McCain Pushed For War In Iraq For 10 Years

McCain Pushed For War In Iraq For 10 Years

LA Times   |  Bob Drogin   |   March 23, 2008 01:39 PM


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As America's war in Iraq enters its sixth year, Sen. John McCain is hoping that his long effort to send thousands more U.S. troops -- a "surge" that has helped lower casualties -- will propel him into the White House.

But McCain's record on Iraq is decidedly mixed. If the Arizona Republican proved prescient in his calls for a military buildup, many of his other predictions and prescriptions turned out wrong.



 
 

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If the threat of McCain as President is not enough to send democrats running to the polls with their hair on fire I don't know what will. And I am truly sick and tired of hearing the media and the democratic candidates when they talk about him first feel they have to say "I respect Sen. McCain" he is a American hero. Well I don't give a crap what he's done in the pass I'm concerned about who he is now and anyone talking about continuing this invasion of Iraq is no hero is my opinion, arrogant yes but no hero. Want to be a hero Mr. McCain bring our military home.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 AM on 03/24/2008

Amen, SL,

A definition of "respect" should include listing attributes such as McCain's fawning over rightwingers to get their approval; closing ranks with Bush to get his support -- after slamming him, of course. McCain has been in lobbyists' pockets all his legislative life. McCain hungers for more US bloodshed in more wars, at his advanced age.

If there's any respect due here, it's to his Navy uniform that hangs in closet retirement. And the uniform certainly does not qualify McCain for the presidency. The press and msm have enjoyed close communion with McCain on his PR bus. Reporters should get out more, get off the bus, and look with some objectivity at their darling. It won't happen though; a "straight-talker" has been created and maintained by media.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 AM on 03/24/2008

If McCain wants to be in Iraq for another 10 years then I think it's time he stop talking about it and re-enlist. And I think Dick should go with him. I could not believe Chenney's response the other when told the majority of the country wants out of Iraq and he response was "SO". Could these republicans be any more arrogant? Dam what you the citizens of this country want. Come November I hope people realize a vote for McCain means continued occupation of Iraq, with no end in sight.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 AM on 03/24/2008

Here's a video of Democrats pushing for war in Iraq. Pelosi, Reid, Albright, Berger, Rockefeller, both Clintons, Edwards, Dean, and more are shown here:

http://lawhawk.blogspot.com/2008/01/imagine-that.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 03/23/2008

It's easy to whine about the Republican rushing to invade Iraq, but it's an uncomfortable truth that many of the Democrats went along with it. Many of those Democrats still can't admit they were wrong. They need to be purged from office as much as the corrupt Republicans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 03/23/2008

Very powerful documentary in some theatres now - Body of War. http://www.bodyofwar.com

Visit the website, watch the trailer, catch the interview with Phil Donahue on C-Span, go see the movie and keep in touch with your senators/representatives to defund this atrocity.

We need to get our troups home and McCain ain't the way to get that accomplished!!!

Obama '08!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 PM on 03/23/2008

A vote for McCain means:

- 4000 more dead Americans
- War with Iran
- NO health care at all
- Goodbye to jobs
- Goodbye to unions
- Katrina-like economy

John McCain & Miss Teen SC on Economics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcdLO3jKkPo

McCain's Foreign Policy Gaffe (CBS News)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6GBdyws5YU

John McCain vs. John McCain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioy90nF2anI

John McCain Loses Temper With NY Times Reporter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj7HbqwZwRM

Unfit to Serve
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4ykntCXZcE

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 PM on 03/23/2008

NO, THE SURGE IS A F-A-I-L-U-R-E---as long as the Iraqi govnt refuses to reconcile its differences, fixes its constitution and signs a revenue-sharing deal over oil profits that does NOT give the West 80% of the profits for the next 99 years-like the present deal they refuse to sign does!!!THE PURPOSE OF THE SURGE ,THE GOAL OF THE SURGE WAS TO PROVIDE "QUIET" TO ACCOMPLISH THOSE GOALS- NONE ARE ACCOMPLISHED!!!! NONE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 03/23/2008

John McCain, America's self appointed god of war and latest false idol.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 PM on 03/23/2008

"McCain Pushed for War in Iraq for 10 Years."

Is this a headline from four years hence?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 03/23/2008

Listen up all who are discouraged with the Democratic nomination process. Get over it; make a choice.

We have to defeat McCain this November. Period.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 03/23/2008

I've got a good job in Canada lined up if McCain wins. They'll have to start a draft for the next war(s) McCain plans. I'm too old, but they won't get my sons. Forgetaboutit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 PM on 03/23/2008

Hog jaw McCain is totaly out of it, the cancer has eaten his brain, along with drinking straight vodka with Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 03/23/2008

A President Mccain would spell absolute disaster for the United States. Bush has destroyed the nation and is the reason the US is in the gutter... McCain will nail the final stake into the heart of America.

Never Ending War = Never ending Arms and Oil Profits.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 03/23/2008

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There's a lot that voters have forgotten about Mr. McCain. Wasn't he connected to the S & L scandals? Didn't Mr. McCain have a fling with his present wife while still married to his former wife (shades of Rudy!). Now Mr. McCain says Americans don't care how long the Iraq war lasts. I care for one. Hasn't Mr. McCain told a really horrible joke about Chelsea Clinton (where's his sense of decency)? Hasn't he said the economy is in trouble because the Europeans cannot manage their budgets?
It's time for Mrs. Clinton to step aside so that Senator Obama can start taking his war monger apart--idea by idea. We can't have this guy appoint more trash to the Supremes like George did._____________YES!!!! Summary of McCain: corrupt, adulterer, jingoist, no sense of decency, no idea of economy. there's much more, so posters, lets list them all!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 PM on 03/23/2008

Did McShame sign PNAC?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 PM on 03/23/2008

Here is a look back at five years of John McCain on Iraq.

On the Run-Up to War

"Look, we're going to send young men and women in harm's way and that's always a great danger, but I cannot believe that there is an Iraqi soldier who is going to be willing to die for Saddam Hussein, particularly since he will know that our objective is to remove Saddam Hussein from power."
John McCain, September 15, 2002.

"But the fact is, I think we could go in with much smaller numbers than we had to do in the past. But any military man worth his salt is going to have to prepare for any contingency, but I don't believe it's going to be nearly the size and scope that it was in 1991."
John McCain, September 15, 2002.

"He's a patriot who has the best interests of his country at heart."
John McCain, on Ahmed Chalabi, 2003.

On Saddam's Weapons of Mass Destruction

"Proponents of containment claim that Iraq is in a "box." But it is a box with no lid, no bottom, and whose sides are falling out. Within this box are definitive footprints of germ, chemical and nuclear programs."
John McCain, February 13, 2003.

"I remain confident that we will find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq."
John McCain, June 11, 2003.

On Being Greeted as Liberators

"Absolutely. Absolutely."
John McCain, asked by Chris Matthews, "you believe that the people of Iraq or at least a large number of them will treat us as liberators?" March 12, 2003.

"Not only that, they'll be relieved that he's not in the neighborhood because he has invaded his neighbors on several occasions."
John McCain, asked by Chris Matthews, "And you think the Arab world will come to a grudging recognition that what we did was necessary?" March 12, 2003.

"There's no doubt in my mind that we will prevail and there's no doubt in my mind, once these people are gone, that we will be welcomed as liberators."
John McCain, March 24, 2003.

On a Rapid Victory and Mission Accomplished

"I think the victory will be rapid, within about three weeks."
John McCain, January 28, 2003.

"It's clear that the end is very much in sight...It won't be long. It, it'll be a fairly short period of time."
John McCain, April 9, 2003.

"Well, then why was there a banner that said mission accomplished on the aircraft carrier?"
John McCain, responding to assertion by Fox News' Neil Cavuto that "many argue the conflict isn't over," June 11, 2003.

"I have said a long time that reconstruction of Iraq would be a long, long, difficult process, but the conflict -- the major conflict is over, the regime change has been accomplished, and it's very appropriate."
John McCain, June 11, 2003.

"I'm confident we're on the right course."
John McCain, March 7, 2004.

"We're either going to lose this thing or win this thing within the next several months."
John McCain, November 12, 2006.

"My friends, the war will be over soon, the war for all intents and purposes although the insurgency will go on for years and years and years."
John McCain, February 25, 2008.

On the Safe Streets of Baghdad

"[There] there "are neighborhoods in Baghdad where you and I could walk through those neighborhoods, today."
John McCain, after touring a Baghdad market wearing a bulletproof vest and guarded by "100 American soldiers, with three Blackhawk helicopters, and two Apache gunships overhead, April 1, 2007.

"There's problems in America with safe neighborhoods as we well know."
John McCain, March 8, 2008.

On President Bush and His Team

"We are very fortunate that our president in these challenging days can rely on the counsel of a man who has demonstrated time and again the resolve, experience, and patriotism that will be required for success and the hard-headed clear thinking necessary to prevail in this global fight between good and evil."
John McCain, on Dick Cheney, July 16, 2004.

"I think he strengthened our national defenses. I think he has a good team around him."
John McCain, on President Bush, September 3, 2004.

"I said no. My answer is still no. No confidence."
John McCain, on whether he had confidence in Bush Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, December 15, 2004.

On a Permanent American Military Presence in Iraq

"We cannot keep our forces indefinitely staged in the region. Were we to attempt again to contain Saddam, we would eventually have to withdraw them. The world is full of dangers and, more likely than not, we will need some of those brave men and women to face them down."
John McCain, February 13, 2003.

"We have had troops in South Korea for 60 years and nobody minds."
John McCain, June 7, 2007.

"Make it a hundred."
John McCain, told that President Bush had said American troops could remain in Iraq for 50 years, January 3, 2008.

"I asked McCain about his 'hundred years' comment, and he reaffirmed the remark, excitedly declaring that U.S. troops could be in Iraq for 'a thousand years' or 'a million years,' as far as he was concerned."
David Corn, January 3, 2008.

"The U.S. could have a military presence anywhere in the world for a long period of time."
John McCain, February 20, 2008.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 03/23/2008

Brilliant. Thank you for taking the time to expose his record.

Now if only the major news outlets would do their jobs and publish the same, perhaps the dolts gunning for this guy might take a second look.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 PM on 03/23/2008

Thanks for posting this. I think we should all print copies and leave them lying around places where they might be seen by Republicans and Independents.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 PM on 03/23/2008

He Curt, that could be a great democratic campaign poster: John McCain Sez...
I don't call him McCain the insane for nothing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 PM on 03/23/2008

You know i kinded thought Sen. Mc Cain was some old nut to until i heard a brief story on 200.00 a bar oil. I get it now- Take out the middle man in the middle east called O-PEC we can make the claim that we are doing it in the Iraq peoples best intrest seeing the Iraq people are fighting and dieing over past misdeeds done to one another under sadam and they as iraq's people don't have a goverment that works for the people volences is all the American people see so American Business should take over with the help of our fighting forces and see that the Oil get's to the Market place so that the Iraq people can start to talk about what to do with the money American Business has made for them on the world market place instead of fighting. Oil money sitting in Banks around the world that belongs to the people of Iraq-It would be likeThe American Goverment giving every Black Person in America Millions for past misdeeds done to them. Q. taking the money or saying know and staying pissed offQ. Sen. Mc Cain i think i don't know but i think GREED is how you kill this cow, Test case we are paying them now not to shoot at our troops on the groundQ. why not try this wayQ.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 PM on 03/23/2008

When or if you learn to punctuate, edit, and express a coherent thought, more people will BOTHER to read/parse your thoughts; until then, you're just keying.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 PM on 03/23/2008

It sounds as if McCain is part of that same group of behind the scenes unelected puppetmasters through the several decades. Cheney seems to be one of the head honchos. Remember his manifesto on controlling the middle east for the oil ? He wrote it in the 1980's and has been planning military intervention since then.

It's like the Stonecutters in the Simpsons...."Who holds back the electric car? We do. We do."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 PM on 03/23/2008

Three words come to mind when I look at that sign:

Dumber. Than. Dirt.

"OOOOHHHH! YOU CAN'T RIP THE TROOPS! THEY'RE SACRED! THEYYYY AREEE THE... UUUHH... THEY PROTECT OUR... UUMMM... THEY...they..."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 PM on 03/23/2008

You disagree with him, so you think he's stupid? He's over there, and you're not, so why do think you know so much more about the situation than he does?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 03/23/2008

What war? It was an invasion to secure oil fields and oil ditribution, and stop Saddam's intent on converting oil bought in dollars to euros.
We secured the oil fields but NEVER saw one "dollar" of the revenue we invaded for. Where did alllll that trillions of dollars go? Not to us. We are the invaders and are fighting to keep the local population from kicking us out. We aimed to destroy the local culture and population. That's the war they mean when they say, "the war," and the oil money? who got it? Saudi Arabia? Dubai? Haliburton? Exxon?
Oil Companies? NOT US!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 PM on 03/23/2008

The Iraqis are receiving considerable oil revenues, but much of it is either unspent (lodged in various accounts) or syphoned off to "unauthorized" purposes--including insurgent funding. Good luck on trying to force the IRAQI GOVERNMENT to try to fund its own salvation; they have the morality of a cohort of prison inmates.....!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 PM on 03/23/2008

If there's one thing we need to have an adult discussion about, it's Iraq. We've broken it big time, and we have a lot of responsibility to own up to, regardless of who gets elected in November. McCain's approach is a little more purely military than that of Bush, and he's less likely to permit the level of chaos that we've seen during Bush's presidency, but everyone I've heard agrees that the problems in Iraq are more political than military. McCain's approach addresses the symptom, not the disease. The disagreements between Iraqis result in violence, and a lot of that has nothing at all to do with Al Qaeda. Let's please be serious about this now; it's costing lives, it's costing money, and what McCain is continuing to say just isn't serious, it's just more of the same.

McCain's side is still hoping that things develop so the multinational energy concerns control the prize, and will keep the world's most powerful foot on the neck of the Iraqis until they concede that. That isn't in your interest, and it's certainly not in my interest. It's just the greed of some wealthy people, and the fantasy of the powerful to think they would be the hands that control the spigot of precious resources in an oil-driven world. We have better options, more productive options, that have much greater benefit to you and me, and most certainly to the Iraqis.

There's a long road ahead in Iraq, that's to be sure. In the end, it will serve to define us and our intentions to the world at large. Any gain from some sort of aggressive "victory" in that shell-shocked land would be enjoyed by no more than a fortunate few. It would be a whole lot better for most of us if we started facing up to this, like adults, and began to behave accordingly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 PM on 03/23/2008

Broken, let halliburton and bush pay for making it right not the american people, let Cheney who was rich off the war before it started. Remember my friends he was CEO of Halliburton and was selling stuff to Saddam just before he joined the GOP ticket. Let them make it right, tribunal of the highest order levies fines against all war profiteers and the decision makers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 PM on 03/23/2008

I agree 100% let ALL the repigcons that believe in this occupation pay for it and start the draft again, when lil Johnny neocon has to put on a uniform the repigs will end the occupation !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 03/23/2008

You forgot to mention the oil companies paying for the illegal war and occupation. Why else do you think it was initiated?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 03/23/2008

Not surprised about this... He is a Sicko!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 PM on 03/23/2008

THATS JUST WHAT WE NEED, AN OLD WAR-MONGER STIFF IN THE WHITE HOUSE WHO DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE ECONOMY.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 PM on 03/23/2008

Even McCain's view of geo-politics seems vested in the 19th Century, i.e., the "Great Game." He might have been qualified once to fly an aircraft, but he will continue to fly the ECONOMY of the U.S. into the ground!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 PM on 03/23/2008

Even the casual observer knows this war is not winnable. All the flag waving and appeals to patriotism will not change the fundamental problem of this war. It is a war of ideology, not forces. Time table or not, there will be no waving of the white flags, no articles of surrender, none of what traditionally signifies defeat for one and victory for the other. Perhaps the Iraqis will cobble together something vaguely resembling a democracy and we can then agree they've done enough for most of our troops to come home. With the proper spin we'll be able to put a plus in the victory column. But many of us will continue to be uneasy about our reasons for going to war in the first place and what ultimately was achieved. Even with a democratic Iraqi government in place, it is unlikely America will be safer from terrorists. McCain's comments suggest he will bring the heart of a warrior to the White House, but not the acumen required in a post-Vietnam, post-Cold War world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 03/23/2008

iF the war ain't winnable then it ain't loseable either genius.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 PM on 03/23/2008

Ugg the idea that McCain may win the white house is just frightening to me. Imo he is no W Bush he is WORSE.

Carol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 03/23/2008

im glad the huffington post crowd is inept when it comes to winning general elections otherwise this nation would rapidly descend into hell because of a lack of leadership. i find it amusing that nancy pelosi can stick her neck out in support of the trendy, liberal cause of freedom in Tibet but wearing buttons and bumper stickers in berkley california will not free anyone. but of course, when it comes to supporting the iraqi people in their struggle against extremism, she is nowhere to be found because unfortunately such fundamental change is not without its costs. Those costs, of course, are nothing she or the left can stomach and as a result, we risk allowing iraq to lapse into another fundamentalist repressive regime should we pick up and leave.

i was completely against the war, we had no basis for starting the war, and there was no coherent evidence linking Iraq to illicit weapons or al qaeda. that being said, we made a mistake, and as adults, have to accept the consequences of our mistake as we owe it to the iraqi people, the rest of the world, as well as our soldiers who have lost their lives to at least remain committed to the idea of a free and stable iraq when the improving situation on the ground suggests progress is being made.

thank you senator mccain for having some backbone and not making policy judgments based on whichever way the political wind blows.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:43 PM on 03/23/2008
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