The Bear Stearns headquarters, center, and the JP Morgan headquarters, right, are shown on Monday, March 24, 2008 in New York. JPMorgan Chase & Co. increased it offer Monday for Bear Stears Cos. to $10 per share. (AP Photo/Mark Lennihan)

JPMorgan Raises Bear Purchase Price

JOE BEL BRUNO | March 24, 2008 05:34 PM EST | AP

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NEW YORK — JPMorgan Chase & Co.'s higher offer for Bear Stearns on Monday gave the investment bank control of nearly 40 percent of its ailing rival, blunting the threat that angry shareholders could scuttle the deal.

The $2.4 billion lifeline to rescue the investment house stands a strong chance of success _ assuaging investors unhappy with a $2 per share offer by upping it to $10 apiece. JPMorgan has faced an outcry among Bear Stearns shareholders about the lowball offer, and faced the possibility that rival deals would begin to surface.

Most analysts said a higher bid was unlikely, but some bondholders have reportedly been buying the stock in order to ensure their right to vote for a deal and prevent a bankruptcy that would wipe them out. Bear Stearns' shares _ which hit $160 last year and still traded near $80 earlier in the month _ nearly doubled to $11.25 on Monday.

However, for a company whose market value went from $8.3 billion to about $1 billion in a little more than a week, the revised deal was still not the outcome investors hoped for. It also didn't help out the 14,000 employees _ one-third owners in Bear Stearns _ who have seen the value of their stock holdings plummet and still face the potential of massive layoffs.

"Whether you got $2 or you got $10 was the difference between nothing and nothing," said John Buckingham, chief executive of Al Frank Asset Management, which held shares of Bear Stearns. "For an employee whose retirement was 98 percent wiped out, they had nothing to lose hoping to get more money out of bankruptcy _ and that behooved JPMorgan to raise the price."

There has been outrage since the Federal Reserve tapped JPMorgan to rescue the 85-year-old investment bank in a deal some feel was hastily arranged. The buyout was put together over a weekend, and within a few days JPMorgan Chief Executive Jamie Dimon was trying to rally Bear Stearns executives to his side.

In exchange for the higher-priced offer, Bear Stearns agreed to sell 95 million newly issued shares to JPMorgan. That gave JPMorgan a 39.5 percent stake, providing an almost certain majority in any shareholder vote.

JPMorgan, the nation's third-largest commercial bank, also renegotiated the Federal Reserve's role in the offer. The central bank originally agreed to guarantee $30 billion of Bear Stearns assets, including risky mortgage-backed securities. JPMorgan said it will now take on the first $1 billion of losses, while the Fed backs the rest.

Dimon, who needs only another 10.5 percent of shareholders to approve the takeover, appears to have outflanked any other deals. The agreement, filed with regulators last week, prohibits Bear Stearns employees or directors from soliciting any alternative transactions.

"We believe the amended terms are fair to all sides and reflect the value and risks of the Bear Stearns franchise," Dimon said in a statement.

Investors agreed with his tactics, sending JPMorgan shares up 58 cents to $45.55.

Bear Stearns shareholders, meanwhile, are expected to vote on the deal within the next few months.

The Fed, along with the Treasury Department, has drawn criticism for bailing out a Wall Street investment bank that many feel have been reckless amid the credit crisis. The higher price for Bear Stearns could be uncomfortable for Fed officials and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, who played a key role in the rescue effort. The New York Fed declined to comment.

Last week, Paulson publicly defended the Fed's actions, noting that shareholders were nearly wiped out at the original $2 per share price and argued that such losses would discourage other companies from counting on government help in the future.

Treasury spokeswoman Jennifer Zuccarelli said in an e-mail that "an orderly transition of Bear Stearns is in the best interest of our financial markets. The updated arrangements between Bear Stearns, JPMorgan and the Federal Reserve are consistent with that goal."

JPMorgan's higher offer _ the initial price was $236 million _ comes at a jittery time for Washington and Wall Street alike. A total collapse of Bear Stearns would have rippled through the economy, locking up credit even tighter and torpedoing global stock markets.

The housing collapse and credit crunch spurred record-high home foreclosures and led financial companies to rack up multibillion losses from complex mortgage investments that turned sour. As credit problems spread, financial institutions became increasingly wary of lending, causing businesses and consumers to hunker down.

Bear's financial troubles began in July, when two hedge funds it managed nearly collapsed from big positions in securities tied to subprime mortgages. The investment house had to bail out the funds and take possession of many of their instruments.

The revised bid dented hopes by retail investors for another offer that would value the company more fairly. There have been reports that billionaire financier Joseph Lewis, one of Bear Stearns' biggest shareholders, and Chairman and former CEO James Cayne would team up for a rival bid.

Lewis spokesman Doug McMahon didn't return a call Monday seeking comment. A spokesman for Bear Stearns also did not return calls.

The renegotiated agreement does not eliminate the hurdles to the deal, which is still the target of shareholder lawsuits.

Marian Rosner, a senior partner at Wolf Popper LLP, whose firm was one of many that filed class action lawsuits against Bear Stearns on behalf of employees, said Monday that "selling for $2 or $10 doesn't really make a difference."

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AP Business Writers Madlen Read and Stephen Bernard contributed to this report.


 
 

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It's amazing what thirty billion taxpayer dollars can accomplish. J.P. Morgan Chase is surely generous with our money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 PM on 03/24/2008

And that is the part of the story no one is looking at. We, the taxpayers, are paying the 29B through the Federal Reserve with no more approval than a signing by Bush. Meanwhile, Hillary is pillaried for suggesting we have a similiar amount to help bail out some homeowners. And she would have to get congress - you know that crowd of idiots - to sign up to it and then Bush would likely veto it. Guess whose base the Bear Bailout is supporting?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 PM on 03/24/2008

Based on the April, 2007 proxy; the CEO walks away with $64 million because the US Government is guaranteeing $30 billion in credit swap derivatives. Officers and Directors walk away with a total of $93 million. These sums do NOT include any golden parachute funds that they will receive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 PM on 03/24/2008

All at the generosity of the Taxpayers through your elected official George W Bush. Think he would bail out a homeowner?? Nah!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 PM on 03/24/2008

If you're not an insider and you play the stock market, you're a sucker

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 PM on 03/24/2008

Very true nicho.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 PM on 03/24/2008

Very true nicho, very true...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 PM on 03/24/2008

The days of being able to obtain accurate information about a company or stock are over since the New Deal was hacked up in the 1990s. And add the fact that many people have their retirements attached to the stock market with little they can do about it short of quiting their present job, paints a picture that isn't nice. Note: my apologies for the double post and one paragraph, but half of those two posts were deleted and I had no idea if they made through in the first place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 AM on 03/25/2008

Last Sunday, JPM said it was buying BS for $2 a share. I thought it was strange that on Monday, BS shares were selling for $4-5 apiece.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 03/24/2008

Yeah someone knew the fix was in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 PM on 03/24/2008

This news comes as it were after the rumour that the deal had been shopped to AXA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 03/24/2008

Officers and directors (insiders) of BS walk away with $93 million (based on holdings as of April, 2007). Not bad for running a company into insolvency.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 03/24/2008

MY DEEP APOLOGIES FOR THE MULTIPLE POST ... MY SCREEN WAS DROPPING THE COMMENT ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 PM on 03/24/2008

An indication of the issues with the moderation system -;)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 03/24/2008

Ahhh heck. You 'only' posted the same lengthy post 4 times. Not a problem. Mistakes happen to the best of us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:51 PM on 03/24/2008

Time to fire the privately owned and operated Federal Reserve. Past Time !


A Brief History of the Privately owned and operated Federal Reserve ...And what has happened since the privately owned and operated Federal reserve was established in 1913 ?


-1914 - 1920 easy money inflation, WWI debt ... 1921 Severe Crash


-1922 -1929 leveraged easy money inflation ........... Great Depression 1929-1940 .... 1933 Gold bullion confiscated ...


- Massive borrowing for war, WWII and Korea - Fed appeased 1940-1962


- 1963-1970 War debt paid, Fed not happy ... Kennedy tries Silver ... Viet Nam ramps up government spending ...


- 1971-1979 Nixon goes off gold, Viet Nam winds down ...The Fed allows inflaion to reach 20%


- 1980 - 1986 Volcker raises interest rates to 20% to stem the tide of the previous Fed incompetence. Economy dives ... Reagan defense spending goes crazy,, biggest non war deficits ever.


- 1987 Greenspan causes stock market drop and lays seeds for the S&L Crisis and the bond crisis.


- 1989-1991 S&L and bond market crisis due to deregulation ...Massive Governnment bailout...


- 1991 - 1997 further deregulation even though Congress has asked the Fed, Greenspan to regulate loan underwriting ... Greenspan does nothing begins inflating again ...


- 1998 - 1999 LTCM crisis due to leverage and derivatives leads to Asian crisis and Russian default ... The Fed inflates more, deregulates more, ,stocks go hyper bolic.


- 2000-2003 Stock Market Crash, more Fed deregulation, Fed endorses tax cuts, lowers interest rates to 1%. Iraq War funding and Tax Cuts send budget debt and national debt hyperbolic.


- 2004-2006 Fed endorses exotic loans, refuses to regulate loan underwriting ... Derivatives markets become trillion dollar markets for the banks , the Fed declines to regulate or even offer a framework for the derivatives market ... Huge bubbles form ....


- 2007 Real Estate crash begins, Fed says everything is fine ....


- 2008 The bailout begins, hundreds of billions of tax payer dollars, loaned to first member banks then expanded illegally to nonmember broker dealers.


Thomas Jefferson -


"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 03/24/2008

Time to fire the privately owned and operated Federal Reserve. Past Time !


A Brief History of the Privately owned and operated Federal Reserve ...And what has happened since the privately owned and operated Federal reserve was established in 1913 ?


-1914 - 1920 easy money inflation, WWI debt ... 1921 Severe Crash


-1922 -1929 leveraged easy money inflation ........... Great Depression 1929-1940 .... 1933 Gold bullion confiscated ...


- Massive borrowing for war, WWII and Korea - Fed appeased 1940-1962


- 1963-1970 War debt paid, Fed not happy ... Kennedy tries Silver ... Viet Nam ramps up government spending ...


- 1971-1979 Nixon goes off gold, Viet Nam winds down ...The Fed allows inflaion to reach 20%


- 1980 - 1986 Volcker raises interest rates to 20% to stem the tide of the previous Fed incompetence. Economy dives ... Reagan defense spending goes crazy,, biggest non war deficits ever.


- 1987 Greenspan causes stock market drop and lays seeds for the S&L Crisis and the bond crisis.


- 1989-1991 S&L and bond market crisis due to deregulation ...Massive Governnment bailout...


- 1991 - 1997 further deregulation even though Congress has asked the Fed, Greenspan to regulate loan underwriting ... Greenspan does nothing begins inflating again ...


- 1998 - 1999 LTCM crisis due to leverage and derivatives leads to Asian crisis and Russian default ... The Fed inflates more, deregulates more, ,stocks go hyper bolic.


- 2000-2003 Stock Market Crash, more Fed deregulation, Fed endorses tax cuts, lowers interest rates to 1%. Iraq War funding and Tax Cuts send budget debt and national debt hyperbolic.


- 2004-2006 Fed endorses exotic loans, refuses to regulate loan underwriting ... Derivatives markets become trillion dollar markets for the banks , the Fed declines to regulate or even offer a framework for the derivatives market ... Huge bubbles form ....


- 2007 Real Estate crash begins, Fed says everything is fine ....


- 2008 The bailout begins, hundreds of billions of tax payer dollars, loaned to first member banks then expanded illegally to nonmember broker dealers.


Thomas Jefferson -


"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 PM on 03/24/2008

Time to fire the privately owned and operated Federal Reserve. Past Time !


A Brief History of the Privately owned and operated Federal Reserve ...And what has happened since the privately owned and operated Federal reserve was established in 1913 ?


-1914 - 1920 easy money inflation, WWI debt ... 1921 Severe Crash


-1922 -1929 leveraged easy money inflation ........... Great Depression 1929-1940 .... 1933 Gold bullion confiscated ...


- Massive borrowing for war, WWII and Korea - Fed appeased 1940-1962


- 1963-1970 War debt paid, Fed not happy ... Kennedy tries Silver ... Viet Nam ramps up government spending ...


- 1971-1979 Nixon goes off gold, Viet Nam winds down ...The Fed allows inflaion to reach 20%


- 1980 - 1986 Volcker raises interest rates to 20% to stem the tide of the previous Fed incompetence. Economy dives ... Reagan defense spending goes crazy,, biggest non war deficits ever.


- 1987 Greenspan causes stock market drop and lays seeds for the S&L Crisis and the bond crisis.


- 1989-1991 S&L and bond market crisis due to deregulation ...Massive Governnment bailout...


- 1991 - 1997 further deregulation even though Congress has asked the Fed, Greenspan to regulate loan underwriting ... Greenspan does nothing begins inflating again ...


- 1998 - 1999 LTCM crisis due to leverage and derivatives leads to Asian crisis and Russian default ... The Fed inflates more, deregulates more, ,stocks go hyper bolic.


- 2000-2003 Stock Market Crash, more Fed deregulation, Fed endorses tax cuts, lowers interest rates to 1%. Iraq War funding and Tax Cuts send budget debt and national debt hyperbolic.


- 2004-2006 Fed endorses exotic loans, refuses to regulate loan underwriting ... Derivatives markets become trillion dollar markets for the banks , the Fed declines to regulate or even offer a framework for the derivatives market ... Huge bubbles form ....


- 2007 Real Estate crash begins, Fed says everything is fine ....


- 2008 The bailout begins, hundreds of billions of tax payer dollars, loaned to first member banks then expanded illegally to nonmember broker dealers.


Thomas Jefferson -


"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 03/24/2008

It is time to fire the privately owned and operated Federal Reserve. Past Time ...


A Brief History of the Privately owned and operated Federal Reserve ...And what has happened since the privately owned and operated Federal reserve was established in 1913 ?


-1914 - 1920 easy money inflation, WWI Borrowing ... 1921 Severe Crash


-1922 -1929 leveraged easy money inflation ........... Great Depression 1929-1940 .... 1933 Gold bullion confiscated ...


- Massive borrowing for war - WWII and Korea, Fed appeased 1940-1962


- 1963-1970 WWII, Korean War debt paid, Fed not happy ... Kennedy tries Silver ... Viet Nam ramps up government spending ...


- 1971-1979 Nixon goes off gold, Viet Nam winds down,The Fed allows inflaion to reach 20%...


- 1980 - 1986 Volcker raises interest rates to 20% to stem the tide of the previous Fed incompetence. Economy dives ... Reagan defense spending goes crazy,, biggest non war deficits ever, more debt ...


- 1987 Greenspan causes stock market drop and lays seeds for the S&L Crisis and the bond crisis.


- 1989-1991 S&L and bond market crisis due to deregulation ... Govt Bailout ...Billlions


- 1991 - 1997 further deregulation even though Congress has asked the Fed, Greenspan to regulate loan underwriting ... Greenspan does nothing begins inflating again ...


- 1998 - 1999 LTCM crisis due to leverage and derivatives leads to Asian crisis and Russian default ... The Fed inflates more, deregulates more, ,stocks go hyper bolic.


- 2000-2003 Stock Market Crash, more Fed deregulation, Fed endorses tax cuts, lowers interest rates to 1%. Iraq War funding and Tax Cuts send budget debt and national debt hyperbolic.


- 2004-2006 Fed lowers interest rates to 1%, endorses exotic loans, refuses to regulate loan underwriting ... Derivatives markets become trillion dollar markets for the banks , the Fed declines to regulate or even offer a framework for the derivatives market .


- 2007 Real Estate crash begins, Fed says everything is fine ....


Thomas Jefferson -


"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 03/24/2008

Many people following this story are investors, and consider themselves to be well informed on matters of finance.

Do you normally do your homework and research before investing?

Well just for fun, do some on JP Morgan. Learn some history while you are at it.

The Rothschilds based in England and much of Europe really did try to finance both sides of the US civil war, classic war profiteers.

Abe Lincoln really did get seriously pissed off at them, and threatened to start (responsibly) printing and backing his own money.

Abe Lincoln really did get assassinated soon after this threat.

The Rothschild family really did use JP Morgan as a front bank to expand their empire from Europe to the new world.

JP Morgan was instrumental in establishing the US Federal Reserve, an entirely corrupt institution.

JFK really did threaten to make drastic changes to the Fed Reserve.

Then he really did get assassinated.

Now we have a clear case of fraud by numerous banks, with Bear Stearns at the top of the list. Bankrupting thousands of hard working American families without consequence, and with no money to help the families.

And who shows up with more money than God to "help" clean up this mess?
JP Morgan, but they won't use their own money. So the Federal Reserve comes up with $200 billion for numerous bank bailouts that could have been used for any number of social programs.

Watch as Bear Stearns comes back to respectability and PROFITABILITY over the next several years, and JP Morgan the evil spawn of the Rothschilds gets richer and richer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 PM on 03/24/2008

Agreed. And what I love is how the Bear Sterns stock sold for $4.00-$6.00 per share after the bail out announcement, which made no sense, unless of course they had insider information that by Monday, the stock would net a guarantee of $10. Note the last paragraph of the article:
Bear shares had been much higher than its deal price last week in anticipation of a new buyout agreement. The stock surged on Monday, rising $7.23 to $13.24 after the new agreement was unveiled. JPMorgan shares also rose, adding $1.18, or 2.6 percent, to $47.15.

When we look back at how manipulating the market is how Rothchild amassed his wealth, one sees this kind of sh*t happens all the time. Would love to see bought at $4-6 and made a quick lump today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 03/24/2008

Someone needs to get the Fed to stay out of this - they don't have any right to be involved in lending money to investment banks or making taxpayers responsible for $30 billion in loans that we all KNOW will decrease in value. Lots of companies go bankrupt and people lose their savings - there isn't ANY proof that BS going bankrupt would ruin our economy.

Now that a Republican has admitted that he was the person who asked the Justice Department to investigate Spitzer, it seems even more obivous why the Republicans had to make sure he was out of office BEFORE Bernake and Paulson decided that taxpayers needs to save BS or the economy would be destroyed. Although senators might claim they're angry about it, they can't do much of anything - it takes years for them to pass any bills or legislation. But the governor of NY could have tried to stop it.

Why isn't the Fed also helping the employees at Sharper Image or all the other companies that went bankrupt this year?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 PM on 03/24/2008

I'm sure the shareholders are just thrilled.................................??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 PM on 03/24/2008

Guess we should all keep sleeping comfortably, knowing the Fed in collusion with the US Treasury is watchful and careful enough to stay busy privatizing personal wealth and savings of American citizens as well as the tax revenues withheld on their meager wages so that greedy and incompetent bankers won't suffer the same hardships as ordinary citizens do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 03/24/2008

WTF?
Let me get this straight... If the government decides to bail out my bankrupt - run into the ground - worthless company, and I don't like the price they offer, (after the fact mind you)... I can just whine about it and they will give me FIVE TIMES AS MUCH for my still worthless company?
Hey I think we need some adult supervision here - damn quick, too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 PM on 03/24/2008

No, you silly goose, not YOUR company. Only companies that can ply the administration with many millions can play.

So, if your company does indeed go bankrupt, then your goose will be cooked, because no one on Wall Street will rise to help poor YOU.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 PM on 03/24/2008

This is why they get special treatment:

The Dirty Dozen

Trilateral-Commission.net
SecretSocieties.net
CouncilOnForeignRelations.net
eWTO.net
Federal-Reserve.net
BilderbergGroup.net
CarlyleGroup.net
OilCompanies.net
Republicrat.net
Corpocracy.net
Henry-Kissinger.com
Alan-Greenspan.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 03/24/2008

Does no one see the similarities between this and the handling of the Iraq war?

The complete and utter incompetence on the part of Halliburton, JPM and Bear Stearns?

The secrecy and opaqueness?

The perfidy?

And at the end of the day, the Federal Government waiting with check book in hand, ready to indemnify all, just so long as they are big business interests?

Could any other outcome be expected with this administration?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 03/24/2008

It won't be long before everyone realizes that deficit spending is what has created this inflation and weak $$. Then the feds won't be so eager to bail companies out. But they won't be eager to buoy up our economy with federal jobs, business tax incentives or tax cuts either.
Hopefully Washington will wake out of it's slumber before the Asians refuse to buy another dollar.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 03/24/2008

Glad I wasn't holding on to any of that stock. The talking heads on CNBC only a weeks before the buyout were saying, "Hang on to it!" Which is another reason I don't let anyone else manage my money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 03/24/2008

Guess, I hadn't got that far yet. The media section here fingers CNBC's Jim Cramer. Check my profile. I don't thing I have ever called anyone a name here, until now, "knucklehead."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 AM on 03/24/2008

That is still a very good deal considering how much money the taxpayer put into it. Nice scam. Have Georges buddy at the fed throw tens of billions into a company, then some of his republican buddies at another company buy it for pennies on the dollar and meanwhile his buddies at the failed company walk away with their 100 million dollar bonuses. Why is it George can get taxpayers to build him a stadium so he can sell his team, he can get taxpayers to bail out a failure company, and conservotards still think he is on the side of the taxpayer?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 AM on 03/24/2008

"JPMorgan will bear the first $1 billion of any losses linked to Bear Stearns assets being financed, while the central bank will put up the remaining $29 billion."

I still want to know why I, as a taxpayer in this country, should be expected to potentially underwrite $29 billion in losses to a private company that is purchasing another private company?

Bear Stearns and JPMorgan never trickled down any of their gains to me over the last several years. Why should I help underwrite their potential losses? I mean - isn't business supposed to 'flourish' under deregulated capitalism?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 03/24/2008

But they could trickle down a lot of pain to you if they went bankrupt.
Barney Frank said it best; "these companies are holding America hostage, and we can pay the ransom, or see how much damage gets done.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 03/24/2008

But do we have to pay millions in severance to the people who caused it and facilitated it? Do we do anything for homeowners?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 PM on 03/24/2008