like they know Shillary is the only one who will bring even the most pissed republican out to vote for McWar . giving her the nomination is a sure win for McWar. Because people like myself sure as hell wont even bother to vote. not knowing there isnt a stitch of difference between the 2.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 03/22/2008

This is the ultimate con job, and she has the upper hand here. You cant prove or disprove what she said or did in private. Even if others deny what she is spinning, it all comes down to he said she said, and thats a no win situation. The public record shows she was a hard core supporter of Nafta, and to tell you the truth, if you have video of someone robbing a 711, but then that person says that they really didnt want to do it, what would your gut instinct tell you to go with?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 PM on 03/22/2008

Well the truth hurts, and this truth will hurt Hill in Penn. If she does not win by blow out proportions than she is going to be forced to drop out way before June. It could and should happen soon.

Now that FL and MI do-overs are a dead issue, there is zero chance of a Clinton comeback.

Even with new primaries in these states Hillary would almost certainly come up short.

Nancy Pelosi set the record straight over a week ago already, Hillary will not be strong arming the Supers away from the delegate leader, Barack Obama. The very idea that she still has a chance by way of some unforseen calamity causing irreparable harm to the front runner and then trying like crazy to turn anything they can ( Rev. Wright) into this type of firestorm is unacceptable to say the least. The uncommited Superdels should, and I believe many will, take note of the Clinton campaign's disgusting approach and come out together in support of the Dem nominee for the '08 Presidential election. Illinois Senator Barack Obama.

I have a feeling a big group, like the majority of them, could all go at once and it could happen any day. Do we really need four more weeks of divisive, destructive garbage from the treacherous Sen. Hillary Benedict Arnold campaign? No. She has already expressed her desire to break the party with her conduct of the past two weeks/months. This can't be lost on most of the Supers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 PM on 03/22/2008

I would believe David Gergen before I would believe Jake Tapper (in the bag for Obama). He said she was not enthusiastic about NAFTA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 03/22/2008

The same Jack Tapper that was writing hit pieces on Obama just recently?

I think we can agree, perhaps, that he's good at nailing candidates to the wall, but there's no reason to complain that Clinton's being treated unfairly when it happened to Obama as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 AM on 03/23/2008

jake tapper "in the bag for Obama"?! what crack are you smoking?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 03/22/2008

So is her campaign, management style and everything else that comes out of her mouth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 PM on 03/22/2008

To oppose something does not necessarily require taking action against it. I can oppose something, in opinion, and not do anything to fight against it. I opposed the Iraq war, but I did nothing to prevent it. Clearly, the fact that Hillary showed some degree of public support for NAFTA legislation creates a contradiction when she says she opposed it. But to simply state that she is lying is also false.

But, in politics, as Obama suggests, compromise is the name of the game. I don't like compromise, and that is one reason I do not like Obama's advocacy of such, but it occurs often in politics. Hillary wanted to promote healthcare, but others around her wanted to promote NAFTA first. She was told, let's get NAFTA passed, and then we can focus on healthcare -- you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours.

I think it is important to point out that NAFTA was already being crafted BEFORE Bill Clinton came into office, and that the Republican controlled congress with which Clinton had to work was pressing hard for its passage. This is an example of the damage that can occur from "compromise" with Republicans. Not only did we end up with BAD legislation, but now Hillary is dealing with this kind of ridiculous media coverage.

Hillary "compromised" on this issue, in much the same fashion as Obama advocates when he talks about "reaching across the aisle". Good luck, Obama, if and when it becomes your time to actually "compromise" with Republicans as you so advocate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:39 PM on 03/22/2008

I might buy her story if she opposed it, and did nothing about it. But she clearly pushed it , and pushed it hard. That is much different that what you are saying.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 PM on 03/22/2008

Yes, as I stated, her public appearances make it difficult for her now, because they appear to contradict her claimed opposition. I grant that, and I'm not a Hillary supporter for those who might wonder. But I think it is clear that politicians have a difficult time saying, "I made a mistake." Very few ever do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 PM on 03/23/2008

So how do you reconcile Hillary's comments that are pro-NAFTA since she left the White House? Only when she had to go to Ohio and PA has she suddenly become the anti-free trade "I want to fix NAFTA" woman. This is not her stance since 2000. Check the facts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 03/22/2008

I am not a Hillary apologist, and I do not reconcile anything Hillary has done, in particular. As I say, her capitulation to, cooperation with, Republican ideology is one reason I did not want to see her as the Dem candidate.

She has often stated that there are problems with the current NAFTA legislation, not just in the past few weeks, as you suggest. And as I stated above, she now has the problem of having been wrong, again (also on the Iraq authorization bill), and that has primarily come about because her husband, and so she, "cooperated" with the Republican congress in passing this legislation. For some reason, a large majority of politicians cannot say they are wrong about something...

If Obama keeps his word to "reach across the aisle" and work with Republicans, he will soon enough find himself in this same predicament, because cooperating with Repubs always leads to this, sooner or later.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 PM on 03/23/2008

Interesting take on her "opposition" to NAFTA. I've read numerous accounts from members of Congress that claimed Hillary was "pimping" for NAFTA (if I can use that term). I've read elsewhere comments from those inside that Hillary had little opposition to NAFTA on its merits.

What was it she said in the Ohio debate...."it didn't work out the way we thought it would"?

Odd that she didn't say "I knew it would fail, but it happened in spite of my opposition to it".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:12 PM on 03/22/2008

The Clinton campaign has absolutely no shame, and no sense of reality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 PM on 03/22/2008

Put up or shut up Tapper, no more anonymous sources. Let me decide if I trust your sources, alright? We have trusted you people (the media) long enough and look where it's gotten us. Suddenly these people come out of the woodwork. Give me a break.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 03/22/2008

hey moron, why don't you read the actual story (follow the link). You will then realize that the sources are not anonymous but clearly sourced.

so put up or shut up, eh? then please by all means shut your mouth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 03/22/2008

things always come out of the woodwork when you smoke out a rat. clinton has consistently lied or inflated her role as first lady. and this whole "i'm a friend of the nafta-displaced worker," is a crock of b.s. the facts are coming out. maybe in time for the pennsylvania voters to figure out that they shouldn't vote for the triangulator-in-chief who helped bring us nafta, the iraq war, and the bankruptcy bill. yeah, hillary sure knows how to "take care" of the american worker.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 03/22/2008

We will never get better elected leaders until we demand more from our candidates. Unfortunately, as we've seen time after time, the lying doesn't stop at the White House door. This is our chance to reject the politics of Say Anything to get your way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 PM on 03/22/2008

The Clintonites are pretty quiet about the new revelations about their Queen's lack of "experience". Now the line is "she's more patriotic" than Barack Obama. Disgusting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 03/22/2008

Don't buy into the "patriotic" scam. Remember, Hillary Clinton was the only democratic candidate to refuse to sign the pledge to restore the constitution back to where it should be. You know, little things like habeas corpus, no illegal spying, etc..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 AM on 03/23/2008

"Now the line is "she's more patriotic" than Barack Obama."

There's NOTHING "patriotic" about shredding our military and its capabilities in pursuit of an imbecilic military adventure for profit of a few, and the presidential ambitions of one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 03/22/2008

To whom do you refer? I have trouble seeing your comments applying to anyone but the current administration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 PM on 03/22/2008

That's because you are not on friendly terms with reality.

"imbecilic military adventure for profit of a few" refers to the current administration... and "and the presidential ambitions of one" refers to Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Go read her explanation of why she COULDN'T vote for the Levin Amendment. I dare you to defend that scurrilously insulting lie of hers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 AM on 03/23/2008

The Clintons just lie. That's all they know.
It's just that until now they have been lying in the best interest of the dems.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 03/22/2008

Hillary's supporters were blindly behind her before and are not about to change in spite of the continuing stream of contradictions, campaign messages, exaggerations and outright lies. They worked NAFTA around the clock and everyone knew it. They think that's being "tough." It should be clear that at least two third of the country is opposed to Hillary as President if for no other reason than a desire to avoid the dredging up of all that Bill and Hillary crap again. Enough is enough. They did nothing for the party except preside over it's decline. The Dems had to stand up for them then, now it's time to wave good bye and try, somehow, to put things back together again.
She cannot be the nominee. Somehow, the Clintons need to find a way to be gracious. Sadly that doens't seem to be in their playbook. Sadly, we can only expect that they, along with their employees, Penn and Wolfson, will continue to spew their vomit all over the American political stage. As the media loves to remind us, they just don't quit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 03/22/2008

Nonsense. I will not stand for that. That is purest hogwash. I cannot accept such drivel.

The Clintons have never put the best interests of the Democrats before their own.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 PM on 03/22/2008

So sad and so true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 03/22/2008

The U.S. citizens have always trusted Canada. So when this came out they believed it was true. I personally don't think the Clintons had anything to do with the initial, slipping the wrong name into the story. I think that is Rove, Bush and their Conservative Prime Minister seem to be on the same page. The republicans want Hillary on the ticket. I think she took that gift and ran with it. However, this does not bode well for the trust issues with canada in the future.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 PM on 03/22/2008

The Canadians said they were going to investigate the issue as to why the story was changed and released wrong. If it was simply, we will find out. If someone big was involved, we will not find out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 AM on 03/23/2008



Hey Al, I always thought your book, 'LIES, AND THE LYING LIARS WHO TELL THEM' was about the NeoCons....was I wrong all these years.........or should we have known all along that the Clintons were just NC's in Demo clothing???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 PM on 03/22/2008

I do not know what they are, but the Clintons are not Democrats.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 03/22/2008

They are Tories---ever since they met Tony and Cherie Blair.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 PM on 03/22/2008

They are Tories---every since they met Tony and Cherie Blair.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 03/22/2008

This woman is so incredibly full of BS, that all I can do is laugh when I see her on the tube.

Roll up your tent and pack it in hillary.

Go back to Arkansas or just fade away. Your best days are way behind you

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 03/22/2008

Hillary is part of the Clinton machine. I'll bet she wanted NAFTA more than Bill did. In fact, Robert Rubin says she was pushing NAFTA as creating jobs in America, which he denied he had ever represented. He was there, he should know. The issue is now one of credibility. I am tired of the lies in government. Bush can always say, the Clintons lied, too. To me, this is what is un-American. Remember George Washington - "I cannot tell a lie?" These "leaders" chopped down the cherry tree and cannot admit it.

Why do we tolerate pathological liars in the White House. Didn't Bill and Hill learn their lesson when he got impeached? Wal-Mart, NAFTA, repeal of the Glass-Steagal Act, the Telecomunications Act of 1999 has placed Wall Street in charge and the Fox News propaganda in charge and pushed deregulation into the stratosphere.

Thanks, Bill. Thanks, Hill. And thank your supporters too for helping Caligula cross the Rubicon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 03/22/2008

The beauty of NAFTA for elites is that the policy lines the pockets of the contributors while the bipartisan politics of it makes both sides immune from accountability for the economic fallout.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 AM on 03/22/2008

Hmm, Hillary wants us to believe her secret thoughts and position behind the closed doors even though there is no record of it whatsoever. Publicly there are tons of evidence that she supported, endorsed, and in instances heavily promoted NAFTA. Would the Hillary supporters be convinced that Obama secretly gutted Reverend Wright for his comments but publicly stood by him? Me thinks this stinks of some double standard political sillyness.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 AM on 03/22/2008