Clinton, Obama Reconciliation Becoming More And More Impossible

Clinton, Obama Reconciliation Becoming More And More Impossible

New York Daily News   |  KENNETH R. BAZINET and MICHAEL McAULIFF   |   March 23, 2008 10:35 AM


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Dream ticket? Dream on.

Democratic insiders say Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama once held warm feelings for each other, but their fierce White House fight is pushing their relationship to the point of no return.

Many say it's already gone so far that any sort of union would come only if they thought the good of the party absolutely depended on it. Clinton has floated the idea of a dream ticket. But if Obama wins, the chances of it happening are nearly zero, strategists say.


 
 

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dems lets stop getting nasty and lets vote 4 obama but if hilliary win its her we vote 4. lets not let their fight distract us. we'll chose the best candidate
obama 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 AM on 03/26/2008

the only reason mccain is even close in polls with either democratic is because the people who voted for either candidates are being spitful to each other while being polled, but hopfully the polls are wrong by 10% for either democratic candidate

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 AM on 03/25/2008

Would YOU like a MONSTER for a running mate?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 03/24/2008

I don't think Obama would EVER have invited her aboard, but I can tell you this, I was OK with her, she was 2nd choice, but I would have voted for her,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 03/24/2008

After all of the nasty things she's said about Barack during this nomination fight, it would be suicide for him to pick her as his running mate. Imagine that ads the Republicans would run. If it is truly time to "turn the page", the last thing he needs is an albatrose like Hillary around his neck. This race will be won or lost in the west and he best pick a veep who can carry Nevada or Colorado.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 03/24/2008

Hillary has a very good chance to win Nevada. Colorado is a tougher fight, but could be a possibility. And she could probably do it without kowtowing to any particular part of the country. I hope that she gives her supporters an inkling of who her running mate would be. It may actually help her in the long run, especially if it is NOT Barack Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 03/24/2008

Can anybody explaint to me how this women who has less votes, pledged delegates and less states won somehow has the lead in super delegates.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 03/24/2008

It's called entitlement. The Clintons are entitled to a third term. Screw the amendment to the constitution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 03/25/2008

Who cares about the number of states that were won. The majority of the states that Barack Obama won were states that typically vote Republican in the presidential elections. It is Hillary who has the necessary support in the important swing states like Florida, Ohio, and Missouri. These states, for the most part, have had close presidential elections in the past. Recent polls show more support for Hillary than Obama, and that will matter in this election. If the Democrats win all 3 of these states, then more than likely, they will win enough electoral votes to win the presidential election. Who in their right mind actually thinks that Kansas, Nebraska, Wyoming, Utah, Idaho, North Dakota, South Dakota, South Carolina, and the other "red" states that Obama won in the primaries and caucuses are going to help Obama in any way if he were to become the Democratic nominee? After all, the primaries and caucuses are only indicative of voters who intend on voting Democrat in the presidential election (except for Republicans who inserted themselves into the open primaries of some of the states), and not indicative of the remaining solidly Republican electorate who predominate in these states. Therefore, your argument is nonsense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 PM on 03/24/2008

And to further support the wisdon of having superdelegates, here are some recent polls concerning Barack Obama and his race speech. Again, this is what the superdelegates will look at when they decide. Although it can go either way, I hope the superdelegates do pay attention to electability, especially since it looks like the Florida and Michigan primaries will be negated, which should have been victories for Hillary based on vote totals. I find the poll results interesting. Is this another proof that the media, which has in so many cases, exclaimed the "greatness" of Barack's race speech, has favored Barack Obama with only positive news, while conversely, it has tried to stomp out Hillary's candidacy? I believe so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 PM on 03/24/2008

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 03/24/2008

blonde ambition ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 03/24/2008

MC: Well, Hillary, you've made it to the prize round. Now, all you have to do is pick the right door and the GRAND PRIZE, 4 years for you and a guest, in the WHITE HOUSE, including complete control of the ARMED FORCES, the FEDERAL RESERVE and use of tax money for...heh heh...discretionary purposes, will BE YOURS! So, what's it gonna be, Hill? Door number one, two or three.

HILL: Well, this is hard. I mean, the doors all look alike. Could I have a hint? No? Well, there's probably a mathematical chance it could be behind any of the doors. No hints, huh? Dubya got hints, didn't he? Rats....

MC: Pick a door, Hillary.

HILL: Well, I don't want to be hasty. Is there time to conduct a poll? Can the audience help me?

MC: What the hell, tell 'er what you think audience!

(SHOUTING erupts from the audience and HILL tries to pick out the suggestions)

HILL: Well, okay, I'm hearing a lot of yelling for door number two, but that could be misleading. I don't like the number two anyway. But then, I don't really like one or three either.

MC: Hill...?

HILL: Oh what the hell, I like to take chances...door number...three...NO!...TWO!...NO! Wait, time out. I had my fingers crossed. Door number...one...wait...yeah, door number one.

MC: You're sure? Door number one?

(HILL, looking offstage toward some unseen person, nods slowly)

MC: Hillary takes door number one. Let's show her what she's won...

(Door opens to show a new washer and dryer)

MC: Well, you may not have won the GRAND PRIZE but you did win a Parsed Position Washer and Dryer, perfect for small apartments and pet grooming parlors!

(HILLARY grimaces and she makes a threatening gesture toward the unseen person in wings)

MC: Isn't she a GOOD SPORT?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 PM on 03/24/2008

is this even slightly funny?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 03/24/2008

She has not even been fully vetted yet. Let us have a look NOW so we can see where her money comes from. Where are those tax returns, Hillary?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 03/24/2008

So you are worried about Hillary Clinton's money, but you are not concerned about the record breaking election money that Obama is receiving? Good grief!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 PM on 03/24/2008

His doesn't come from drug companies and lobbyists like Hillary's funds...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 03/25/2008

My issue with Hillary Clinton is that I feel she is only motivated by her own ambition. She may earnestly believe that her ambition and the interests of the Democratic Party and that of the American people are one and the same, but they are not.

Barack has given us a framework to discuss not just the thorny issue of race or gender, but several others that afflict every American. Issues like our disastrous adventure in Iraq, the continuing and impending disaster looming in the sub prime mortgage debacle, education, corporate greed, and so on. Rather than join in and constructively add to or even expand the thoughtful and mature discussion on some of the issues that divide us, and how we might go forward and tackle the issues we both share, she sends her husband out as attack dog to play to tired reactionaries with his Jesse Jackson statement, and question this great American Barack Obama"s patriotism with his more recent ones.

This is the politics of divisiveness that thankfully I believe we are turning the page on. We once had a great Democrat that when campaigning said something along the lines of this - If you are given the choice of candidates and one is preaching hope and the other is talking fear, you better choose the one with the hope. That candidate was Bill Clinton but Hillary is not Bill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 03/24/2008

That's not true. Bill's abition factors in, too....;-) From her campaign, the interests of the democratic party aren't even on her list of concerns....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 03/25/2008

yeah yeah-- heard it all before

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:27 PM on 03/24/2008

Only because it is true in a land that cares not for truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 03/24/2008

Who in the world ISN'T motivated by their own ambition? LOL You guys are hilarious.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 03/24/2008

Clinton needs to get out now!! She has already lost the pledge delegate count AND the popular vote. She is depending on the SUPER DELEGATES - this is not right! She is not thinking about the party at all, only herself. In addition, the WIN in TX and OHIO had a lot to do with REPUBLICANS voting in the democratic primary.

Thank you Bill Richardson for taking the high road and voting for the candidate who rightly has the nomination.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 03/24/2008

Looking at the Clinton's hints about a possible VP slot for Obama is about as smelly a red herring
as I've ever seen. As for Obama, with Hillary for VP, why on God's green earth would he want all
that Clinton baggage. A well respected military man, such as Zinni or Clark would make much
more sense, and help undercut McCain's of being the national security candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 03/24/2008

If Obama thinks about serving as VP in a Clinton Administration, he better ask Al Gore how that worked out for him first.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 03/24/2008

OBAMA IS DIVIDING THE PARTY. HE SHOULD DROP OUT NOW BECAUSE HE CAN'T WIN THE GENERAL AGAINST MCSANE. THE COUNTRY WON'T TRUST HIM WITH TWO WARS AND A FAILING ECONOMY.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 PM on 03/24/2008

Obama dividing the party? Hmmm, last time anyone checked, it's HRC who is outright lying practically at every turn, spinning, gasping everyday of her campaign. Hmmm, last time anyone looked at a situation like that from a realistic point of view, they'd have to state that she should have dropped out a long time ago...but being HRC, she gets (as usual) a pass and continues on, really making matters worse daily for the party and the country in the long run.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 03/26/2008

Why should Senator Obama drop out....he's ahead, in case you haven't noticed!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 PM on 03/24/2008

Think you have your candidates mixed up there Marrob ! It doesn' take somene with half a brain to see Hillary is the divider, liar, untrustworthy candidate. Obama gave one of the greatest speeches in history about race. Hillary is a has been and never will be elected President this time or next.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 PM on 03/24/2008

It's illogical to think that Hillary can beat McCain if she can't beat Obama. Try again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 03/24/2008

You must mean the country won't trust McCain because of two wars and a failing economy. Its loudmouths like you that are dividing the party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 PM on 03/24/2008

What's that, Marrob?

We couldn't hear you...

Think maybe your message was obscured by your tone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 PM on 03/24/2008

This is a good place to express one's personal opinions. Rock on.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 03/24/2008

DUH-looshional

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 PM on 03/24/2008

A ticket with Hillary Clinton would not be a dream. It would be a nightmare.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 03/24/2008

Micky,

Well-said; her image is scary and a detriment to a winning ticket in November.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 03/24/2008

dream ticket?? Dream on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 03/24/2008

Obama has already secured the Democratic nomination. Considering picking Hillary as VP on a dream ticket; well Obama realizes that "you cannot turn chicken sh** into chicken salad overnight......that will never happen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 AM on 03/24/2008

But he has figured out how to turn chocolate ice cream into vanilla. Barack is black when he needs to be and white when he needs to be. He does not appear to be genuine in any way. He can address all he wants. Why did Barack wait to address race? If Barack had these lofty ideals about race, wouldn't one think that his race speech would have been given in the beginning of his campaign, and not as a response to an uproar about a racist reverend that Barack is enamored with?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 03/24/2008

You want to talk genuine? Look at NAFTA statements, Bosnia trip statements, peace in N Ireland statements, Iraq war vote statements,... Perhaps you want a continuation of a presidency of false reality, I don't.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 AM on 03/25/2008

You might vote democrat, but you talk republican...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 03/24/2008

And you talk out of your ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 PM on 03/24/2008